Mets Surrender Three Homers, But Hold On To 6-4 Win Over Yankees

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• Russell Zanca June 22, 2012 at 11:16 pm

  No, we didn’t glide to victory, but this one was absolutely massive. A huge confidence boost for our boys. They will begin to get that “we-can-beat-anybody mentality. Love it!
• Des June 22, 2012 at 11:18 pm

  “Frank Francisco game into the ninth and got his 18th save of the season despite a walk and a base hit. Cluck? Cluck?”

  Yes!!!
• srt June 22, 2012 at 11:28 pm

  Good thing we got those 5 runs early in the 1st.

  Win tonight guarantees they’re not coming into our house and sweeping us.

  Let’s make it a series win tomorrow, Young.
• sarge69 June 22, 2012 at 11:30 pm

  Niese always seems to buckle down when he gets into jams and tonight he did the same.
  Balls that Yanks hit were high so I hope that since Young pitches up in zone, at times that is how he gets lots of fly balls and pop ups, that it doesn’t hurt team.

  I say that a fine is assessed by kangaroo court in clubhouse for players that catch a ball with one hand, with two outs, in the 9th inning of a winning game against Yankees from now till the Yanks return the favor and have their own “Castillo” movement.

  Great win, great job by Niese and great way to take it to AP in first inning plus I will not complain about about Turner hitting between Duda and Ike again cause TC knew more than me when I was saying that Turner should bat 2nd and Cedeno lower in order!

  That is why he gets paid the manager bucks and I vent for free on MMO
• oleosmirf June 22, 2012 at 11:34 pm

  I don’t care what his numbers are since May 17th, Francisco is not a real closer. Good 8th inning guy, but we are going to need a closer, if they want to make the playoffs…

  Great win, nonetheless…
• Joey D. June 22, 2012 at 11:35 pm

  On post game Bobby O. was talking about Francisco’s nerves of steel and how effective he has been since mid-May.

  I just don’t know if Francisco’s performances are going to be cliffhangers with pleasant endings or that he’s playing with fire and again the fires he creates are again going to catch up with him. Let’s not forgot the first out was a shot that was run-down by Torres. KRod put us through that often but usually got the job done.

  If this is the way Francisco is going to do it, OK. I’m just not sure yet if he can put out his own fires.
• sarge69 June 23, 2012 at 12:12 am

  Does Armando Benitez ring a bell here?

  If, BIG IF, this team is to go past a one game playoff that will most assuredly rest on FF’s arm, then this continued performance of his is going to cost us whether it is one game or not.

  I know that TC and Warthen have to show confidence in him to keep his head on straight but as bad as this BP has been, really Batista in 6th against Cano; where was Byrdak? is he hurt cause he has not pitched in awhile?

  This is a game to celebrate Niese, in spite of 2 HR, because he showed his continued nerves of steel to work out of jams yet he has to work on keeping his pitch count down so at least he can join the working til 7th inning crowd that seems to be the trend.

  This BP will be the sum and total of how far this team goes cause starters are 3rd in ERA in league, two out hitting is best in league and team never gives up with Ike now returning to form and Turner providing his clutch hitting we just need to get Cap Kirk playing more against lesser LH pitchers to get him used to hitting lefties so that he can be full time CF and Torres be defense replacement, PR as needed

  Lastly I have to give TC AND his staff the credit for pushing the right buttons with the lineup.
  Every time I/We see the baby Mets playing we see a lost game but even the bench has contributed to win, look at Cedeno with hit in 1st inning, but it is a long summer and I hope that BP gets fixed maybe with call up of Beato, Harvey, Mejia?
  • Metsie June 23, 2012 at 10:51 am

    Sarge I only wish he was as reliable as Benitez!
• Mr North Jersey June 23, 2012 at 12:13 am

  OK so the Mets avoid getting swept at least so there is that.

  Once again another lineup comes through on the field despite concerns when viewed on paper. Nice 5 run 1st that the Yanks just could not overcome. Props to Mr Davis on the back breaker 3 run HR.

  Niese pitched another solid outing bending but not breaking as he went 6 1/3 giving up just 2 runs.

  Finally hat tip to Mr “I feel like chicken tonight” Francisco. At $5.5M this season he has done the job for the most part overall. Now with tonight’s game Francisco over his last 15 appearances has gone 15.1/IP, 10/SV, 1/BS, 7/BB, 16/SO and a 1.76/ERA.

