Do You Think Reyes Regrets Joining Miami?

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• Alex68 July 27, 2012 at 8:24 am

  In my opinion he does regret it, his numbers are down, he does not seem as the guy he was while here in NY. Darryl Strawberry did the same and bolted to LA, he was never the same player he was in NY. It is about the money, plain and simple, i don’t think players are concern with being champions, more like being HOF in baseball is the norm.
  But, Dan, if you’re gonna say stuff like this: “Last season Sandy approached Jose right in the middle of his offensive onslaught and wanted to negotiate a long term deal” you might as well include that sandy never approach him before either. he never really wanted to negotiate with him, when the FA period started the mets NEVER approach him, never made a real offer either, matter of fact, offer ZERO money to him, so how much of that was just blowing smokes? what else was he supposed to do? Take an offer versus take an offer that never existed? It is what it is, he’s gone, tejada has done IMO a superb job at SS and quite frankly i thought the kid would struggle but he has done pretty well.
  “He may never have won with the Mets, but he sure as heck is not going to win with Miami”
  Ok, so he’s not going to win in MIAMI either, but he’s $106 million richer… economics my friend.
  • jerseymet July 27, 2012 at 10:02 am

    Last year Straw advised Jose not to leave the Mets. Straw spoke of his regrets in going to LA.
  • METS62FAN July 27, 2012 at 10:20 am

    ALEX, DON’T FORGET PART & PARCEL TO STRAW’S LEAVING WAS FULFILLING HIS LONGTERM PLANS WITH BFF ERIC DAVIS TO BOTH PLAY OUT THEIR STRINGS TO REUNITE IN FRONT OF THEIR INGLEWOD,CA HOMIES FOR THE DODGERS. SIMILARLY, I’M CERTAIN JOSE LOKED TO UNITE WITH HIS FORMER “BEST MAN” FROM HIS WEDDING(HANLEY) NOW LORIA IN HIS MINIATURIZED DISGUISE AS “BOSS” IS PLAYING HIOS PART AS GEORGE WAS HIS IDOL GOING BACK TO HIS DAYS AS SMALL MINORITY NYY OWNER B4 GEORGE BOOTED HIM TO THE CURB, LORIA ON A MISSION TO OUTBOSS HIS “MENTOR” SINCE SEE IRRATIONAL FIELD MNGT DECISIONS AS WELL AS HIS SPONTANEOUS F/A ACQUISITION STYLE.

    CERTAINLY IT WOULD APPEAR THAT JOSE HAS CAUSE TO QUESTION HOW HIS ACTIONS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO HIS SITUATION YEARNING FOR ECHOES OF JOSE,JOSE CHANTS NEVER MATERIALIZING IN CUBANO MIAMI.

    WE MAY NEVER,EVER KNOW ALL OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT ULTIMATELY LED TO JOSE’S PRESENT SITUATION OF HANDING OUT DEPARTING GIFT JOSE CDs TO DOWNSIZED TEAMMATES. LOL
    • Alex68 July 27, 2012 at 11:28 am

      62, Always a pleasure to interact with you… You’re 100% right… I remember him and davis being united in LA. and just like hanley when the dodgers struggle he was shipped out to the tigers… LOL
  • vinnie papandrea July 27, 2012 at 11:01 am

    Alex68 Weather Sandy approached him or not HE WASN”T staying here. If we matched the offer they would have added a year then the 2nd year into the deal after he gets hurt you’d be saying how could we sign him.
• Russell Zanca July 27, 2012 at 8:25 am

  Wah-wah-wahhhhhhhh!
• Even Flow July 27, 2012 at 8:29 am

  Who cares? He made his bed, now let him lie in it.
  • eric July 27, 2012 at 9:35 am

    How did he makes his bed. He wanted to stay very badly and the mets never made him an offer. I really think the way people critisize reyes is messed up
    • Even Flow July 27, 2012 at 9:45 am

      “He wanted to stay very badly and the mets never made him an offer”

      Wrong, wrong, WRONG!

