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2012
Alderson On Trade Deadline, Keeping Hairston, Being Competitive
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At 4:00 PM today the trade deadline came to and end with nary a move from the New York Mets. As the song says not a creature was stirring not even a mouse….
We weren’t buyers, nor were we sellers…. We were what you’d call not-so-innocent bystanders. Life goes on.
In a conference call at 4:30 PM, Sandy Alderson faced the music and was as well prepared as a high-priced lawyer delivering the opening statement in the trial of the century: And surprisingly he opened by saying the Mets were buyers till the end.
“I’m not sure we ever totally changed course,” Alderson said. “Being buyers has different connotations, most strongly having to do with the current season. … If you go back and review the chronology of the last month, you realize that things changed pretty rapidly from just before the All-Star break and certainly right after the All-Star break until just the last four or five days. So in terms of being aggressively buying for 2012, certainly things changed during that period of time, and very swiftly. At the same time, we continued to look for opportunities to improve the team both this year and in 2013. And in some cases even looking at rental players that would have only helped us in 2012. We didn’t give up on the buying activity at all.”
How’s that for an opening statement? The courtroom and jury were moved and hanging on every word.
The Mets lost 14 of 18 games after Frank Francisco landed on the DL.That’s when this current slide began. That was when Collins said he needed to begrudgingly change everyone’s bullpen roles and even R.A. Dickey was called on to fill in with disastrous results. According to Alderson there were no relievers available during that time. He also added that given the team’s poor performance after All Star game, it made it unwise to deal a prospect for big time reliever.
“There really wasn’t availability. If you’re talking about an impact reliever at the end of the game, and you go back to right after the All-Star break, the market really had not fully formed. Would a reliever of some renown, some ability, have made a difference? It’s possible.”
Regarding not trading Scott Hairston, Alderson said he didn’t believe it was worth moving him unless he got a team’s top three prospect (Wheeler, Flores or Harvey). Wow,
Honestly, remember when Alderson said the available players were “too pricey” on July 25th, if he was expecting a top three prospect for Hairston, he’s right, that’s as pricey as things can get. So Hairston is here to stay and I’m glad.
“Right now he’s a very important part of our team. We feel it’s important to keep 2012 as competitive as possible.”
Competitive or in other words what you’ve seen in the last 19 days. It may help sell a few more tickets to be competitive. Competitive is a very popular word these days, bit means different things to different teams.
Things got hot when Adam Rubin asked Alderson about if not buying why not sell? Or if he was opposed to detracting from the win total of a non-playoff team. (There were three teams who wanted Hairston, Alderson confirmed before this question). Alderson replied:
“Well, maybe you’re not a Mets fan, Adam. Or you’re not a Mets employee. Or you’re not a Mets observer. You’re certainly a Mets reporter. It’s not clear to me you have the same mindset as all the other constituencies that relate to the Mets. It’s a good question, but if we’re just going to get marginal talent, and I’m talking about let’s say maybe not even top-30 prospect status in an organization, then we have a choice to make.”
“I thought we would talk on this call about the fact that we didn’t add anything. And now we’re talking about why we didn’t subtract, which is interesting to me. As I said, we’re about changing impressions, changing perceptions.”
Ahh… memories of that Omar Minaya press conference… Don’t worry though, nobody took their shirts off…
Nobody could get under a Mets GM’s skin better than Adam can. 
Alderson did end the call with a message of hope for the fans, ”I understand fans are disappointed with what has happened the last three weeks, but it’s not the end of the season.”
He’s right folks, it’s not the end of the season. Plenty of great competitive baseball still to be played.
Lets Go Mets…
Thanks to ESPN and MetsBlog for transcribing parts of the call….
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Nothing gained, nothing lost. We have a good GM who doesn’t act rashly.
