Terry Collins: If The People Who See Harvey Say He’s Ready, Bring Him Up

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• Alex68 July 13, 2012 at 10:59 am

  Joe D, don’t you know? Hold up on Harvey!! Lol…

  Bring up this kid, this Front office and its leader are very futile at best at making deals etc, we all know they’ll probably bring up crap to help the team as they’ve done in 2 consecutives offseason, instead of bringing batista and that other bum hefner bring up this kid.
  If he does struggle, then we are in the same place we were had we brought up Hefner or batista,worst case we send him down, fix the problem and let him fogure out, if he does good, he may help us form a very good rotation with Dikey, Santana and Niese the rest of the way.
  There’s no clear cut juggernaut offensive teams in the NL so now it’s the time!
  • jessep July 13, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Alex, I’d like to teach you a little lesson that most people do in fact learn between the ages of say 5-8 years old.

    When you wish to be left alone such as you mentioned in the shoutbox yesterday at 12:56 pm “alex68 Please ignore me ok…”

    You cannot then turn around and talk about that person in any way shape or form if you wish to be left alone.

    If you do not want me to respond to the things you say, then either a) don’t say them or b) don’t say them about me and then act as though you wish to just be left alone.

    It doesn’t work both ways.

    Also, do not comment about what people write if you have not read it yourself. This is a formula that enables ignorance at its best. If you’d like to actually READ what I wrote, then please feel free to comment. However, if you are just going to type things about my posts with no merit to it… you better be ready for a response from me.
    • BadBadLeroyBrown July 13, 2012 at 11:53 am

      Someone is Trolling!
    • Amazin July 13, 2012 at 11:56 am

      funny seeing a total fraud ,like you jessup berating someone for their post. You jessup, the person who writes incessantly after always starting your pathetic novellas with the pathetic “I don’y know anything” line. Well, you are right about one thing Jessup.. You know nothing. NOTHING.. And since you know nothing you aren’t one to berate Alex68 for his [posts. At least he knows something.
      • jessep July 13, 2012 at 2:42 pm

        thanks for the reply Amazin. One day you’ll need to fill me in on what I actually said to turn you so sour toward me. I’ve yet to have an interaction with you that would lead me to understand why you constantly attack me after somebody else does.

        The fact remains, I was asked to ignore Alex and less than 24 hours later he’s using a blog I wrote to mock me and then cannot have the backbone to admit he used THE EXACT QUOTE as a shot at me.

        You can defend that all you want, but all it proves is there is an agenda on your end.

        I don’t know you, I don’t hold anything you say against you but I haven’t seen much of anything except personal attacks toward me and others which make me question why you’re here.
    • Alex68 July 13, 2012 at 12:15 pm

      I Am glad peopel are starting to see you for the phony you are..
      • Donal July 13, 2012 at 2:12 pm

        You mean the same handful of people.
  • Alex68 July 13, 2012 at 11:56 am

    Do yourself a favor Jessep, first of all, don’t think too highly of yourself, usually people that accomplish something in life do.
    Second of all, when did i even mention your name!?? you’re a pathetic little weasel who is somehow looking for attention ok, don’t try to bait me as you often do with others, that is the main reason some of us get warnings etc, i do ignore you and your post, i don’t comment on your crap so please make sure you refer to post on anything i say, all i said was hold on on harvey, do you have copyrights to that word or something? again, i do not need to read your crap to know it is ok
• oleosmirf July 13, 2012 at 11:02 am

  The Mets don’t need a 5th SP until the 21st so that should give Harvey 3 more starts in AAA before Batista would be scheduled to make his 2nd start. How both parties do in those starts should dictate what the Mets do.

