And Just Like That, We Go From Buyers To Sellers

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• Alex68 July 23, 2012 at 12:53 pm

  Lol, Good post.. Well, in all fairness to Sandy alderson and his goons in the front office, they did say they were in “wait and see” mode.. We waited, did not pull the trigger, and now we see how bad this team can be without talent on the roster. I mean, the team overachieve all year, why not reward the players and your manager with good players to surround the team with? Instead, collins who noticed this right away, had to hold a meeting telling the players not to worry about players we don’t have. That should’ve told you right there that even the players knew this team needed help.. Only who didn’t see it that way was sandy alderson the guy who obviously does not give flying fu** about it. His job is done after shaving off the payroll for the wilpons..
  • Phoenix Met Fan July 23, 2012 at 1:14 pm

    I have mostly disagreed with the “Sandy is doing a horrible job” team, wanting to be in a “wait and see” mode myself. Well, we’ve all waited and have seen jack. Alex, I’m with you now in believing that our GM may just not give a fudge about winning now. To my recollection, I’ve never argued with you about it, but if I have….I take my crow medium-well =D
    • RON July 23, 2012 at 1:21 pm

      Does anybody want a great backup catcher. So do we . Does anybody want Mike Nickeas as a between innings warm up catcher while the catcher puts on his pads thats the only good we can get out of Nickeas.. Somebody take him off our hands. I never thought i would yern for Rob Johnson or bring back Henry Blanco.
    • Steve From Norfolk July 23, 2012 at 2:35 pm

      He doesn’t. His marching orders from Bud were to keep this franchise from going bankrupt. I’m starting to wonder if Wright will ever get that extension. No one in the front office is worried about winning, just staying solvent.

      Be ready for another decade like the 90′s, without the expensive free agents. A good starting rotation doesn’t matter if your bullpen sucks.
• Mr North Jersey July 23, 2012 at 12:59 pm

  These music videos choices are nice additions at the end of the posts. Even if you disagree with the post you can look forward to a cool music video.
  • Joe D July 23, 2012 at 1:28 pm

    Well I’m sorry we dont agree, but I do appreciate that you enjoy the pictures or videos I include on mine and other’s posts. It’s one of the fun parts of being an editor.
    • Mr North Jersey July 23, 2012 at 2:27 pm

      Hey, you’ll never get 2 people to agree on everything so disagreeing at times is no biggie especially when it comes to something like sports.
• GW July 23, 2012 at 1:03 pm

  Been saying this for months — need to get some more prospects for the next couple of years. This team did a great job of overachieving in the first half, but even if they did exactly the same in the second we wouldn’t be winning any championships. Sell sell sell!
• Gregga July 23, 2012 at 1:18 pm

  This is a big moment for Sandy. In all fairness, i was all over Omar when he went missing in his last few Julys and Augusts, if Sandy doesn’t do something, he’ll be hearing it too. The idea of an all homegrown team is sweet, but this is NYC, the biggest market of them all. It’s time to start landing some studs, and axing some duds (like Bay).
  • Petey Pete July 23, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    Studs? I doubt it. Something tells me instead of a two-year plan, or three-year plan to build a serious contender, Sandy is on a five or six-year plan. I just hope I’m still alive to see it one day.
    • Joe D July 23, 2012 at 1:29 pm

      Hey, what are you doing here? Shouldn’t you be in New Britain talking to Wilmer Flores? lol
      • Petey Pete July 23, 2012 at 1:46 pm

        I’m leaving right now, just got to get Ollie outside to pee. Hahah! Then I’m off! In case you haven’t heard, Lady Ga Ga is the opening act in New Britain tonight. Seriously,a pre-game concert, and I don’t want to miss a note! Go Ga Ga, Go!
        • Joe D July 23, 2012 at 1:47 pm

          Do me a favor and give her the finger for me and the rest of Metsmerized.
          • Petey Pete July 23, 2012 at 1:51 pm

            You ga ga……. I mean, you got it!
        • Metsie July 23, 2012 at 2:09 pm

          Very nice of you to adopt Perez and give him a nice home….

          Just because he was a dog on the mound doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve a loving home.
          All Dogs should be loved by someone!

          LOL
          • Petey Pete July 23, 2012 at 6:36 pm

            Metsie! I didn’t mean Ollie P, I meant my dog Ollie had to pee! And now I have to pee, thanks a lot!
• Meet The Matts July 23, 2012 at 1:30 pm

  Exhale everybody! Let the young players play out the season. This is not THE year. Realistically, and with a little luck they can contend for a wild card NEXT year. So what if they are sellers??? Did you really think that over 162 games the starting rotation that included Chris Young, Dillon Gee and anyone else other than the top 3 (with Johan a question himself) was going to compete over the long haul??? Leave the young guys be. Being “buyers” would mean that somebody gets benched. Kirk, Duda, Ike, Valdespin, Thole… They need to play – and they are going to lose in the process. It’s worth it, though, and Collins will keep them hustling. The minute they don’t, the sit.
  P.s… If they win more than they lose, they’ll be in the mix anyway…
• Petey Pete July 23, 2012 at 1:33 pm

  This one goes out to all of us Mets fans:

  http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+tube+grateful+dead+throwing+stones&view=detail&mid=1BAF65F88006A4
• Devo19 July 23, 2012 at 1:36 pm

  Sandy has done nothing except take the hit for the bufoons that hired him. I agree, but I cannot hammer the guy if his hands are tied by the wilpon clowns. Using the farm system to get help is a moot point.
• srt July 23, 2012 at 1:39 pm