Man Kramer we are indeed so blessed to have sandy alderson as GM and the great Wilpon family in ownership. Aren’t you glad you aren’t a Dodger fan. Those suffering souls, lost their great owner for a group of rich SOBs who go out and get players that might put their team in the playoffs.What a stupid idea!!!!! Poor Dodger fans. I bet they are all switching to Met fans so they can watch mediocre teams year in and year out and be the minor league team in their metropolitan area.
OPS: I’m amazed the lord even knew the trade deadline came and went!
If you are that interested in the Dodgers, nobody is stopping you from rooting for them. BTW are you from Bayonne, NJ?
Kramer: How utterly clueless you are. You don’t even know why tyeams get rid of guys in their mid 30′s when the team is bad do you. They don’t care what they get because they use the time to let a mlb ready or near ready guy play every day. But your false god who you love and cherish would rather sell guys like you on the greatness of playing thiose mod 30′s guys over the kids. So enjoy having Bay and Hairston and Torres playing and Kirk and Duda rotting away. You deserve a rotten team. Unfortunately, the majority of us do not. so you enjoy and go to every game and make Fred and Sandy proud of your stupidity and your endeavor to throw away your money on mediocrity. And when they are gonew you’ll cherish the next gm because you don’t have a clue. Just another of the shrinking group of blind followerers. .Just like the cult that worshipped Paterno and still exists. Were you at ped state today worshipping there this morning with all your brain dead buddies??
LOL@Amazin
Couldnt have said it any better lol
Church of Sandy is in Session everyone bow there heads and sit on there hands for the trade deadline.
Kramer has no problem paying premium prices to go watch a terrible mets team….He’s fine with purchasing $12 dollar Subway sandwiches in Citi Field that cost $5 dollars right outside the building.
Why should Sandy trade a Marginal talent Vet career bench player whom wont be here next year for a young prospect whom is considered a non top 30 prospect by other teams???
“See: K-Rod and cash for Daniel Herrera And Rhp Adrian Rosario”
Dillon Gee & Josh Edgin were once considered a non top 30 guy and why the f*ck is Depodesta the genius here and getting paid so much if him and his scouting staff cant find overlooked talent in other organizations??
“why the f*ck is Depodesta the genius here and getting paid so much if him and his scouting staff cant find overlooked talent in other organizations??”
Probably, but just a guess – Paul DePodesta is the Director of Amateur Scouting.
So that is probably why the (blank) he isn’t out finding overlooked talent in other organizations. Because that’s not his job.
Jim D’Aloia is the Director of Professional Scouting
Just know the people who are adult enough to carry a conversation read your two comments where you call Kramer “classless” for having an opinion about making a trade and then “Just like the cult that worshipped Paterno and still exists. Were you at ped state today worshipping there this morning with all your brain dead buddies??”
We’re not laughing with you – we’re laughing at you in disgust.
could we please not use Paterno and a case involving child rape as an example for a baseball team not making any trades?? Seriously. You’re ridiculous for even placing these two things in the same universe. Get a grip on yourself.
thank you Robert!
This is at least the 3rd time “Amazin” has used the reference and each time it gets sadder and sadder
Come on now, we knew he was not going to do anything to improve the team. For whatever the reason and I am sure he has plenty. I have to say that this is just disappointing. He knew a month into the season that the bullpen was jacked and he did nothing to try to improve it. Bay is done unfortunately but I do understand you have to allow him to play with all that dough he is making. Maybe he will continue to be a class act and refund them part of that lousy contract or simply ask to be released. Now the starting pitching has taken two major hits and he stood by again. I like that Harvey is up, but I would have liked them have gotten Wandy Rodriguez to fill out the rotation, than give away starts to Batista & Hefner. Hefner can be the long man in the pen. And I know he was not serious in seeking top prospects for Hairston or Byrdak, because if he was he should be tested for substance use and abuse. Yes, I can agree to not make moves for the sake of it or continue to make bad moves, but don’t try to sell us your B.S. please.
Yeah Nero didn’t act rashly or panic either!
From now on we should just call Sandy Nero!
