18
2012
What Are The Odds That Jason Bay Is Still With The Mets In 2013?
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The hits just keep on coming for Jason Bay, and not in a good way. Yesterday, Terry Collins spoke to reporters before the game and said, ”I’m really worried about him”. Bay will be seeing a doctor today and the team will learn if he indeed suffered another concussion, his second in two years. When asked about the possibility of Bay missing the rest of the season, Collins responded, “anything’s possible.”
For now Bay is on the 7-day disabled list, but there is a strong possibility that he may have played his final game of the season. You may recall that Bay missed the final two months of 2010 after suffering his first concussion. A second concussion could keep him out longer than that and the Mets will make sure he doesn’t return until he becomes 100% symptom free.
It’s been one adversity after another for Bay ever since he signed his four-year, $66 million deal with the Mets. Whether it was fighting through his terrible slumps or missing time with a myriad of injuries, there hasn’t been much to smile about since his move from Beantown to New York. The frustration began almost immediately and has only snowballed since he first took the field as a Met in April of 2010.
Gone was his tremendous right-handed power. Gone was his great ability to drive in runs in droves. Gone was the intimidating presence in the middle of the lineup. All the things the Mets craved about him never materialized with his new team. Now at 33 and in the throws of a second debilitating concussion, the question many are now wondering is if we’ve seen the last of Jason Bay in 2012? And one more question to consider is this one: Despite one final year left on his ill-fated contract, will the Mets rely on him again in 2013 or will they simply cut him as they did with Luis Castillo and Oliver Perez?
Nobody wanted to see the Mets sign Jason Bay more than I did before the 2010 season. I kept holding out hope that he would turn it around, but how many years can one hang onto the same unfulfilled hope? I wish Bay a speedy recovery and truly hope he can comeback sooner than can reasonably be expected, but this is a different team than the one we had in 2010. Kirk Nieuwenhuis has emerged, Lucas Duda has become a legitimate power source, and soon Matt den Dekker will be knocking at the door.
Even before this latest setback for Jason Bay, I was already putting the odds of him returning in 2013 at less than 50/50. I’m not looking to kick a player and a great guy while he’s down, but I am curious to know how many of you think Jason Bay will be the Opening Day left fielder for the Mets in 2013.
Get well soon. Jason…
About the Author: Joe DeCaro
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Plain and simple, the biggest P0S we’ve ever had in NY… And it’s not even close…
Huge disappointment, absolutely. I can’t imagine anyone having an argument otherwise. Someone one will day will write a book about players that come to NY and just turn into Choo Choo Coleman.
Biggest POS? Really? How about a player in the clubhouse playing cards while your team is fighting for the playoffs – to me that is a POS. Maybe even the guy that punches his Father in law in front of children and other players families is a POS. The guy that meets a women between innings and takes care of himself could be considered a POS.
The guy that runs through a wall, twice, with no regard for his own safety to try and make a play is anything but of POS in my mind.
At least those players produced… You’re confusing being nice/rk with productivity.. Krod has never had any issues off the field (drunk, dui etc), he’s a loose cannon, but he produced… I am saying it in terms of contract and productivity on the field… He’s been the biggest bust we’ve ever had…. EVER!!!
That is the point I’m agreeing with you. He was a bust you are right, but that doesn’t make him a POS.
You just defended Bobby Bonilla and Rickey Henderson as Mets.
Again, in now way liked bonilla or rickey, or the actions of Krod, in terms of FA he’s been the biggest P0S we’ve ever had because he’s done nothing for this franchise… In terms of productivity bonilla at least hit 34 HR’s as a met once and Rickey was a big part of the mets when he wasn’t playing cards… You call it Bust, i call jason bay a Piece of sh**!!!
That’s right – Ricky had a tremendous season for the 99 Mets and was one of the reasons for their success. The other stuff? That’s another subject.
until it suits you. Then you’ll make the argument about hustle and veteran leadership. And then you’ll slink away and claim that it is not the topic being discussed.
right, i HATE Rickey Henderson. He jaked it in the 80s and i hated him then but he still had a great season in 1999 and was one of the main reasons for the Mets success. I was also in the stands the day he hit the ball off the wall in LCF and jogged out of the box and got only a single and I booed with the rest of the crowd. He deserved to be released.
Now the donal style of answer and it will be something like this:
…are you saying that every single person booed Henderson that day?
That’s the donal/jessep or “jessal” or “donep” type of answer that leads to 200 comments in a post.
I was at that game too Bayonne, back in 2000. He was gone soon after that.
Calling someone a POS is attacking them as a person.
I view attacks like that on Bay as the same as attacks on Castillo. Both of them seemed like good guys who just stopped being good at baseball. That is not a crime and it is not a character defect.
I agree with Alex here. Bay has been the biggest bust as a free agent. Alex just uses POS to mean the same as bust in his case. I will say though that technically if we are talking about free agents I would say Ollie was the worst but it’s hard to separate that he did at least do some good as a Met before they resigned him.
Again, you are defending jason bay the player or the guy? i can care less what players do off the field to be honest, they are human beings just like each one of us therefore mistakes will be made etc.. But as a player the guy has been HORRIBLE, he’s been the worst FA we’ve ever had, now, i don’t condone the fans for boooing him after the concussion on friday, but the man has been just the worst… Not even one year he’s played well… hell, not even a month….
There really is no call to refer to any player as a POS. You would be better off in your life by striking it from your vocabulary.
what about john rocker? he was the biggest POS in baseball.i have no problem calling him that.
Ashamed of you Alex68. In actuality the biggest POS is you.
