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2012
Ike Blasts Three Homers In Mets’ 6-3 Loss To Diamondbacks
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Aside from Ike Davis, the Mets offense fired blanks on Saturday night as the D’Backs handed them a 6-3 loss.
Chris Young struggled again and allowed six runs on seven hits and two walks in four innings to raise his earned run average rise to 4.58 for the season. The six runs were the most Young has allowed in a game in more than three years.
The bullpen came up big with Ramon Ramirez tossing two scoreless, Manny Acosta 11 scoreless, and rookie Josh Edgin faced two batters and struck both of them out.
Ike Davis was the one singular sensation for the Mets in this game going 4-for-4 with three home runs and a single. Ike becomes the ninth player in Mets history to hit three home runs in a single game. Since June 12, Davis has 15 homers, one behind Jason Kubel who leads the majors with 16 in that span. Safe to say Ike is back… I think…
Jason Bay finished 0-for-4 with two strikeouts and is now 0-for-19 in his last six games. He also got another ringing endorsement from Terry Collins. His batting average is now down to .164. Kirk Nieuwenhuis was 0-for-4 with three strikeouts, extending his own slump to 0-for-11.
In Sunday’s finale R.A. Dickey (13-2, 2.97 ERA) will oppose Joe Saunders (5-6, 3.51) , game time is at 4:10 PM.
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Oh these games have just been painful. Tonight Young can only go 4 innings and gives up 6 runs. Failing to give a struggling offense a chance and forces the team to go to the pen after 4 innings.
Now with Wright in the midst of a slump Ike Davis at least has continued to get his hits with an impressive Homerun show tonight (nice job Ike) but Bay and Kirk are just struggling so bad right now. That 1 inning when the Mets had 1st and 2nd with no outs and Murphy hit that shot deep to straight away center and it was caught for the 1st out with Bay and Kirk to follow. It was hard not to expect that the inning would end right there.
It’s not for a lack of effort. They fight every inning but they just can’t get over the hump like they did during the 1st half of the season.
On a positive note I don’t think I can ever get tired of watching the moon shots Ike hits for HR’s. Freaking awesome. Hate to say it but Putz’s Splitter was just disgusting. Props to Tejada just to get a single and get on base in that 9th.
Props to the pen for at least keeping it within a swing of the bat to tie it then later to take the lead.
Dickey is on the hill as the Mets look to at least split this 4 game series which right now would be a huge step in my opinion.
LGM!
I agree it gets hard to watch…….It’s so painful to have a guy hit 3 home runs in a game and only have 3 RBI’s to show for it…….Hopefully Dickey can shine tomorrow and we can sneak out of hear with a split…….SF is having their own problems so maybe we can steal a couple their also………They need to sit Bay…….guy is killing us…….Lets Go Mets…..
I cannot understand why Bay was brought up in the first place when he didn’t prove he could even hit low level minor league pitching. Kirk is a mess at the plate and his footing is terrible. Looks like he is dancing up there.
Chris Young, is done! Why do we keep marching him out there?
It’s like a nightmare out there. When the starters are solid the bullpen is terrible. When the bullpen is solid the starters are terrible. WTH?
Well one of the theories on that was to help get the Mets out of contention so Sandy wouldn’t have to be a buyer and change the long turtle 5 year plan he prefers to have.
What? LOL. Where did this conspiracy theory come from? Did you see that anywhere in the media or just fans speculating on that?
Love the FO, hate the FO….I can’t believe for a second this to be true. Besides, they don’t need Bay’s help to fall out of contention. Between the first half BP and now the SP, they’re making a case for that w/o Bay’s lack of production.
Well you tell me (an everyone else) WHY would they rush Bay back with only a few games in the Minors while the team was in the middle of a playoff race?
Make sense of that for the rest of us please…
What was Sandy’s Rationale and Urgency to get back a guy hitting less than Nickeas?
Plus DW is overcompensating for lack of punch in line up and is back to upper cutting and swinging for home runs on every pitch.As soon as Ike gets hot, Wright stops hitting.This team is like watching a Greek tragedy.
