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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m pretty sure the writer of the post. was the one who said we “had a good day” when we signed Rauch and Francisco and then uttered something about a “great hot stove season” for Alderson&quot;

No Kmaxx, it was that other guy.. you know, the one who know it all, or thinks he know it all...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m pretty sure the writer of the post. was the one who said we “had a good day” when we signed Rauch and Francisco and then uttered something about a “great hot stove season” for Alderson&#8221;</p>
<p>No Kmaxx, it was that other guy.. you know, the one who know it all, or thinks he know it all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: K Maxx</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/06/ranking-the-mets-bullpen.html#comment-259087</link>
		<dc:creator>K Maxx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahhh… there is no way a guy with a 4.97ERA should be our highest ranked reliever.

You forget these are the Amazing Mets and we have an Amazing Revamped Bullpen. Remember?  I&#039;m pretty sure the writer of the post. was the one who said we &quot;had a good day&quot; when we signed Rauch and Francisco and then uttered something about a &quot;great hot stove season&quot; for Alderson.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh… there is no way a guy with a 4.97ERA should be our highest ranked reliever.</p>
<p>You forget these are the Amazing Mets and we have an Amazing Revamped Bullpen. Remember?  I&#8217;m pretty sure the writer of the post. was the one who said we &#8220;had a good day&#8221; when we signed Rauch and Francisco and then uttered something about a &#8220;great hot stove season&#8221; for Alderson.</p>
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		<title>By: USMF</title>
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		<dc:creator>USMF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ahhh... there is no way a guy with a 4.97ERA should be our highest ranked reliever.  

Being on the leader board in saves is not something special.  getting a save as a closer is like getting a &quot;quality start&quot; as a starter...it&#039;s what you&#039;re supposed to be doing!  Here have a cookie and sit down...There are nine closers who have as many saves or more as Frankie.  His three blown saves and three losses aren&#039;t a pretty stat either...

I know you can&#039;t be one every game, but who here feels confident when Frankie is called on to close a game?...me neither... 

Sadly, nobody really makes me feel too good in that pen.  Bobby can look great at times, but it looks like he&#039;s still trying to learn how to be a pitcher and not a thrower.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhh&#8230; there is no way a guy with a 4.97ERA should be our highest ranked reliever.  </p>
<p>Being on the leader board in saves is not something special.  getting a save as a closer is like getting a &#8220;quality start&#8221; as a starter&#8230;it&#8217;s what you&#8217;re supposed to be doing!  Here have a cookie and sit down&#8230;There are nine closers who have as many saves or more as Frankie.  His three blown saves and three losses aren&#8217;t a pretty stat either&#8230;</p>
<p>I know you can&#8217;t be one every game, but who here feels confident when Frankie is called on to close a game?&#8230;me neither&#8230; </p>
<p>Sadly, nobody really makes me feel too good in that pen.  Bobby can look great at times, but it looks like he&#8217;s still trying to learn how to be a pitcher and not a thrower.</p>
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		<title>By: Joey D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joey D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 18:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Craig,

- &quot;I’ve seen enough of Jon Rauch this season to realize that last season wasn’t just an off year for him. Instead it was an indication that his career was in steep decline and most of the important metrics backed that up.&quot;

Interesting thought because this is a front office that is supposed to count heavily on metrics to help in the decision making and does that mean they ignored what you say the important ones backed up?

- &quot;Bobby Parnell is an enigma. Such incredible metrics and such disastrous results when called upon to close out a game. How can someone who looks so good on paper perform so badly in the ninth? Maybe there’s something to this clutch thing? Nah.&quot;

Actually &quot;yeah&quot;, not &quot;nah&quot;, because metrics is an analysis of probabilities according to mathematical analysis that are possible but highly improbable when applied to professional sports as opposed to the study of measurements, properties and relationship formulas applied to scientific, physical and other areas that deal in absolutes and certainties.  When dealing in competitive athletics, the only thing certain is uncertainity and those astute in these uncertainities are the ones better equipped to deal with them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Craig,</p>
<p>- &#8220;I’ve seen enough of Jon Rauch this season to realize that last season wasn’t just an off year for him. Instead it was an indication that his career was in steep decline and most of the important metrics backed that up.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting thought because this is a front office that is supposed to count heavily on metrics to help in the decision making and does that mean they ignored what you say the important ones backed up?</p>
<p>- &#8220;Bobby Parnell is an enigma. Such incredible metrics and such disastrous results when called upon to close out a game. How can someone who looks so good on paper perform so badly in the ninth? Maybe there’s something to this clutch thing? Nah.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually &#8220;yeah&#8221;, not &#8220;nah&#8221;, because metrics is an analysis of probabilities according to mathematical analysis that are possible but highly improbable when applied to professional sports as opposed to the study of measurements, properties and relationship formulas applied to scientific, physical and other areas that deal in absolutes and certainties.  When dealing in competitive athletics, the only thing certain is uncertainity and those astute in these uncertainities are the ones better equipped to deal with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 17:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve said it before...Bautista is your late inning guy because the rest of the pen is NOT!

Rauch has been a disaster....
Ramirez too so far (can he fix himself? Who knows but the place to see it he could was in AAA during a rehab stint not on the MLB roster where Wins get put on the line. He has looked rusty and he should have not been rushed up until he showed his ability to pitch well. Then at least you might have enough confidence in him to trust him in a game that counts.

Byrdak is fine provided you only pitch him vs lefties but since he is the only guy who can do that you have to be sure to pick the correct lefty because he is not going to make it through to the next one.

Parnell has had some very bad fielding skewing his numbers. Yes he should be used more but thats not going to happen while Francisco is down.