100 % IN AGREEMENT ……
Sandy A is not a guy to panic…and while he has to present a positive persona at all times to the public, he knew all along that the team we saw in the first half was not going to be in the hunt for the playoffs by season’s end. He did the right thing not taking the risk of re-signing Jose Reyes and will not succumb to making quick fix trades on the notion that if everything falls into place that there is a chance they will make the playoffs.
Tejada is our shortstop and should be there for years!
I honestly feel we will see some off season moves by Sandy to help fill some of our holes!
We do?….all i see is BAD GM who did nothing to improve his team.
I’ll say one thing about him, the dude’s got big ones. A Zack Wheeler or Matt Harvey type prospect for 2 months for Hairston??? lol
It would have been nice to see a decent outfielder and reliever come out of this, but I’m not surprised. 13 days until football season.
Like the Phillies, the Mets too are waving the white flag on 2012. But at least the Phillies did some things to make 2013 a better season for them. They stocked the farm and made sure their ace was coming back. We did crap. We did nothing. Even the Marlins made moves to improve in 2013. We did crap. We did nothing. And we already know the Alderson hot stove season playbook very well. God is it really gonna be his third one??? Who’s in the Rule 5 this winter?
What did the Phillies and Marlins do to improve their 2013? Stocking the farm doesn’t really mean improving for next season unless you get some good AA guys ready to be promoted.
The Phillies traded Victorino who was in his walk year – similar to the deal some knocked SA over with Beltran. But now we’re gonna praise the Phillies for it?
They traded Pence because their roster is a money pit. Are you going to tell me Pence isn’t good enough to be a part of their 2013 plans? Pence would be the best hitter on the Mets outside of Wright.
They dealt Pence because Rollins-Howard-Utley-Hamels-Halladay-Lee-Papelbon are combined making over $110mil and they currently are playing like a last place team.
Phillies are 45-57, 100 games out of first and like 50 games out of wild card.. MEts were 6 games out…. with like 80 games to go.. and we all know what happened to the potent braves down the stretch last year…
I miss Omar…boycotting CitiField cont’s..
You miss Omar???
oh jeez……
I hope he doesn’t miss Tony Bernazard too.
It sure did take him a long time to say the Mets have raised the white flag on the ’12 season.(my words not his).
Why does anyone thing Alderson is a great GM? He won with 2 juiced teams and hasn’t won since. He had some money to spend in the offseason and made a horrible trade and signed 2 horrible free agent relief pitchers. He has done nothing since. I am a former full season ticket holder that will not give the Mets a dime of my money until the Wilpons and Alderson are out. What other business can you be such a failure and make over 2-3 million a year?
Jeff, two juiced teams PLUS a top 5 MLB payroll. It’s amazing.
Rubin still ‘lobby’ for that FO job? Don’t quit your day job, Adam.
If the Mets could of added bullpen help it would of been good but by the same token if they was just going to add a marginal reliever to begin with I am just as good going with our internal option of Edgin. Right now the Mets are under .500 but if they can get back above .500 & barring injury along with the return of Santana & Francisco I think they can at least make a run. Reason being that in my opinion the positive things I saw in this team over the 1st 86 games are for the most part still there.
First things first though, Mets need to get to .500 and Lincecum will not make that easy tonight.
Hi Joe,
Guess we didn’t realize how valuable Hairston is to the Mets in 2012 and their plight to keep from falling further since Sandy said “Right now he’s a very important part of our team. We feel it’s important to keep 2012 as competitive as possible.”
Guess that also means Carlos Beltran wasn’t as valuable last season as Hairston is now. When questioned about Beltran last July Sandy said “I think far more important in that situation will be realistically how we play over the next week, two weeks, three weeks and how the season develops.”