Just out of curiousity, were you one of those people booing Bay as he was being helped off the field? I wouldn’t be surprised.
who the hell will take his remaining year of the contract??? so yes i think Jason will be a met 2013
Mariners (only if the Mets can take Figgins off their hands. Yeah, not happening!) and A’s immediately come to mind.
If Bay doesn’t make it back at all this season, then I’m thinking he may very well have played his last game as a NY Met.
bay is giving it all for the franchise , well it isnt enough but he fights every time he is out there. its not his fault the mets agreed to sign him for that much money
Sad case here. It will be interesting to watch Brian Roberts as he returns from his concussion injury of 13 months. I hope these two men make time to compare notes.
This story will not have a happy ending. This may be the worst free agent signing of all time for the Mets.
I don’t think there is any chance he is a Met in 2013.
and if this concussion is as serious as it seems it could be (repeat offenders get way more time to recover), then it is very likely that he may have played his last game period, not just for the Mets.
at best, he may come to ST but wash out there.
so my guess, they part ways, and he may just decide to retire instead of trying to play elsewhere after all the head issues.
Best case scenario for Bay and the Mets is for Bay to call it quits and the Mets buy out his contract at something less than $16 mil. He has plenty of $$ to live a long and healthy life.
A sensible Idea. Like a divorce it won’t come cheap.
Hi Hey,
Mike Francesa pointed out the possibility that the Mets could have insurance that would take care of Bay’s remaining salary if he is unable to play anymore. Am sure the organization would rather not save money in that manner but sadly it might open up more roster money for Sandy to use.
I saw that Joey – that can be HUGE and will probably be the subject of a post here. Right now that, and i hate to say it, could be the best thing to happen to the Mets and their dilemma on what to do with Jason Bay.
If Mets recoup big money on this and using it to improve the team – that would be much better odds to get into the post season than waiting for Bay to come back and then hoping he returns to form. To me it’s a no brainer – they have to have a private talk with him.
I suspect that the Mets have insurance on him, which is good for them and Bay.
I met Bay in May 2010 – what a nice person. Very genuine. Ad hominem attacks reveal more about the speaker that the target of the attack.
Bay’s defense, for the most part, was better than expected. His offense, when you combine Beltran & Reyes’ occasional absences, killed us. Once he found his groove, he could never sustain it. He seriously doesn’t appear as if he’ll regain his best form or any semblance thereof.
Its all just a damn pity, if you ask me.
“ad hominem”
Hey Tommy,
Use simple words we can all understand like “that”, “this” and “the”!
I wasn’t aware that the Mets had insurance. Was he speculating or speaking as a matter of fact?
Hi Joe,
Francesa was speculating. That’s why I mentioned he pointed it out as a possibility.
Third parties stopped insuring long to term deals a while ago. Now, teams either get those deals insured for 2 years at a time (and renew at the company’s discretion) or they have to self insure them.
As long as we are on the topic of being a POS, i think we cal all agree that Francesa is the biggest POS of all!!
At this point, everything about Jason before this seems so unimportant. The money, the disappointments, etc. – trivial when compared to one busting his skull going against a wall.
If we want to talk about Bay’s performance as a Met, nothing changes. He was a bust. But it’s best to separate one situation from the other and know there is a time and a place for each. Concussions can have long-term effects and in the future he will always have to keep a watch on this, medically. That’s a scary thing in itself.
There’s a 95% chance he won’t be back in a Mets uniform by the end of the season.
Something happened to Jason Bay, and I don’t think we will ever really know. It’s a real shame too, if you ask Pirates fans, they loved Bay. Absolutely loved him.
Let me be clear, I like(d) Bay. I have never seen him do anything wrong as a person or the effort he puts forth.
I honestly have no clue what happened to him. You can’t say it was the money because the guy made almost $20mil prior to coming to the Mets. Heck, his 2010 Mets salary was LESS than his 2009 salary with the Red Sox.
Playing in NY? Sure, but lets be serious… Red Sox fans put just as much if not more pressure on their players as Mets fans do. So I don’t think that’s fair to say.
The stadium? Maybe… but the stadium doesn’t follow you on the road. Plus the stadium factor wouldn’t take you from a 70 ish RBI pace to about half of that.
I’ve personally never seen a player go from 6 years with an average of 30 HR 99 RBI .280 average .894 OPS to 3 years with an average of .246 .715 OPS 7HR 37 RBI.
It’s such a drastic decline in such a short period of time.
I’d like to say it was that 1st concussion in July of 2010 but Bay was 14 of 72 before that happened. Prior to July of 2010, Bay was looking like a .275 hitter on pace for roughly 10 HR and 70 RBI. Respectable, but not very good.
So the elephant in the room…
Now I hate to be that guy but the only time you see dramatic drops like that is with regards to steroid/ped users.
I’m not a big steroid finger pointer. But we have to at least admit there’s a CHANCE this is the case right?
Frankly, I don’t frown upon players who took or take them because I don’t think we will ever know how level the playing field really was.
I think there is a CHANCE Bay’s production got halted due to this but then he became the player we see today because of the concussions.
We’ll never know how a player at age 31 can just become a minor league talent after years of solid production.
I could be wrong, and I’m not flat out accusing him… but you have to consider its a possibility no?
A truly disgusting post by the person who starts off proclaiming to know nothing…
jessup…starts by saying he knows nothing about why Bay went down the tube but has no problem making accusations about Bay using steroids. You truly are what Alex68 called Bay. Jessup you are the # 1 POS around. And if you don’t frown upon it, then you are a bigger POS for even bringing it up.
thanks Amazin!
Amazin, i am glad you (others will follow) see this guy for what he is.. It shows the type of characther he is, i am ghoping everyone see him for the truly slimey snake he is….
Most despicable person in this site imo…