      The Mets tried to approach him during the middle of last season with an offer and while Reyes thought about it and his family begged him to listen, he declined. He could’ve gotten things done like Hamels just did, but he gambled to make over $100 million during the winter yet only ONE team was gonna give him that. That’s the only reason he jumped on the first offer. Of all the teams badly needing a SS, Miami was the only one seriously wanting Reyes?He knew the Mets financial situation and he knew he wasn’t gonna get $100 million here. Besides, not long after Reyes turned down Boras to be his agent, he went around telling people how he couldn’t wait to play for the Angels. Yeah, he wanted to stay “very badly”.
      • eric July 27, 2012 at 1:40 pm

        Never heard that before and i am a die hard met fan. If that is true well the mets prob offered him an embarassingly low amount in which case hed look like a punk to his peers and why should he take dramatically less than he was worth on the open market
      • Metsie July 28, 2012 at 12:32 pm

        Oh please there was no offer they knew full well he did not want to negotiate during the season!

        Where was this offer once the season was done?

        Wright doesn’t want to either if they come to him to resign now and he says no does that mean they no longer have to make an offer in the offseason?
• Mitch July 27, 2012 at 8:30 am

  Money talks….he doesn’t regret anything. We all like to believe that these players want to win championships…and maybe some do…but the majority want to make as much money as they can before the time comes when they have to hang them up so they don’t have to get regular jobs like you and me. If someone paid you millions of dollars to play a sport, at the end of the day would you really care if it was on the worst team in the league or the best team?
  • stick July 27, 2012 at 8:36 am

    I agree about the wanting to be on a champion part. Sure, it is preferably over losing, but only if the money is at least equal.

    Might be different when you get to guys that are winding down their careers and have already cashed in on the big bucks. If they aren’t going to get paid a lot anyway on a 1 year deal, then they can pick a team like the Yankees to up their odds.
• stick July 27, 2012 at 8:34 am

  who cares about a FA mercanary on the Marlins? Nothing to do with the Mets at this oint.

  oh, and the answer is, Not on payday, and probably not the rest of the days since the whole South Beach scene is still there whether the fish suck or not.
• USMF July 27, 2012 at 8:39 am

  I’m sure he regrets it…nobody wants to lose especially when they had sure high expectations.

  But look at how his contract is structured…it’s so back loaded, he actually took a pay cut this year. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Jose traded within the year. And I think Jose went into Miami knowing that being traded was a real possibility.
• jessep July 27, 2012 at 8:50 am

  Here’s the thing – I believe (and nobody will ever change my mind) that Reyes wanted to test free agency and get out of New York. I feel like he did everything in his power last year to showcase himself to other teams. He was less flashy, more focused as a player…To me, 2011 was what Jose Reyes COULD be as a player. It was his ceiling that everybody was waiting for.

  I believe he wanted to go down to Miami because the opportunity to be the face of a franchise was an exciting opportunity for him. I think any other team including the Mets could have matched that offer and he’d be a Miami Marlin. I truly believe that. I think the Marlins knew that from day 1, and they targeted him because he appeared to be a game changer.

  Now, he’s stuck with a franchise that is more worried about how much fun is had at a new stadium, how they look on tv, and how colorful their uniforms are. He’s not on a team that wants to win. Say what you will about the Mets, they WANT to win… they are just handcuffed right now.

  If Reyes wanted to stay in NY, he would have. Everybody blames Alderson, Wilpon signs the checks and frankly, its also an agents job to reach out and start conversations. Neither side budged, and for the Mets, they held all the cards as we see now.

  They didn’t NEED to have Reyes. Sure, Tejada isn’t a better overall player but right now he’s proving the Mets were right with their decision. Reyes needed the Mets more than vice versa.

  Reyes will not finish out his deal with Miami, within 2 more seasons he’ll either be traded to the Yankees or somebody else who doesn’t mind paying declining stars
  • stick July 27, 2012 at 9:12 am

    I agree and said that all along last year. And would not be surprised if much of the plan was worked out well in advance (possibly though Hanley?) But he was on record as talking about the money being the thing, and how anxious he was to try out FA. And it seemed pretty clear that Maimi was his first choice.