Hariston will be a free agent at the end of the season, same as Beltran last year. Yet Sandy had a different tune then “Carlos’ situation is well known to all teams,” Alderson said. “Not surprisingly, given his situation as well as his performance this year, there has been a lot of interest.” And that “situation” was known as far back as spring training – long before Zach Wheeler ever came into the picture
Same situation but guess he didn’t feel it was important to keep 2011 as competitive as possible like 2012. Even Carlos acknowledged during the all-star break “It’s probably just a matter of time. Right now, though, I’m part of the New York Mets.”.
Carlos, that’s because you can’t carry the bat and glove of a Hairston on a team that had lost 14 out of 15 compared to the team that had gone 12-9 before being traded essentially without a closer, either.
Joey, Joey, Joey. What are we gonna do with you? You mean to tell me you don’t see a difference between Hairston and Beltran? In a nutshell, Beltran is the type of player that can carry a team to the playoffs down the stretch. He’s been a star his entire career. Hairston is a 4th OFer/bench player having a career year. Beltran can get you a Wheeler back and Hairston can’t. Hairston will get you a middle level prospect. What’s the point in trading him for a mid level prospect? If Hairston could get us back a big prospect he would’ve been gone by 4 o’clock this afternoon.
Ah Fonzie,
We are both thorns in each other’s side. LOL
Beltran could carry a team to the playoffs – so that is why we wanted to get rid of him in 2011 when we still had a realistic chance of making some noise yet we want to keep Hairston as Sandy says in order to be “competitive” in 2012? Why is Sandy talking in terms of staying competitive in 2012 when he got rid of our closer and top hitter in 2011.
Oh, BTW, Sandy said getting rid of KRod had only so much to do with that $17 million bonus:
“As far as where Frankie was in achieving his vesting option, I don’t think that was a factor either. “I’m not suggesting that that whole option consideration was not a factor. It was one of many. But he certainly wasn’t going to vest by the end of July.”
Then he added about Beltran:
“I do want to make it clear that the Rodriguez trade should not signal anything to anyone about Beltran, I think far more important in that situation will be realistically how we play over the next week, two weeks, three weeks and how the season develops.”
Beltran was going to be gone, no matter what. Even Sandy admitted (in another link I posted) that if he couldn’t get a top prospect then monetary consideration would be in order. Sandy wasn’t considering keeping Beltran at all.
So Sandy thinks it is important now to stay competitive when the Mets are nine games out of the loss column for the two wildcard spots (when they were tied just a few weeks ago) but was not important when the Mets were jut six games out in the loss column for the wildcard last year?
BTW – Zach Wheeler has been bombed six of his last eight starts and has given up 16 hits in his last 7.2 innings. He has also dropped from among the league leaders in ERA to 33rd and has now fallen back to 14th in WHIP. He is also number 15 in most walks allowed. He is also second in the league in hit batters. Instead of improving in double-A as the season goes on, he is getting worse.
That doesn’t mean he won’t turn out to be a fine major league pitcher, however, as many of us contend, he was not worth giving up the season for – especially if the vesting bonus for KRod and Beltran’s salary were not the major reasons for their departure as Sandy implied.
Still think the Met front office (all of them together as a unit, not Sandy as an individual) is not full of BS?
BTW – attached are the Eastern League pitching leaders so you won’t again claim I am making another unsubstantiated claim.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/leader.cgi?type=pitch&id=2e1304d8
For the record Joey D your looking at rankings that include unqualified leaders.
If you go to Milb.com and look at the actual ranked leaders you will see a far different rankings.
As of the last time I checked just before hitting submit. Wheeler ranks,
10th – ERA
4TH – WHIP
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_pit&lid=113&sid=l113
Maybe so, North, but it still doesn’t take away his own performance for six of his last eight starts and how his own stats have fallen as quickly as the Mets won-lost record.
Tough loss tonight. Harvey pitched “good enough to lose” as Casey would have put it. He could have easily won the game with some breaks. He did his job and I liked what I saw.
http://www.milb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120731&content_id=35895134&fext=.jsp&vkey=news_milb
Why does it seem some of you root for the demise of this kid? Never mind we already know the answer.