  If Harvey does well and Batista does not, then call him up, if they both do poorly call up Hefner, if they both do well keep using Batista until he does poorly and if Batista does well and Harvey does not, then keep going with him…
• Seligman July 13, 2012 at 11:02 am

  Go for it. We bought up Ruben Tejada much to early and he has helped the team from day one. Valdespin might be early but he’s here to stay. Ike Davis at the time was brought up early and led the team in HR and RBI in 2010. If the player is as good as advertised he will help the team, if he’s not, we’ll know soon enough and we can go after Cole Hamels after the season.
  • Liz July 13, 2012 at 11:08 am

    Cole Hamels?? Ewwww, I hate that guy. Are you crazy!
    • trs86 July 13, 2012 at 11:09 am

      He is heading for the cash and the West Coast so no danger.
• Mr North Jersey July 13, 2012 at 11:13 am

  A couple of days ago you said Matt Harvey still needed “more seasoning” and that if he got smacked around you was going to tell everyone “I told you so”. Today “it’s as good a time as any” to call him up. Is this a symptom of Harvey Hysteria?

  I continue to believe the biggest positive for calling him up was Backman’s comments regarding him. If internally the coaches feel he ready then bring him up especially if it’s not a short term basis.
  • Joe D July 13, 2012 at 11:22 am

    Oh absolutely, I’m not only a part of the hysteria now, I’m leading the charge. lol
    • srt July 13, 2012 at 11:34 am

      LOL….you’re not the only one. Something tells me if Terry had his way, he’d be coming up next week.

      Terry Collins says Mets might call up Matt Harvey for Wednesday start

      http://mobile.newsday.com/inf/infomo;JSESSIONID=AF84CD9E785665AFC3C7.3247?site=newsday&view=sports_item&feed:a=newsday_5min&feed:c=sports&feed:i=1.3834981&nopaging=1
• Metsie July 13, 2012 at 11:30 am

  Ok new rule here…
  Anytime Collins says what is the plan or comments on a player playing days before he will actually play, know that what he really means is that guy won’t be playing!

  I have to wonder (as this has happened almost everytime there is a need for roster movement) if this “who’s on first i don’t know, no he’s playing 3rd base” routine is really Terry just thinking out loud and being flippant? Or if this is due to the fact we seem to have a Front Office by Committtee who seem to make a decision that changes daily until there is no more time to change your mind and they just go with whoever was last picked to play that game!

  This is not the first time it has happened….
  Torres coming back from injury, Bay being annouced as starter despite the fact he isn’t even with the team yet. Send Ike Down, no Leave him Up, Mejia is a pen arm but maybe he’s a starter etc…etc…

  There sure does appear to be a lot indecision going around upstairs at the mets and I wonder if that same indecision is why they have yet to make a single trade yet despite having a few guys on the roster who are out of options and hurting out Roster flexability.

  They need to start getting on the same page here or we will be screwed!
• jerseymet July 13, 2012 at 11:32 am

  Bring up Harvey and Hefner. Let’s use a 6 man rotation durring the dog days of summer. We’ll need deep outings since our bullpen is so weak. If H n H don’t work out…try something else. Insanity is using the bullpen like we did in April and May.
  • trs86 July 13, 2012 at 11:35 am

    6.89 ERA as a starter… No Heffy please.
    • oleosmirf July 13, 2012 at 11:48 am

      I think you can write off the bad start where he gave up all those runs after the rain delay. He did fine in the other ones.

      He’s not the solution, but he’s probably better than Batista who is nothing more than a mop-up guy with a rubber arm at this point
      • Metsie July 13, 2012 at 12:07 pm

        Even if you throw that start out his average ERA is somewhere around 5.50+

        Now granted a lot of those appearances are as a reliever not a starter but if you seperate out just the starts he still is above 5.2 in ERA.
        • oleosmirf July 13, 2012 at 12:38 pm

          actually it would be 4.24
          • jerseymet July 13, 2012 at 5:13 pm

            I want Hefner’s bat. LOL
• Met Maniac July 13, 2012 at 11:48 am

  Why is Collins saying all this stuff? This is not his decision to make. Where is the GM and what does he have to say about all of this? I just dont see other managers talking about player promotions the way Collins does. It’s not his damn job. Let him figure out what to do with the team and roster he has.
  • oleosmirf July 13, 2012 at 11:51 am

    how many other teams do you follow on a daily basis? Can’t compare to the Yankees since their day-to-day moves are meaningless since they will be in the playoffs every single year regardless of what happens…
  • Amazin July 13, 2012 at 11:59 am