    Eveyrthing worked out in his favor (hit his 100mill target, and got his preferred team0 so good for him!
• Metstheory22 July 27, 2012 at 8:51 am

  Agree, and think he will be traded before his contract runs out. Heck, do you think Jason Bay regrets signing with the Mets?
  • jessep July 27, 2012 at 8:56 am

    No I don’t think he does. He’s getting paid a ton of money for a AA performance.

    I think most of Bay’s issues stem from that 1st concussion to be honest which could have happened anywhere.
    • stick July 27, 2012 at 9:08 am

      he was bad before then, but that could have been a combination of slow start, living up to contract, and Citi field in his head. No one really can say for sure.

      But once he had that concussion, he seems to have lost it comepletely. You just don’t see the signs that the old player is still in there, waiting to come back out.
• Anthony July 27, 2012 at 8:58 am

  Yeah I’m sure he regrets it while he is rolling around in his giant pile of money lol.

  In all seriousness….the answer is no. He plays in Miami. Hot weather, beautiful women, hispanic culture, etc. He’s loaded, gets laid every night, and is probably having the time of his life.
• Alex68 July 27, 2012 at 9:03 am

  Jason bay before his 1st consussion: 259 6 47 402 SLug% and 340 OBP… I guess that was a sign of things to come… But of course, jesseP needs to defend his wonder bread comrades….
  Very pathetic….
  • Even Flow July 27, 2012 at 9:12 am

    “But of course, jesseP needs to defend his wonder bread comrades….
    Very pathetic….”

    And you were JUST calling someone else a baiter? LMFAO!
    • Des July 27, 2012 at 9:31 am

      Shhh. Don’t say anything to interrupt Alex68′s baiting or his incessant diatribes about Sandy Alderson. Alex is the first person to cry about stalking . . . . LOL
  • jessep July 27, 2012 at 11:07 am

    hey alex, what does wonder bread have to do with this discussion and my views?

    Can you please elaborate? Go ahead…
• Des July 27, 2012 at 9:40 am

  Jose tried to win the hearts and minds of Mets fans by using the compliant sports press to pressure and disparage the Wilpons. Greenberg and Jose were in one corner and Irving (Pick Pocket) Picard in the other. Both sides were stomping on Fred and Friends. The goal was to get money that the Mets really couldn’t afford.

  You won Jose. Irving lost. Enjoy the fruits of your efforts, Jose. he he he

  P.S.: I’m not crying for Jose. He’s being overpaid for his production on the baseball field
  • Mets2012 July 27, 2012 at 12:58 pm

    Des, you are a despicable human being who needs life.
    It will work out fine for Reyes when he becomes a Yankee.
    • Alex68 July 27, 2012 at 1:00 pm

      Very disturbing comment by DES… As usual…
      • Des July 28, 2012 at 12:47 pm

        Alex68 — To capture one of your ways of dealing with diverse opinions that differ from yours, please stop stalking me. It might give some baseball fans the idea you have credibility. Eh, Alex? Stay with your adoration, and denial of same, of the Miami millionaire, Jose. He’s possibly still mad at Sandy, just like you are. LOL.
    • Des July 28, 2012 at 12:42 pm

      Mets2012 — You’ll never forgive me for calling you out on your sick joke about David Wright in a NYC men’s room. Speaking of a sore loser, you just might come to mind. BTW, what did I say that was despicable?
• sdrt July 27, 2012 at 9:59 am

  Doesn’t matter if he regrets it or not. He’s where he wanted to be. Jumping on the first legitimate offer he got > 100 MIL he was seeking answers that question.

  Don’t care what Loria says – about Stanton and Reyes being untouchable. He won’t finish out that contract in Miami.
• alan July 27, 2012 at 10:04 am

  This article is ridiculous…..does anyone care whether Jose is happy that he went to Florida? Jose Reyes was a great talent for the Mets, no doubt the closest player to Ricky Henderson in what he could do on a baseball field. He also played a more difficult position. What primarily prevented the Mets from wanting to shell out the big bucks for him was his injury history. Then of course there was the fact that the Mets felt that Ruben Tejada was ready to be the everyday shortstop who could hit major league pitching. We should not gloat that Tejada has outplayed Jose this year but instead be thankful that the “brass” was not bullied by a lot of fan sentiment to be a part of a free agent bidding war.