Hi Trs,
Does this sound like one is not rooting for the kid? I wrote:
“That doesn’t mean he won’t turn out to be a fine major league pitcher, however, as many of us contend, he was not worth giving up the season for – especially if the vesting bonus for KRod and Beltran’s salary were not the major reasons for their departure as Sandy implied.”.
It was the fact that we were told the need to rebuild was the reason we got rid of Beltran and Krod last season and now the need to be “competitive” is the reason to keep Hairston. Why isn’t Sandy continuing his vision of re-stocking our minor league season – one does not need to be a Zach Wheeler to not be worth the gamble of trading Hairston with us out of it.
No, it’s not rooting for Wheeler to fail. It’s contending that the non-action taken this season in comparison to the need to “rebuild” in 2011 shows that the reasons for those trades plus most everything told to us by the Met front office is full of BS. Beltran and KRod were going to be gone by the trading deadline and with Carlos, it would have been even if there was no Zach Wheeler to get.
Nobody is rooting against Wheeler. It’s the front office we’re disgusted with. If the Giants didn’t offer Wheeler, we would have accepted the same type of prospects we got for KRod instead.
You continue to get your stats wrong Joey D. You mean 4 of his last 7 starts.
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=l113&t=p_pbp&pid=554430
Unlike Fonzie who I respect his efforts for trying as often as he does. I don’t really care to constantly repeat the same points why I believe your wrong in some of your opinions. I am merely in this case trying to point out a statistical mistake on your part with the ERA & Whip rankings and now the number of bad starts.
I’ll leave you and Fonzie to continue your discussion.
North,
I made a mistake in counting – an honest mistake.
But there is something else I must point out. You have the professional journalistic skills to be insulting in a subtle way and while I recognized this I remained respectful despite your unrelenting passion to be belittling in manner, rude and obnoxious. At least Fonzie has been openly honest in his feelings instead of being coy.
The latest example was making it a point not to include me with the word “respect”. I’ll let that stay where it belongs.
Hi Joey, meet pot.
Joey D, take a deep breath, hold it, and exhale.
Better?
Now, I have been if anything very honest and respectful the few times I do choose to engage you which is very seldom.
That I point out Fonzie is cause I mentioned his name in regards to how he continually makes efforts to explain certain points often and I did not want him to think I was trying to demean his efforts for doing so.
My comment was to point out an inaccuracy not a judgement on what you said at the time. A simple oops thanks for the heads up would of sufficed.
You followed that with another statistical mistake while trying to make the point that it doesn’t change what your trying to say. To which I replied that you again made a mistake (not saying you was trying to mislead in any way if that is what you was thinking) just a mistake and then I let you know what my perspective is the few times we interact unlike the one I see with you and Fonzie and why I commented to begin with and that I’d leave you to continue your discussion.
If you look at our past exchanges I could argue that if anyone has been insulted based on words said it is me.
All I can say is sorry my honesty offends you.
I am going for a 2nd time disregard your remarks toward me as just a misunderstanding on your part.
Enjoy your evening Joey D.
http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=P&sid=milb&t=p_pbp&pid=554430
I don’t know where you got Wheeler being bombed 6 of his last 8 starts. It’s more like 4 of his last 10. BTW did you see the game he pitched tonight? 11 K’s and 7 of them were the last 7 batters he faced.
“So Sandy thinks it is important now to stay competitive when the Mets are nine games out of the loss column for the two wildcard spots (when they were tied just a few weeks ago) but was not important when the Mets were jut six games out in the loss column for the wildcard last year?”
I don’t know how to explain it to you any more clearly. It’s all about the return. Beltran was worth giving up the chance at being a 500 club because of the level of the prospect he got back. Hairston won’t get you back anything close to a Wheeler, hence Sandy made the decision it’s better to keep the player and try and compete than to give him up for nothing. We have many marginal prospects we don’t need another.