I FEAR FOR DICKEY IN SUNDAY’S START AS D’BACKS USE CANDIOTTI FOR BP PITCHING PRIOR TO FACING RA
I think most of the Mets players are now playing for a 2013 spot on the roster. I know the core group will be with us like Wright, and Davis, and I believe Tejada and Harvey , Dickey, Nieses and Gee and some others BUT given our limited payroll HOW CAN THE METS IMPROVE THIS TEAM IN THE OFF SEASON? I personally just don’t see them spending a lot of money on guys like say a Josh Hamilton (I know he is in a terrible slump right now) type. What do you think. I am reallt interested in this off season
Collins says that Bay is what the Mets are looking for in terms of a RH power bat. Really, Terry??? Are you trying to do stand up with comments like that? .164, 5 HR, and 8 RBI in 122 AB’s on the year. For his time as a Met his line is .241/.325/.378 w/ 23 HR in 902 AB’s. Yes, Terry, those are truly Ruthian numbers and Jason Bay is EXACTLY what this team needs. The Mets need Bay about as much as an AA meeting needs a bar.
Here’s what perplexes me, if you’re trying to win games you don’t put a punchless .164 hitter in the lineup every day, you put the most productive player in the lineup. And that player, right now, for the Mets in LF would be Jordany Valdespin. Ok, let’s say you’re in more of a “rebuild” mode, then you’d put the young player in the lineup to see if he can play everyday in the Major Leagues. Either way, for the Mets, that means Valdespin. Sure, he might have his weaknesses exposed by increased playing time. But how would you know if you don’t play him? And why would you sabotage BOTH winning games AND developing a young player by continuing to run a train wreck like Bay out there every night? I’m sorry, $16 million salary or not, Jason Bay does not deserve to be playing Major League Baseball right now. Period.
I cannot believe Collins is pulling the strings on Bay. If he is, then he needs to go also.
Agreed.Alderson is a puppet of Selig.Collins is Alderson’s personal puppet.The beat goes on
The 2nd half has just been so painful. Unfortunately we should all be use to it, but it still sucks!
As a fellow Mets fan hasn’t this been our lot in life.
Unfortunatly neither Torres or Kirk are hitting well enough to really push Bay out the door.
And sending Duda down was done more to salvage Bay and give him playing time than anything to do with Duda.
I mean just look at Bay’s BA compared to Duda’s!
Sure Duda was slumping and hitting .140 in July.
Bay was hitting .114 in July so tell me who deserves to be sent down tothe Minors to fix themselves more?
I mean at least Duda has 12 HRs compared to Bay’s 5!
But Duda got sent down not Bay!
You know I can’t uinderstand why yhe Mets FO can’t learn what most of us found out the hard way. “know when to cut your losses and move on and the sooner the better.” It cost me a bundle to learn this. Years ago I bought my wife a Cadillac (I am a pickup guy) and what a LEMON. The tires were barely worn because it got most of its road time on the tow truck going to the dealer. When the w arranty ended at 36,000 miles and GM told me to suck the big one I dumped it at a BIG loss and moved on. It was painful and had to be done A LA JASON BAY! (By the way since that date I have never owned a car with an American nameplate and never will.)
It’s because our GM looks at the payroll and not much else Lou. It’s not in his nature to pay the best player in baseball 18 Million but now that the salary is there he is too cheap to cut him and have to pay him 18 Million to sit at home!
I might almost understand if they had signed Bay themselves…Then it would be about not admitting your mistake.
But Sandy is now exposing himself on Bay by not facing the truth and doing what needs to be done.
METSIE, OTHER THAN SATISFYING YOUR BLOODLUST AIMED @ BAY, WHAT ADVANTAGE IS THERE TO CUTTING HIM NOW? CERTAINLY NOT FINANCIAL AS KEEPING HIM & CUTTING HIM COSTS THE IDENTICAL $20+M HIS PRORATED REMAINING ’12 SALARY+ 2013 GUARANTEED 16M+ 3M BUYOUT OF ’14 OPTION
FOR THAT MONEY BY CUTTING HIM U ARE GUARANTEED ZILCH IN RETURN & A TON OF WORK FOR OPPOSING LOOGIES AS WE SEQUENCE 4, 5 LHH THROUGH THE BACK END OF THE LINEUP THAT CAN ONLY MUSTER 2 RHH (HAIRSTON,WRIGHT) THAT WOULD DRAW SOME ATTENTION OUT OF OPPOSING DUGOUTS DESPITE YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT JASON BAY, HE’S STILL GOING TO GIVE OPPOSING MNGR’S PAUSE AS TO LIFT OR TRUST THEIR LH RELIEVER WHO THEY MAY HAVE JUST BROUGHT IN TO FACE DAVIS
WHETHER BAY PRODUCES AT A BETTER PACE OR NOT HIS ESTABLISHED PEDIGREE WILL CREATE SOME MEASUERE OF CONSTERNATION IN OPPOSING DUGOUTS THAT HAVE LIMITED LH RELIEF AVAILABLE
AS TO HIS OCCUPATION OF A ROSTER SPOT CAUSING RESTRICTIONS ON COLLINS THERE REMAINS ONLY THIS MONTH OF AUGUST B4 SEPT ROSTER EXPANSION MAKES THAT MOOT.