  Nice win now let’s follow up with another one 2morrow and try to sweep these Yanks.

  LGM!
  • Mr North Jersey June 23, 2012 at 12:31 am

    Favorite part was listening to Michael Kay cry as he said “Francisco survives his ridiculous comment” as the Mets won the game.

    Cue baby crying effect.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xRrUVVKigk
  • Joey D. June 23, 2012 at 10:58 am

    One thing, North, is that Francisco has not been making it easy. Many of those ninth innings he’s had us on the edge of our seats till the final out.

    That is not meant as a knock as it is a genuine concern because stats are deceiving and he still has to prove to us that he can get in and out of trouble in the ninth in the consistent fashion like the Francisco he replaced. He nearly blew the game against Baltimore and even last night he was saved by Torres running down a shot to deep dead center. If that went for extra bases, the game could have eventually been tied with the walk and single that followed.

    And we don’t know if Francisco has the composure to deal with the games late in the season with the season possibly on the line. I would be OK if the saves aren’t easy but he comes through. It’s still just a wait and see thing.
    • Mr North Jersey June 23, 2012 at 12:16 pm

      Hi Joey D, of course any fan would want it an easy 1-2-3 but having watched Franco/Wagner/Benitez/KRod through the years 1-2-3 innings have not often been the norm eventually you have to recognize iF the job getting done.

      And that is all I was doing here. When all is said and done he has gotten the job done of late. 15.1/IP, 10/SV, 1/BS, 7/BB, 16/SO and a 1.76/ERA. Has it been the shutdown type variety? Obviously not but if I am going to call him out when he blows a save (which i have) I am going to recognize him when I feel it is deserved.

      Hopefully your concerns are put at ease and Francisco makes the 9th innings more comfortable for you.

      Have a nice day Joey D.
      • Joey D. June 23, 2012 at 12:30 pm

        I know, North,

        Its just not knowing down the stretch (and YES, there will be a down the stretch with these guys!) if he will be more like Benitez or KRod that’s getting to me. I’ll take a 1-single-2-single-walk-3 inning every day even if my heart can’t!

        It’s gorgeous out side- yes, do take advantage of it. Then settle back for the game tonight.

        Joey D.
        • Mr North Jersey June 23, 2012 at 12:45 pm

          Hey Joey D, I just want to share this excerpt with you cause it is not often I read someone in the media express so closely similar thoughts that I have shared.

          “When you get past all of the “chicken talk” you see that Francisco has been one of the best closers in the league for the last five weeks, and the numbers prove it. Since May 14th, he has converted 10 of his 11 save chances with a sparkling 1.76 ERA, giving up only three earned runs in his last 15 innings of work. I am sure that Mets fans could do with less drama from him, but he has gotten the job done, and that’s all you can ask from your closer.”
          – Rich Coutinho

          http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/23/coutinho-chickengate-is-much-ado-about-nothing/

          I knew there was a reason I liked that Coutinho guy.

          Have a good one Joey D.
          • Joey D. June 23, 2012 at 12:53 pm

            Hi North,

            Thanks for the excerpt.

            Hey, I go back to the days of Jack “hair breath Harry” Hamilton so I should be used to these type of things already, right?

            That chicken stuff is should not to be taken seriously because I doubt either club does and doesn’t need anything tacked up to motivate them.

            One of the more funnier lines I remember coming from a pitcher regarding other hitters is what Whitey Ford had posted on Willie May’s locker during the ’62 or ’63 all-star game. He said “sorry I didn’t make the team this year but Houk didn’t want me to make you look bad!” Of course, the joke was Willie having Whitey’s number in previous all star contests and post season.
          • Metsie June 23, 2012 at 2:52 pm

            Thats kind of like Saying Ike Davis is the batting champ ove the last two weeks…

            When you remove everything before the last screwup it’s pretty easy to make someone look like they are world beaters.

            The only difference I see is that he isn’t giving up that last RBI hit he was giving up 5 weeks ago.

            And I’ll give him props for not doing so, But he is still a heart attack whenever you see him walk to the mound.
            and anything less than a 2 run lead and you really have to worry.
            • Joey D. June 23, 2012 at 3:02 pm

              “But he is still a heart attack whenever you see him walk to the mound.”