Last year it was not worth keeping Beltran and passing on a chance to get one of the best pitching prospects in baseball all for the chance at possibly finishhing 500. I can’t make it any more understandable. If we had something worth selling than he would’ve sold him. If Bay was having a big year and we could get out from under him we would’ve. Get it? Very simple! Hairston has no value. Beltran did.
And I don’t agree that they would’ve given Beltran away for the same package that K-Rod brought back. 2 entirely different deals. K-Rod only needed 21 games finished for his option to vest. he already had 34 and Collins was using him in games they were training and he was getting credit for games finished so that option would’ve easily kicked in at the rate Collins was using him.
Beltran was not a Salary dump. We paid almost his entire remaining salary so that can’t be considered a salary dump. They got a top prospect back. If they didn’t get a top prospect and didn’t pay his salary then that’s a salary dump.
There are quite a few things to be upset about the job Sandy has done so far but the things you pick to judge him are really mind boggling.
Good luck. If Joey ever understands this then half of his post will disappear.
No emphasis on winning a championship.Let’s stay “competitive”.This franchise rally hates its fans.How else can you describe this crap anymore?
Not that my opinion matters much, but for what it’s worth:
1. I’m glad we didn’t trade Scott Hairston. I think we should sign him to a two-year $3 million deal if he’ll take it.
2. I was so scared we were going to end up trading prospects like Mejia or Den Dekker for a rental only to finish out of the playoffs. Whew, glad that didn’t happen.
3. I think we are going to nee Alderson to spend some bucks this winter. He never reinvested that Jose Reyes money like he said, and this team need so mant\y things and he cant be shopping on the cheap again.
Oh and one more thing. LETS GO METS!!!
Gina — “Not that my opinion matters much . . . .”
It’s refreshing to read rational points of view. So in my book, whether we agree on all points or not, your opinion matters to me. Thanks.
Gina, you are confusing suspects with prospects.Den Dekker is a Kirk N., Duda clone.Strikes hit every 3 at bats, hits lefty and might make a decent fourth outfielder one day.I would hve traded any of them if it brought back a catcher or a bullpen arm.Looks like nobody wants them
I wish I had any more energy to invest in Alderson. No one’s ever told him to sell our future; no one’s saying don’t continue to develop your young players. But Hairston for a top three prospect? And we’re buyers until the end? It’s getting tiring trying to see light at the end of the tunnel.
I actually think Rubin’s point was very fair. And the fact that he got under Alderson’s skin means to me that not only did he touch a nerve, but perhaps he was right in what he was saying. Mets fans keep talking about sticking to the plan. Well the plan looks like decrease payroll, play young and flawed players, and hope for a .500 season. Awesome.
Great assessment, Hank.
If Sandy was really sincere about rebuilding for the future, he should have stuck with his “vision” from last season and have traded Hairston even if it only meant a “middle level” prospect. Why keep Hairston? Why sacrifice the future by keeping him since so many mid-level prospects have gone on to have respectful careers in the majors? Why has the logic suddenly changed?
With Sandy’s great talent for assessing prospects I’m sure there was at least one out there he deemed under-rated talent wise. I mean he’s already given us Brad Emus and Pedro Beato.
“Regarding not trading Scott Hairston, Alderson said he didn’t believe it was worth moving him unless he got a team’s top three prospect”
ROFLMFAO!
Oh wait, he was serious?
Wow. He must’ve been smoking that ganja with Snoop Dogg….I mean, Snoop Lion.
Comments like Sandy’s make you wonder who put this bullpen together in the first place.
No accountability – it makes one wonder if…” maybe you’re not a Mets fan…”
Thank god Sandy didnt trade Hairston he is essential to our further mediocrity….If he traded Hairston Alderson would only have the Wheeler acquisition to brag about as good moves….