METSIE IF FOR NO OTHER REASON WITH COSTS BEING IDENTICAL KEEPING BAY AS A POTENTIAL THREAT BASED SOLELY ON HIS HISTORICAL RECORD IS A CONSIDERATION WORTH NOTING
The Advantage is that you gain a Roster spot to use on some kid who can get into the game and cut his teeth in the MLB this year so he doesn’t have to go through the rookie struggles next year or someone else who isn’t an automatic out 16 out of every 17 PA.
It’s not really bloodlust at all it’s as simple as a Math problem.
18M<18M+Roster Spot
METSIE, ROSTER CONSIDERATION IS NEGLIGIBLE CONCERN AS I POINTED OUT THE SEPT ROSTER EXPANSION IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER SO THERY CAN AUDITION WHOMEVER IS LEFT FOR LF FOR NEARLY A MONTH’S WORTH OF COFFEE.
But in september they will also be facing the same guys they are facing now in the MiLs!
Now they will be tested against true MLB players and Pitching!
Big Difference.
September is a very bad month to audition kids and see what they might do in a real MLB situation. Everyone is doing it and this is why you always see some kid who surprises and impresses in September only to see them struggle the following year when they get promoted based on what they did then. because they are doing it against other kids who get into those september games.
You also need more than a Month to judge. It takes a month for the pitchers to get a book on you in most cases and by the time they do that for a september callup the season ends.
If you have given up on this year then it makes a ton of sense to start those kids now so you can see what they do once the book comes out on them.
The only reason to play bay now is to try and right his ship.
And if you fail what did you accomplsh?
Even if you succeed, what did you really accomplish? Is he any cheaper?
is someone going to give you something for him then?
Does it guarantee he will be good next year?
Nope!
So what you might gain by playing Bay is not worth what you might gain by playing some kid and acclimating him to MLB pitching so he doesn’t have to do his acclimating next year in a season that you haven’t given up on yet!
TC comparing Bay’s hitting issues to Ike’s was a slap in the face to Ike and Met fans who can see the difference between an aging, not going to get better vet vs a proven power hitter in Ike who was hitting before hurting his ankle.
Tough choice between Torres and Kirk who both strikeout, Thole or Nickeas or Johnson who don’t hit for power, Bay vs Hairston (against LH) cause he strikes out too much as shown in game last night, he has always been all or nothing and lately Mets need nothing and more contact.
Bottom part, after Murphy, has been a disaster, no one to pick up when Bay or Thole fail cause they stink so when David goes into slump then team lacks players on base because other teams pitch those around David different when he is hitting or slumping.
I say we have a good old fashioned butt kicking today along with an old version RA low hit, shut out complete game, why not, D Backs K a lot and despite Candiotti pitching BP for them, RA’s knuckle ball is harder and breaks later.
Come on RA we need you today to go into that Canyon of a park in San Francisco on a hight note as a team. Please!
LETS GO METS!
Couldn’t agree with you more on your first statement.
Ike might not ever be a high OBP or BA hitter but he’s just starting his career. Bay’s is over.
Almost feel bad for him, it’s painful to watch.
The money is a sunk cost, at this point. Time to move on.
The difference really is that Ike HAS been a high BA OBP hitter…
His Rookie year he had an extended slump but still managed to hit .260 with a .351 OBP.
Bay hasn’t since he got here and the only reason he had a high BA before was because all those fly outs you see now went over or off those short fences in Pittsburg and Boston.
Ike’s issue was clear, He missed a year of seeing MLB Pitching and he probably should have started in the MiLs until he got back up to speed but because Sandy had purged this team of it’s main OB guy and RBI leader last year he had to get all the power bats he could into the lineup.