  One game below .500 today.
  How many Met fans out there realistically expected them to be any higher, coming into this season? I certainly didn’t. They’re pretty much where I thought they’d be mid season, or a tad higher. Maybe that’s why I’m not beating on the drum with both fists on any perceived failures right about now.
• Diamond Dave 1 July 23, 2012 at 1:42 pm

  So tonight’s starting pitcher is Chris “I can’t get past six innings” Young. I’m not too confident. We’re lucky if we win 1 of 3 from the Nats. Let’s see, that’ll make it 48-50. Yeah, sell the fuckin’ players. What else is new?
• Joey D. July 23, 2012 at 1:46 pm

  Don’t want to hear anything about building for the future being an excuse for what happened. A team having something going in the present has nothing to do with hindering that future not one bit (sans 2004). It started last year with the vision that one should trade an impact player every time and prioritize the long-range needs of the team over short-team hopes that everything breaks right. Well, the future of the team isn’t going to live or die by passing up any one prospect not one damn bit.

  We might root with our hearts and not our heads but we also aren’t foolish enough not to recognize the line of bullshit the executive suite spins about that new vision and not being able to compete in the present without sacrificing the future. You see, bullshit is something lawyers are well versed in. They don’t lie, they just don’t tell the whole story – like they are rebuilding for the Wilpon’s future, not the team’s.
  • Joe D July 23, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    I’m actually both surprised and impressed that the wordpress filter allowed you to use “bullshit” as a verb. I didn’t realize this system was that sophisticated. It’s something I must look into.
    • Joey D. July 23, 2012 at 2:53 pm

      Joe,

      I’m surprised I was able to limit my verbular just to that. One doesn’t know how angry I am with ownership and front office…, well, I guess maybe one does. But now Sandy has his way – the Mets are just about out of it and he can say it’s time to think ahead for the future and be sellers. Of course, he won’t say anything about we still believe in you guys and go get em!
• Metsie July 23, 2012 at 2:13 pm

  I agree Joe…
  Sandy has been waiting all season for this moment.
  Why else would he rush guys like ramirez and Bay back into the lineup after one or two tuneup starts in the Minors when it would have been much better to leave them down there to work out thier issues?

  Why did we say no to Harvey? Because he wasn’t ready? NO! Because he might have actually won a few games between now and the deadline and put pressure on Sandy to make a deal he really doesn’t want to make!

  Sandy has been waiting for us to fall below .500 all season long and now that it has happened watch the selling begin!

  If Santana wasn’t hurt he would be a prime candidate as the first to go!
• Kymets July 23, 2012 at 3:13 pm

  I’m not off the bandwagon yet. What if we sweep the Nats we will be 5 out? The bullpen look like they getting better and Harvey might be good you never know. I will give up when we are 10 out with 9 to go.
  • Mr North Jersey July 23, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    You make a good point Kymets on wanting to wait to see how things unfold. I agree with the approach your taking. Personally I do not subscribe to this idea that the FO wants the team to fail and more to the point that they are somehow glad the Mets have lost 8 of their last 9 games. While it pains some to not see a trade done it has been known since before the ASB that the Mets had a 10 day window after the break to look at internal options before the market started to be formed as to trade possibilities. Yesterday was the tenth day. I think we can say that Edgin has looked good so far as a lefty out of the pen. Parnell has shown again that a closer he still is not. Francisco is close to being back but he is not here yet so if they could rent a reliever for the next 2 months that could improve the pen that would be good.
    It will apparently take a team to be willing to take low level prospects to get it done Ricco already outlined what they are not willing to do and for better or worse this is the approach they plan to take.

    The Mets are 1-10 over the last 10 games. I do not believe they are a .100-W-L% team. I still see a team that has good starting pitching in Dickey, Niese & Young and if Santana is back in a few weeks I believe there is no reason to believe he can’t give the Mets some quality starts if healthy. Offensively I think Collins needs to play the hot bat more and get away from some of his strict platoons. I despite what some may say am OK with Byrdak, Edgin, Parnell, Rauch & Francisco in the pen. R. Ramirez I am not sold on despite him pitching better since his return and Elvin I need to see more.
    We’ll know more over the next 10 days how the team responds to this bad stretch of games.
    • Mr North Jersey July 23, 2012 at 3:54 pm

      The Mets are 1-9*
      • Kymets July 23, 2012 at 4:31 pm

        All the games we lost was winnable its not like teams came and knock the crap out of us, if we can sweep the Nats somehow (they always find ways to beat us) we will be 5 out with a easy stretch of games diamondbacks padres and marlins giants being the only playoff team in that strecht of games. We can easily get back in the being only 5 games out of the wild card.
      • Bob L July 23, 2012 at 7:04 pm

        Granted, this 10-game span since the ASB has been a bummer, but i’ve been surprised we were ‘contending’ at this point anyway. Also, Kymets is correct, haven’t more than 1/2 of these 9 losses been by 1 run? i agree with North Jersey and Kymets. It’s too early to throw in the towel.
        Some of our younger players have begun to struggle; Duda, Kirk, but that has to be expected. Ike has shown some life recently; Valdespin, admittedly in a small sample, has looked good. I’m with North Jersey. I’m not giving up on this team. We’re young; maybe Harvey will be nice early Christmas present and 2013 – 14 doesn’t look so bad to me.
• Tampametsfan July 23, 2012 at 10:45 pm

  Who exactly would the Mets be selling? The only good player on the team is Wright. Every other player would be on some other teams minor league team. The Mets have Wright and two starters and that’s about it. No one wants what the Mets have.
• Chris July 25, 2012 at 11:00 am

  What could the Mets get for Dickey? If they could get 2 or 3 top prospects…..then id consider it