  I have no animosity towards Jose Reyes for wanting to cash in and would always be glad to see him play well against every other team except ours. In the meantime we have a solid shortstop in Tejada who looks like he is a .300 hitter to me. The 100 million bucks that was saved could be used to instead fill a few of the holes in our lineup!

  Move on from these old issues!
  • Alex68 July 27, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Alan, great comment.. I don’t get the obsession with reyes… I hope wright doesn’t leave..but if he does go to a winning team or for more money i wonder if some of these same people that have the animosity towards reyes would say the same about him..
    with that being said, this comment you made “The 100 million bucks that was saved could be used to instead fill a few of the holes in our lineup!” is very true.. Problem is, the money was saved, and instead of being put to use to add good players to the team, was just saved for the wilpons pocket. that’s it. sandy is not a GM, he’s a moneyballer guy following orders to shaved salary and so far he’s done a great job at that..
• Joe Gomes July 27, 2012 at 10:08 am

  Well is not like the Mets ever made him an offer. He took the only offer on the table because he had no other choice. He will eventually be traded to the Yankees as Jeter’s replacement.
  • Metstheory22 July 27, 2012 at 10:09 am

    I think so also. I said that when he signed.
• Christopher Masiello July 27, 2012 at 10:09 am

  That picture is the biggest reason that I said Good Riddance when he left. I always saw him as an very talented, but inconsistent baby-man. I’ll take Tejada’s quite demeanor any day over Jose’s nonsense.
  On another note; this Marlins fire sale is crazy. It looks like they were trying to repeat the cycle again. Last place, last place, last place, LOAD UP, win ring, dismantle.
  I’m not sure if I would prefer a ring every 6 years and garbage the rest of the time over a team that spends relatively big bucks and never gets it done.
• Tom L July 27, 2012 at 10:13 am

  No worries for Jose. By 2014 he will be the Yankee shortstop. Until then he got his money and Miami is no worse than The Mets.
• jerseymet July 27, 2012 at 10:14 am

  These sessions are going very well…. Last year we were all experiencing Jose seperation anxiety…. So many were angry at the front office, demanding Sandy sign Jose, virtually at any price.

  To be fair, I greatly enjoyed watching Jose play for the Mets. I wish him well. You will get over your abandonment issues.
• jdon July 27, 2012 at 10:18 am

  I don’t think about Jose Reyes. Mr. Contract Year. Mr. Bunt for the Batting Tilte. Mr. Me. I did not wish him well when he left and I do not now. In the baseball sense, I mean. He plays for himself. He should be content to get the money he is getting.
• Mitch July 27, 2012 at 10:19 am

  You guys have to understand that Dan is like Reyes super fan #1…he has never been the same since Reyes left. This article was Dan’s way of finally brining closure to the situation and mend his broken heart. He needs our support. It’s like when a guy breaks up with his girlfriend and then drunk dials her six months later….time to move on Daniel- San.
  • jerseymet July 27, 2012 at 11:39 am

    Friends don’t let friends drink and dial.
• Russell Zanca July 27, 2012 at 10:22 am

  One day the truth of the 2011 season and Reyes will come out. Now we just keep speculating. If I had to bet $, it would be that the Mets brass saw no reason to sign a long-term deal with a guy who they felt would be disabled as often as he was abled.

  For me Reyes will always be a mixture of deep talent and deep flaw.

  I would not want him back on the Mets b/c I honestly feel his greatness is in the past. Reyes is the Marlins Bay signing.
• JTGunner July 27, 2012 at 10:42 am

  I’ve never seen Jose Reyes with a face that looked like that when he was a New York Met. I dont know where you dug up that picture, but it says a thousand words.
• Metfan Lou July 27, 2012 at 1:23 pm

  Why even bother with this dribble. He is gone and we move on.
• Mr North Jersey July 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm

  Why would Reyes regret a move that was about doing right by himself and his family financially for the rest of not only his life but his kids lives as well? I can only speculate but I highly doubt he has any regrets.
• Gregg July 27, 2012 at 2:12 pm

  North Jersey hit it on the head.