    Collins is saying it because he knows that his GM is incompetant. For the kool aide drinkers, too bad. Even the manager knows his boss is over the hill. maybe early stage alzheimers. Maybe he only found success due to Canseco getting his A’s to al ljuyice up.
    • Alex68 July 13, 2012 at 12:26 pm

      Collins is saying it because he knows that his GM is incompetant. For the kool aide drinkers, too bad. Even the manager knows his boss is over the hill”

      Amazin, Don’t tell that to the people who somehow this GM has done a good job… I mean, two offseason and nothing to show for.. Looking for every little thing that happens to celebrate the pathetic effort from the GM
    • oleosmirf July 13, 2012 at 12:41 pm

      One of the most ridiculous things I’ve heard.

      How can you spin the comment he made that way? All Terry is saying is he wants the best guy he can get. Isn’t that what any manager would say?

      And i love how you will spin what I said to mean that I love Sandy too…
      • Even Flow July 13, 2012 at 2:16 pm

        Welcome to the wonderful world of MMO. Some people here will always twist things around here to make it appear that way…unfortunately, it’s because they have nothing between the ears.
      • Alex68 July 13, 2012 at 2:32 pm

        Sigh… the Stalking continues!!!
        • Even Flow July 13, 2012 at 3:42 pm

          Piss off, troll. You’re not that special.
  • Metsie July 13, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    He’s saying exactly what the FO is telling him is the plan and is getting tripped up because they can’t decide on anything and vascilate over every move!

    You can do that in a chess game but not as the GM of a baseball team.
    The game will just pass you by if you do!

    This is what happens when you have too many GM cooks trying to make the soup!
    Everyone thought having three possible GM talents was a good thing….And what has it got us?
    Lack of Direction or Conviction!
  • srt July 13, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    Because he’s being asked a dozen times a day maybe?

    It is the FO’s call, as you said.
    And it seems to me the reason some of these answers are all over the place is because they just don’t know at the moment. They didn’t count on losing Gee, they probably looked at Harvey coming up in Sep maybe for a few starts.

    Didn’t work out that way so now they’ve got some decisions to make.
    I guess we’ll know when they finally make those decisions.
• PaulT July 13, 2012 at 1:42 pm

  This manager is a joke. I read another article that says its not a “open tryout” up there right now as they’re in the race. On the flip side they also have been saying they want edgin and mejia up there to gauge where they are at before the deadline. A open tryout is exactly what they’re doing up there. If youneed to know how guys are doing you can read reports from Wally and check their stats from the 3 months of playing games. Not to mention terry Collins the day before the break said edgin and mejia are up and down and need to be more consistent before being there then over the break they call up edgin??? Did he show consistency while on the all-break in the backyard at his house??? I don’t see how you can make these comments and be taking serious as a person who has a idea of what your doing. By what terry said today I expect Harvey to make his next start against Washington. If he said he was ready I’d be concerned about them waiting until September
  • oleosmirf July 13, 2012 at 1:52 pm

    All he is saying is he wants the person most likely to help the team win. That’s it…
    • Metsie July 13, 2012 at 2:36 pm

      And what was he saying when Bautista was the guy who was going to start?

      You can’t minimize what he’s saying now when what he said is a flip flop from 4 days ago!
      Over the course of one All Star Break we went from Bautista to Harvey and we haven’t even played the first game yet?

      Either terry screwed up or was told the wrong plan and that means the FO flip flopped and can’t decide which says to me Hefner or Schwinden gets the start before the week is out because thats the only name they haven’t mentioned yet!
• stick July 13, 2012 at 3:10 pm

  as soon as Gee had to get season ending surgery, they situation changed, and that had a major impact on what decision you would make (as opposed to if he was going to miss 2-3 weeks).

  And adjusting your position as the situation changes is common sense, not “flip flopping”.
  • Metsie July 13, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    SO they didn’t flip flop on Harvey being ready over the course of 4 days where no games were played, I don’t even think they played any in the Minors either they too were on thier all star break!