              Hi Metsie,

              And every time he takes the mount I could just envision Fred Sanford saying “it’s the big one, Elizabeth!”
      • Fonzie13 June 23, 2012 at 2:03 pm

        They posted the same stats on MLB Net and the ERA was even lower at 1.26.
        • Mr North Jersey June 23, 2012 at 2:25 pm

          Yes the ERA would be 1.26 if MLB used his last 14 appearances which begin on May 17th rather than the last 15 appearances which begin on May 14th.
          • Fonzie13 June 23, 2012 at 3:14 pm

            He also had 4 consecutive 1.2.3 innings in that span, so it’s not like he’s been a heart attack every time out. He’s also only been responsible for 3 losses out of his 31 appearances. 4 if you wanna count the 14-6 game against ATL when Dickey had his only bad start but that game was out of reach before he came in. So out of 31 appearances only 3 of them have led to losses. The problem has been when he gives it up he gives it up pretty bad, making his ERA look worse than he is. He’s not much different than most closers not named Mariano when you look at each game log he’s pitched in. When K-Rod signed he had the lowest 1..2.3 inning rate out of all the closers on the free agent market. We should be used to these tight rope acts from our closers, dating back to John Franco. Even Orosco and McDowell were high wire acts in the 86 post season run. It could be worse, we could’ve signed Heath Bell or Coco Cordero.
            • Mr North Jersey June 23, 2012 at 3:18 pm

              Thanks for the info Fonzie.
• gary s. June 23, 2012 at 12:21 am

  Why is Batista on the team, let alone the 8th inning guy?Collins cannot be serious..
  • Even Flow June 23, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Batista probably will only be here until the deadline, where either he’ll be traded or replaced by someone from AAA.
• sarge69 June 23, 2012 at 12:38 am

  Wow with a staff of No Han, RA, Niese, Gee, Young, an assortment that included Pelf, Hefner, Batista,etc, this team is 2nd in Majors in staff ERA at 3.48!

  Who on this team, fan base, etc would have imagined that this would happen?

  I for one did not expect this but I feel that with No Han’s return injury free plus 1st no hitter in in Mets history, RA’s re-invention of the soft knuckle ball into a hard one that he can make dance, plus maturation of Niese, Gee and return of Young that there is now consistency in staff on a day to day basis and it seems their challenge to each others in starts has made them a better pitching staff.
  • Metsie June 23, 2012 at 10:52 am

    How much of that has to do with the missing lack of consistency from Pelfrey?
• Bill June 23, 2012 at 1:43 am

  Completely disgusted with Kevin Burkhardt on his preface interview with Fatcessa. He allowed the whale to state “David Wright is not a leader” and said nothing. Way to put your career butt-kissing first and let that hack spew his crap uncontested
  • Metsie June 23, 2012 at 10:59 am

    Well Bill Let me put it to you in a manner you might get the sentiment…

    Hernandez was a LEADER….
    Is Wright even half the leader Hernandez was?

    Wright is the leader here, he is the guy they go to, look up to…
    But that is as much by default because he is all there is,

    That said he has shown some attempt to be the leader, go talk to the Pitcher, Talk to the Ump after Davis throws a little fit for striking out looking, being the front man to the press in addition to his usual lead with his bat.

    Ask me again in 2 years (if he is still here) if he is a leader or not.
    This is his first year as leader and it’s only because we traded the leader away last july!
    Right now he is just starting to show some signs of being willing where before he would defer the position to someone else.
    • Joey D. June 23, 2012 at 1:11 pm

      Agree Metsie,

      David was always available to the media but that did not make him a leader in the true sense. And nobody should take that as a knock against him no matter what Francesa tried to imply for some players are and some players aren’t.

      However, as you say, David is showing signs of taking over the role with these young kids and perhaps it is now his time as he has grown and matured into a young veteran.

      I hope he’s here for many more seasons too and can’t conceive the front office forcing him to walk but then, by the end of last June when the Mets were surprising everybody being in the wildcard hunt and exciting us as much as they are now, I couldn’t conceive the front office not reversing it’s earlier positions regarding KRod followed by Beltran so at this point, who really knows?

      We might get a better sense if we are still in it and the front office sticks by it’s earlier stance of not to expect a big signing over the summer. If they don’t spend in another month even for a rental (and that means more in terms of cash than a high ranking prospect) that in itself might give us a better idea of what to expect down the road – the issue being money more than a competitive team. For a team like the Mets playing in the biggest market in America, that shouldn’t even be an issue – but as we know, it is.
• gary s. June 23, 2012 at 6:58 am

  Let’s grill some more chicken, er i mean the Yankees today and tomorrow..