  1. Reyes got 106 million dollars. Securing his future as well as his kids and grandchildren.

  2. The Mets didn’t even make him an offer. So you can’t say he should have stayed with the Mets when they never even offered him anything.

  3. In case my fellow Mets fans haven’t noticed, the Mets haven’t made the playoffs in 5 years going on 6. They haven’t been relevant in 4 years. It’s not like he left a good team that spends money to join the Marlins. He left a bad baseball team. Sorry to be a downer but the Mets are a bad baseball team.

  4. The only reason the Mets haven’t had their own fire sale is because the contracts of Bay and Johan are un-tradeable. Lets not pile on the Marlins when the Mets haven’t spent a dime in 2 years.

  5. Miami gave Jose a very backloaded deal. He will be traded in another season or 2. Probably to the yankees.

  6. He took the highest $$$$$. Which is a smart move. It’s always a smart move. It’s easy to sit here and say you would have stayed with the Mets, but if any of us had the opportunity to play with the Mets for say 4 yr./60 mill or Miami for 106, I think most of us would be residing
  in south beach.

  7. I tell my fellow NYG fans this all the time. Players are not loyal. Nor should they be. When they can’t play anymore teams choose to not retain their services. Why should the player take less money to stay with a certain team? Fans are loyal. Players like to get paid.

  Bottom Line: Jose Reyes has zero regrets about leaving. It’s foolish to even suggest it.
  • Gregg July 27, 2012 at 2:18 pm

    You could make a case that Albert Pujols should have stayed in St. Louis. That’s a legitimate argument. He’s a God in that town. Plus he had already made 100 million and the Cardinals were offering 200 Million. He left for an extra 50 million.

    Can’t say I blame him for taking an extra 50. Because 50 mill at the end of the day is a lot of money, regardless how much you already have in your bank account.

    But there is at least an argument for him retiring a Cardinal. A player his probably thinks about legacy. And playing in the same uniform for your entire career def means something. It means more.

    But Reyes? Come on. The Wilpons didn’t even offer the guy a contract.
• Gregg July 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm

  By the way get ready to be writing the same article about David Wright in a year or two. Because unless we offer him at least 6yr/120 he’s gone.

  Personally, I think it’s a disgrace that Reyes was allowed to leave, and will be an equal disgrace if Wright leaves. But I haven’t seen the Wilpons spend since the Madoff thing. So I’ll believe it when I see it. Call me skeptical.
• Steve From Norfolk July 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm

  They’ll resign Wright. You want to talk about legacy? Wright is definitely concerned about what kind of legacy he leaves behind. Plus, he’s bled blue and orange since he was a kid. I’ll bet (not that I advise the Mets do this) that you could offer him his present salary (5 yrs @ $16 mil), and he’d take it.
• sarge69 July 27, 2012 at 4:28 pm

  And you know this because you have a crystal ball tied into Miami?

  Jose did what any ball player would have done, he was given the opportunity to play with better players including a new reliever and starter alongside his best man from wedding in a town he would like, how is he to know that a team that just had a new stadium built would panic halfway through season.
  Yes he, Jose,has not live up to his numbers but he can’t close games, he can’t hit for Hanley nore change Hanley’s moping over changing position which probably hurt the clubhouse.
  Imagine the expectations on a team that just had a new stadium built, with taxpayer help, and still can’t deliver the fans?

  Too many things to do in Miami friend, plus I believe if any team needed a stadium built it was Rays but even their fans are un predictable.
• sarge69 July 27, 2012 at 4:30 pm

  Plus as much as Ruben has played well he does not have the arm Jose has or the speed to disrupt games plus, as shown with Spin, Jose brings an excitement to game that was lacking until Valdespin, his HR”s and his flair came along, things which Jose was criticized for.
• Martin July 28, 2012 at 4:40 am

  The marlins are one of the better managed teams in the game. That’s why they already have two world championships. They do fire sales but they also win the world series once a decade or so.
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