Ike still isn’t all he can be in his career. But his average is up in games and mostly brought down because of his awful April and May.
He has hit .264 .363 OBP in June and fell to .256 .287 OBP in July which pretty much is about the state of the entire team and it’s losing since the ASG.
Add to it that Davis is our Main RBI guy (60) second only to Wright with 70.
He has 20 HRs with two months to go! That puts him around 30 HRs if he just keeps pace and I could see him getting really hot by late August and September if that missed time doesn’t cause him to run out of gas…
Bay by contrast has 8 RBI and 5 of them are himself thanks to some HRs.
Sure Bay only has 122 PA but you know what but it sure isn’t showing in his numbers!
He seems to be playing just as well as he did when he got here!
Which means NOT GOOD AT ALL!
Short fences in Pittsburgh? Huh? Pittburgh’s LF distances were further away from homeplate than Citifields old dimensions only Pittsburgh’s LF doesn’t have the high walls.
Classic Fonzie post!
Obscure the other facts in order to try and sound like he knows somethingAnd how do they stack up on the rest of the dimensions there Fonzie?
I guess CitiField is a badnboax while Pittsburg features a Hitter’s park right?
Really dude you have to work at being that clueless!
What messed us up was the 2 horrible swings by Torres and and Hairston. They both swung on ball four Torres skipped to the plate and Hairston swung at a pitch above his shoulders. Everyone wanted to see Ike in last inning give us the lead with the fourth homer which I was doubtful of, but I was doubtful of Johan no hitter in the 9th inning also.
How can Collins keep sending Bay out there for automatic outs? I can name 15 minor leaguers who would be better. Dickey is a better hitter. Baxter should replace him when he’s ready.
MARCO, QUESTION #1; ARE THOSE 15 PREFERENCES ALL UNDER NYM CONTROL? & IF NOT UNDER WHAT SCENERIO DO U FORSEE THEM BEING AT COLLINS’ DISPOSAL?
QUESTION #2, HAS IT YET DAWNED ON U THAT BAX, IS TEARING IT UP BECAUSE AS A BENCHER HE’S ESCAPED OPPOSITION SCRUTINY & NO ONE HAS YET BOTHERED TO IDENTIFY HIS GLARING WEAKNESS AS YET UNDETERMINED EVEN BY US MET FANS. DOES ONE EXIST? ABSOLUTELY. A PENORIOUS OPERATRION SUCH AS SAN DIEGO DOESN’T CUT A POTENTIAL TED WILLIAMS BEFORE ARBITRATION ELIGIBILITY. BAX, AS A NY KID HAS HAD MUCH LESS EXPOSURE THAN HIS MORE SOUTHERN(WARMER) CLIMES COUNTERPART. SAN DIEGO CERTAINLY CUT HIM LOOSE EARLY IN THE PROCESS FOR A REASON, THEY DISCOVERED. SURELY, BAX HAS STRENGTHS & IS FUN TO ROOT FOR; AS EXPERIENCED IN SHORT INTERMITTANT BURSTS; BUT AS A STEADY DIET HE MOST LIKELY WILL BE SHORT TOOLS YET TBD.
MARCO, THAT ISN’T MEANT AS A SLAM ON BAX; BUT THE COLD, RUDE SLAP OF REALITY YOUR INFATUATION REQUIRED B4 U SLIDE INTO THE ABYSS OF FOOLISH ANTICIPATION THAT HAS SWALLOWED MANY A MET FAN SINCE CHOO-CHOO COLEMAN FIRST APPLIED BLUE SHINGUARDS.
In regards to Baxter what I suspect happened is he finally closed a hole in his swing that they had been exploiting most of his career and they have yet to re-adjust to him to find the new hole (almost every swing has a hole someplace).
If and when they do his success will depend on how quickly he adjusts this time.
Most players who fail do so because they don’t have the ability to adjust. If they make the MLB then they had some semblence of success only to get sent down when the MLB pitchers figure him out and he can’t adjust to what they do.
Kirk is going through that right now! They found the hole in his swing (High Inside) and they have been exploiting it during this current slump.
He either needs to lay off those pitches or adjust his swing to be able to foul them off and cover that hole. And when he does adjust he will likely be vulnerable to some other pitch (Maybe low and outside this time!) but he will hit again until they find out where the new hole is.