While other non contenders were taking advantage of Teams who are in the thick of a playoff hunt , making moves to improve their position in free agency for next year our GM was sitting on his hands watching how real GM’s operate.
I guess this years needs will be the same as last years….bullpen and Outfield no faith he’ll improve this team….This is still Omars team…Sandy hasnt done anything but cut payroll didnt make his mark yet like so many wanted him to
By coming out and stating that he needed to receive a 1-3 ranked prospect to move Hairston, didn’t he lose even more bargaining chips at the negoation table if/when he tries to re-sign him in the offseason? His price was already going up as it is, but coming out and stating that publically gives Hairston’s agent that much more to work with. Good for Hairston…not so good for our chances to re-sign him this winter.
I Mean, LOL, what else can i say about this man that hasn’t come trough about himself? he’s not here to help this franchise and to top it all, he keeps mocking the fanbase and insulting our intelligence. how else do you explain him saying he’d like a top prospect for hairston?
As joe D mention, the man had a plan to delivered this speech weeks ago when he knew he wasn’t doing sh**, same with reyes, as soon as he was asked about it he came up with the “we lost $70 million speech” and signed FF and Rauch right away. He does have a way to somehow keep convincing the usual slurpers , errr, suspects here about how good of a job he’s doing. It’s amazing how he’s making a mockery of our fanbase, and it’s a shame.
Little did some of you know, my friend maniac, from the CORE gave me this info, If the mets finish with a losing record this season, Sandy alderson will be one more losing season away from tying a GM record for most consecutives losing season in a row by a GM. a record that’s been intact for more than 60 years.
By the way, as some of you pointed out, he wanted to remain competitve this year when the mets are 8.5 games out, yet last year he sent Krod packign to save cash and beltran out of here for a single A prospect with high ceiling and high Walk ratio with only 6 games out.. SMH.
The Mets made no acquisitions at the deadline while a significant number og games from a playoff spot.
JUST LIKE 1973!
That is what we wanted, right? To have this year just like 1973?
For all you Sandy A. bashers…….You are obviously not very observant students of the game. Why don’t you see all of the holes that this team has? To think that Sandy should have been wheeling and dealing with the idea of sneaking into the playoffs is absurd. This team is still a year or two away from seriously competing. We have a bunch of young players with talent but not enough experience. These players got off to good starts but the competition has been able to exploit their weaknesses. Then there is the proverbial sophomore jinx and if ever there was one…could it be better defined than what has happened to Ike Davis?
You guys are either closet Yankee fans or expressing your “warped” ideas based on fantasy baseball leagues. Our future is Matt Harvey, followed by Zack Wheeler and the further maturity of Jonathan Niese and Dillon Gee. Add in R.A Dickey and Johann Santana for a couple of years and then we have what is considered the backbone of the “70″ percent part of the game. Our recent downward spiral began when we lost Frank Francisco to injury. He had some tough outings but he had a pretty good save percentage.
Remember this….we never got beyond 7 games above .500 and that was in a division where only the Nationals were playing well constantly.
Once again….there will be no quick fix moves by this GM that will be foolish!
So wait, our SP ERA is 5th best in the League…. I am not sure what is your point? No matter how good your SP is, if your bullpen sucks it’d be just a wasted quality start by the pitcher… Ask Johan Santana in 2008, he could’ve won 22 games that year, but the bullpen blew 7 games when he left with the lead…
Stop your slurpiness of sandy alderson, he’s been a terrible GM and for anybody to defend him is absurd
Alderson is a BS artist. Does he really think we believe his crap. The Mets were standpat from Day 1 this season, never intended to make a deal at any time this season. Still have hope this season? This is New York, Sandy, remember? Don’t give us a con job. Loyal Met fans deserve the dignity of being told the truth. You guys planned this year as a lost season, a long “spring training” year. Don’t insult us by pretending you really considered buying or selling or hoping for the playoffs. You privately welcomed that post-All Star game slump because it took the pressure off you, and kept your visionary status quo plan intact.