As for ranking them it seems a fruitless proposition...
Even if you rank them the difference is so small that it really isn&#039;t worth it.
No matter who you put in you seem to have a 50/50 at best (and really much worse odds) that they will get the job done.

It&#039;s time to see who from the minors not named Harvey and Wheeler can serve an MLB purpose aside from being a starter because once those two come up there will be no room anywhere else for them but the pen.
So it&#039;s time to start trying out those guys who do not project to being MLB starters and give them a shot in the 7th and 8th.

The guys we have are just not going to cut it!
Parnell Byrdakl and Francisco are about all that has even a smidgen of shot at being on the roster next year!
And truth is anyone of them could be dealt in a deal to get those guys like Street who everyone seems to think is going to be made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said it before&#8230;Bautista is your late inning guy because the rest of the pen is NOT!</p>
<p>Rauch has been a disaster&#8230;.<br />
Ramirez too so far (can he fix himself? Who knows but the place to see it he could was in AAA during a rehab stint not on the MLB roster where Wins get put on the line. He has looked rusty and he should have not been rushed up until he showed his ability to pitch well. Then at least you might have enough confidence in him to trust him in a game that counts.</p>
<p>Byrdak is fine provided you only pitch him vs lefties but since he is the only guy who can do that you have to be sure to pick the correct lefty because he is not going to make it through to the next one.</p>
<p>Parnell has had some very bad fielding skewing his numbers. Yes he should be used more but thats not going to happen while Francisco is down.</p>
<p>As for ranking them it seems a fruitless proposition&#8230;<br />
Even if you rank them the difference is so small that it really isn&#8217;t worth it.<br />
No matter who you put in you seem to have a 50/50 at best (and really much worse odds) that they will get the job done.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to see who from the minors not named Harvey and Wheeler can serve an MLB purpose aside from being a starter because once those two come up there will be no room anywhere else for them but the pen.<br />
So it&#8217;s time to start trying out those guys who do not project to being MLB starters and give them a shot in the 7th and 8th.</p>
<p>The guys we have are just not going to cut it!<br />
Parnell Byrdakl and Francisco are about all that has even a smidgen of shot at being on the roster next year!<br />
And truth is anyone of them could be dealt in a deal to get those guys like Street who everyone seems to think is going to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex in CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have some players coming off great seasons that are off to not so great start in Juan Lagares and Darin Gorski. I&#039;m sure they are still both attractive enough to get Street if the Padres simply want to shed his salary. Also, I actually like the fact Street has $9million option for 2013. He&#039;s a bonafide closer and that&#039;s a fair price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have some players coming off great seasons that are off to not so great start in Juan Lagares and Darin Gorski. I&#8217;m sure they are still both attractive enough to get Street if the Padres simply want to shed his salary. Also, I actually like the fact Street has $9million option for 2013. He&#8217;s a bonafide closer and that&#8217;s a fair price.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex in CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex in CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree on Mejia. Not so sure I&#039;d trade him for Street even with his value being down. I think we&#039;d have to give up both Carson AND Cohoon to get it done otherwise anything less would be to easy for another team to top.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree on Mejia. Not so sure I&#8217;d trade him for Street even with his value being down. I think we&#8217;d have to give up both Carson AND Cohoon to get it done otherwise anything less would be to easy for another team to top.</p>
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		<title>By: stick</title>
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		<dc:creator>stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[street for picking up the $ and a couple filler pieces?  Do it today.  If not sooner.

but not sure i would consider trading Mejia to be throwing them a bone!  Cahoon or Carson?  sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>street for picking up the $ and a couple filler pieces?  Do it today.  If not sooner.</p>
<p>but not sure i would consider trading Mejia to be throwing them a bone!  Cahoon or Carson?  sure.</p>
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		<title>By: stick</title>
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		<dc:creator>stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you don&#039;t need both, except for the fact that Terry somehow thinks Batista is a late inning guy, not the long man.

and to me, ramirez falling off the cliff is the real killer.  rauch, that was a roll of the dice hoping he could rebound, and they came up craps.

But, it would have mattered a lot less if ramirez was even just having a year about the same as 2010 or 2011.  that to me (unlike rauch) was nto expected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you don&#8217;t need both, except for the fact that Terry somehow thinks Batista is a late inning guy, not the long man.</p>
<p>and to me, ramirez falling off the cliff is the real killer.  rauch, that was a roll of the dice hoping he could rebound, and they came up craps.</p>
<p>But, it would have mattered a lot less if ramirez was even just having a year about the same as 2010 or 2011.  that to me (unlike rauch) was nto expected.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have to admit I saw the title and just LOL, thinking &#039;lousy&#039;.

Read it though and see it&#039;s more your ranking of what we currently have.

- Hampson I think, is a little early to tell.
- Rauch has not been effective at all but lately has been victimized by poor defense.
- Batista is just totally misused - or even not necessary.  To me, he&#039;s a mop up, low leverage type who can give you multiple innings.  
- You left out Hefner, who if I&#039;m not mistaken is serving the same role as Batista.  So what do we need both for?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to admit I saw the title and just LOL, thinking &#8216;lousy&#8217;.</p>
<p>Read it though and see it&#8217;s more your ranking of what we currently have.</p>
<p>- Hampson I think, is a little early to tell.<br />
- Rauch has not been effective at all but lately has been victimized by poor defense.<br />
- Batista is just totally misused &#8211; or even not necessary.  To me, he&#8217;s a mop up, low leverage type who can give you multiple innings.<br />
- You left out Hefner, who if I&#8217;m not mistaken is serving the same role as Batista.  So what do we need both for?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter R.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2012 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is one sorry ass bullpen. Ranking the Mets bullpen is akin to ranking inmates at cell block six.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one sorry ass bullpen. Ranking the Mets bullpen is akin to ranking inmates at cell block six.</p>
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