How could you say:

“I think part of the problem with your response here is that you assume most/all GM’s come out to the media and would do things differently.”

My First Sentence: “Not to single out Sandy from others but just like any lawyer, he is a BSer.”

My Final Two Sentences: ” In the position he and the owners are in, Sandy has to be even more careful than others with what he says publicly. But because of that, his credibility has thus been tarnished and that his words often have not reflected his actions.”

So I purposly went beyond simply saying “GM’s publically rarely ever give you 100% truth’s”, so not to convey to others I was simply looking at this through an anti-Sandy bias. I went so far as to say I understtod that one in his position with the Mets financial troubles would have to be even more careful than others with his public statements, followed up by his credibility being tarnished “due to the situation he is placed in.

And you might have noticed I was replying to Dan when he wrote

“What are you guys talking about? Sandy is the furthest thing from a BSer. He gives you a lot if information on what his thoughts are and he gives real answers instead of the typical GM speak.”

Didn’t you notice I also opened with “Hi Dan” so others would know who I was addressing my response to and for why?

My examples went on to illustrate the double-talk we so often get — and that is why I made it immediately known that I wasn’t singling Sandy out on this but rather wanting to point out that Sandy shouldn’t be singled out as being above that, either.

Jessep, this is what I mean about looking only at parts of instead of the entire text and thus taking things out of context. As a member of the fourth estate cyber community, I am sure you appreciate that more than anyone else.

I notice you did not imply I was being inaccurate with the contradictions but, at the same time, noticed you failed to acknowledge that, just like you, I understood the reasons why such things were said. If anything, I believe I went out of my way to point out Sandy was in a difficult situation to begin with and handling it no different than most other general mangers would publicy.

I’ll have to go back to baseball-reference.com and type in “Bayonne Mets Fan” so I can see just how much more qualified you are than I to discuss clutch hitting.

I think part of the problem with your response here is that you assume most/all GM’s come out to the media and would do things differently.

“The Madoff situation had no effect on the Mets/They could not make moves with the civil suit hanging over their heads.”

— First and foremost, anything to do with this was likely handed from MLB and the Wilpons to him. What did you expect him to say exactly? It was an ongoing lawsuit, there isn’t a GM in the world that would have said differently. Did you want him to tell an entire fan base and his own players that “hey, we’re in a lot of trouble here.” That isn’t exactly the best business idea.

When it comes to money issues I’m sorry but I would never expect any GM to open the books to the fans. None. I’d never expect any GM to openly say we have X to spend. Not in a free agent era where players/agents are trying to squeeze you for every penny.

No GM ever comes out and says “We have X to spend and no more or no less”

With regards to Reyes, again… I think you’re assuming the GM is a PR rep rather than a businessman. Jose Reyes was in their plans, at their price. They KNEW what he wanted, if they didn’t KNOW what Reyes wanted then guess what? Reyes and his agent are just as much to blame. Just because there was no official offer sheet doesn’t mean the Mets ignored Reyes. The Mets had Reyes in their plans at their price. And once again, what did you expect them to say?

“This homegrown Met is not in our future plans.” C’mon. That would never happen. For so many reasons but how about the fact if you ever wanted to trade him, his value just hits the basement because everybody knows he’s not coming back? If Reyes and his agent said 4 year/70mil, I’d bet anything he’d be on this team right now. So I don’t think its fair to just assume his statement was meant to be a lie.

GM’s publically rarely ever give you 100% truth’s. You’re supposed to read between the lines a little when it comes to what they say. If a GM came out and gave you his detailed plan for the franchise, every MLB team would know it and use it against them.

Sandy’s not interested in telling you or I what is going on with Jose Reyes. Because if he does, then he also just told every GM in the sport the same thing.

Ralph Kiner earlier said that Sandy should be GM of the year.

Just another idiot who loves sandy the guy, the well spoken ivy graduate who says the right thing,he’s done nothing for the franchise, but this guy who probably was under the booth the whole time sandy was there can’t seem to understand that… It’s really pathetic to root for a GM more than the franchise, this team is winning DESPITE the sabotage of the past offseason, but hey, let’s not bring that up, let’s focus on how well he speaks english, did you hear how well he combined those 2 words? I could give 3 craps about your lord sandy, i don’t care how well he dresses or speaks, you know what i care about? Winning.. And so far, this man NEVER seem to even uses those words, it’s as if is not in his all webster dictionary, why come here to bash us instead of admitting the man said nothing about helping the team or his struggles as a GM to HELP the team you and i root for WIN! huh? But of course, he’s the guy you adore and admire, so we won’t be reading anything negative about the guy from you now will we? SMH.

What I was saying was something similar to:

It’s easy to say you have to go to point A.
Another thing to know how to get there!

Or
Everyone Knows if you can make money by investing and making and having good investments is the key.
But another thing to know what IS a good investment and when it stops being one a time to sell.

Chemistry is an ethereal thing. Teams that win are said to have it and teams that don’t are said to have bad chemistry.

But you can have great chemistry and lose a ton of games and have bad chemistry and win a ton of games so it really doesn’t matter in that it’s another one of those subjective things no one can define or pin a tail on.

Which is why to answer your original question NO it doesn’t get taken into affect in Stat analysis and probably never will.

But it does probably get thought of after the math has been done. As it should.

As an example losing Ray Knight after 86 ruined the chemistry that made that season what it was…
He was not the big leader, He was not the big bat or glove, But he was a big part of thatb lockeroom and rallier of the troops when they were down and you can’t find that replacement in a spreadsheet

Murphy is part of that fighting spirit we have been seeing.Turner too! Wright is doing what he can to be a leader but even leaders need second fiddles and enforcers to help him do his job.

And I think Turner and Murphy play a real role in that chemistry based on the fact it started last year when the two of them played everyday and started showing everyone wityh a little effort you can play over .500 baseball even without Wright and Davis!

It’s impossible for HIM to comprehend let alone conceptualize the things Alderson Articulates at such a high and sophisticated level…
You know those nuggets of Wisdom like:

“trade talk picks up before the deadline” and “We need a Catcher, Bullpen help and RHB”.

Two things that no one on the planet but the great and powerful Alderson would know!

Hell we been asking for the first two (C and BP) for two years now! And RHB? Well DUH!

But he is just on a whole other level from the rest of the world…SO much so they mentioned him in a book about Billy Beane!

ROFLMAO!

They have no clue about what he is doing is the truth here and those that do are spoiling thier attempt at going through life like a corpsicle having all things decided for them!
They really don’t WANT to think about things so Sandy is a genius and we should stop thinking about what he does, if we don’t we are not part of the GROUP and should be cast out and ridiculed…

Yeah the day the stupid get the thinking to stop thinking and get with the program the world will end at 11!