Comments on: These Mets Won’t Get It Done

By: Mr. Bill

Mr. Bill — Wed, 18 Jul 2012 03:13:06 +0000

Hey Alex, it’s been a long time and these mets are exactly the same as the mets back in metsblog times jajaja

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 21:52:27 +0000

Thank you all for your input. I think I would still do it. Last year he hit .271 with 72 runs scored and 22 SB’s. This year he can’t get into lineup because of two guys named Trout and Trumble.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:33:41 +0000

FYI Robert don’t take what I said there personally…It’s meant for the masses not meant for you specifically.

I’m just tired of the hypochondriac Bi-Polar reactions that change from series to series regarding these Mets.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:31:21 +0000

Everyone repeat after me….

I AM IN CONTROL OF MY EMOTIONS!
I AM IN CONTROL OF MY EMOTIONS!
I AM IN CONTROL OF MY EMOTIONS!
I AM IN CONTROL OF MY EMOTIONS!
I AM IN CONTROL OF MY EMOTIONS!

They take two out of three or even sweep the Nats you’ll all be back to talking about who to get in trade for Harvey and Wheeler because we are just that close to winning something and the future be damned!

They are in this race until they are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs!
Anyone who says otherwise is just looking for an excuse to give up and go back to the old 3 or 4 year rebuild plan they all thought was so smart and genius back when we should have been making deals to ensure this team that was poised to be competitive could have went and got the help to avoid these feelings your having right now!

And as I said around this time last year…
The last thing I want to do is take the advice of a defeatist Quitter!

By: Ceetar

Ceetar — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 17:49:39 +0000

trading a good player for a bad one because he’s cheaper? bleh. fielding percentage is a very very very poor way to measure defense anyway (And I know Pete has been somewhat of an UZR darling too)

but he can’t hit. If you’re really determined to get Jordany out there, the Mets are better with him in center and Murphy at second than Bourjos and Valdespin at second.

By: NJstuckinTX

NJstuckinTX — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:57:54 +0000

Ceet, Bourjos has the same if not slightly better fielding percentage than Torres, is only 25, only makes under half a million, and is controllable up to 2017. If you could get him for a Murph + 1-2 others (no clue what it would actually take), I can’t see where that would be a bad thing at all.

By: USMF

USMF — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:43:03 +0000

I don’t understand the “this good this quickly” statement. It’s not like this team is doing much better than what they did at this point last year. The only reason the Mets are in better shape this year is because of the extra Wild Card and the fact the the Madoff thing is settled.

The reason why they finished with a bad record is because Sandy trading away Beltran and K-Rod because he needed to cut costs. But if those moves weren’t made, the team could have finished a few games over five hundred, which is what they are projecting to finish this year.

Yeah, we feel better because they started off hot instead of really bad and Wright, Dickey and Santana have done great…while last year it was Reyes and Beltran doing great and we know that both players were on their way out the door.

The reason not to feel optimistic this year is because: It’ll be very hard if not impossible for Santana, RAD and Wright to keep up playing they way they have…plus the players who have struggle have not shown signs of have a big 2nd half and there is nothing that makes me believe that Alderson is going to add a difference maker.

By: Ceetar

Ceetar — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:34:02 +0000

eww. Peter Bourjos sucks. Torres can suck and play good defense without losing anything.

And Valdespin has a lot of growing yet to do before he can be an everyday player, never mind an infielder where he makes me nervous defensively.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:33:28 +0000

Also, I don’t see Murphy as much of a relief pitcher.

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:20:05 +0000

I’d probably do that in a heartbeat.

The problem is, why would the Angels do it?

Where does Murphy play for them?

Kendrick plays 2B, Morales or Pujols are your DH…

By: NJstuckinTX

NJstuckinTX — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:18:08 +0000

Per MLBTR, “The Angels have told some teams that Peter Bourjos is unavailable and offered the outfielder to other teams for relief help, Danny Knobler of CBSSports.com reports (on Twitter). The fleet-footed 25-year-old has a .237/.293/.348 batting line and won’t be arbitration eligible until after the 2013 season.”

I’m not thinking Murph for Bourjos gets it done. I do like Bourjos, but the package would need to be much more attractive than that.

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:14:29 +0000

Murphy to Angels for Peter Bourjos is my choice. We get a CF with Gold Glove potential and put Valdespin at 2nd. Angels use Murphy at 3rd or DH

By: trs86

trs86 — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 16:03:39 +0000

Again, have you seen Ramirez’s numbers since his DL stint? He already has his total ERA under 4.00 and has given up a BA under .200.

By: stick

stick — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 15:11:05 +0000

no, he should make some moves for that spark (keeping team afloat), as long as they are primarily salary dumps and/or clearing out the backlog of guys they won’t be able to keep on the 40 man anyway.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:50:28 +0000

Ummm, Let’s Go METS!????? Amazing, i Predicted this team to lose 93 games… Yet i got more optimism than a lot of the people in this blog…

By: oleosmirf

oleosmirf — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:49:21 +0000

I still think the Mets should look to add to their bullpen and buy an expiring contract like K-Rod, regardless just as a measure of good faith, while also removing our worst reliever.

I also think they should look to trade Ramirez for a similar guy that is having a down year and hope that a change of scenery helps. pitchers switching from the AL to NL has often shown to be very effective…

By: oleosmirf

oleosmirf — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:45:55 +0000

I really hope Sandy looks at the team and makes a smart trade for the future. Between Valdespin, Kirk, Murphy, Duda, Ike, Havens, Den Dekker you have a disproportionate amount of LH hitters.

Take for example Kirk and Havens/Murphy and package them for a prospect in the high minors who is (1) athletic (2) young and (3) ready to make his MLB debut within a year. I don’t have any particular player in mind, nor am I talking about a big time prospect, but a RH hitting OF in AA/AAA on the cusp of making his MLB debut that you can add to the core here.

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:45:10 +0000

I agree.

This team lives or dies with the following players:
Dickey, Santana, Wright, Davis, Bullpen.

If those 5 guys fail, you aren’t replacing them…you can get another bullpen arm sure, but if the rest flop then it doesn’t matter.

By: trs86

trs86 — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:38:48 +0000

Yup, and there is not a trade Sandy can make that will make a damn bit of difference if that doesn’t happen. So if the Mets players want help they need to push through this and force a decision. If not then making some faulty panic move could be very costly.

By: srt

srt — Tue, 17 Jul 2012 14:32:29 +0000

*with Gee second