Hope they lift your ban from the shout box soon.

Here’s the reason – he’s a number 3 hitter up with a runner in scoring position on 2B.

No wonder you have long 455 comment threads made up of 5 paragraphs to explain a ground out.

Cue Twilight Zone music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzlG28B-R8Y

If the scenario you suggest was what actually did occur, that implies the manager assumed his number three hitter knew better and felt there was no need to give him the signal to hit away – which means runner on second, nobody out, bottom of the seventh, trailing by one run and he did nothing but leave it up to his player.

The Manager did not tell his number 3 hitter to move the runner over.

Jesus Christ!

Hi Bayonne,

Don’t know if you are referring to me but since I was the one brought up the question to begin with I was not going to accuse David of going against his manager’s decision and took it upon himself to move the runner over instead. Making such a statement would insinuate a lack of respect for the manager on David’s part. It would also conjecture that Terry does not have disciplinary control over his players, which would then be another unfair accusation.

So unless there is evidence to the contrary one cannot look to one other than the manager for calling the shot. And unless Davis misread the sign that would imply the existence of a disciplinary problem or lack of respect for the manager if it wasn’tf Terry who told him to move the runner over. I personally don’t for a minute think it was just a bad at-bat.

And while he is probably doing it as best as he can he is not a leader in the sense of a Hernandez or Carter was and thats what this team needs.”

I think that explains it best.

And also we hear the Wright leader talk pop up every single season and what happens every single season? The players flock to someone else. Happened last year when they went to Beltran and not Wright and it happens every year. And also these people who claim you have to be in the dugout to be able to notice that can’t tell that maybe Wright is not as popular among his team mates as other players. Do they know that? NO. Do I know that? NO but it’s my guess because why else would the players look for leadership from someone else every single season?

There was never any doubt who was leading this team in 86!
Hernandez was it and he did it as much on the field as in the dugout!
You could see it!

You think Wright is a leader the way Hernandez was?

If not then he’s not as much a leader as you guys assume he is!

And by the same token saying he doesn’t know cause he is not there in the clubhouse works both ways doesn’t it?
Your not there either so your assumtion that he is leading them is just as invalid!

David is leading because he is the only one left anyone can turn to!

And while he is probably doing it as best as he can he is not a leader in the sense of a Hernandez or Carter was and thats what this team needs.

Leaders don’t jog on groundballs, jog on the bases, choke in big spots and shrink the more important the games get, and he’s not a very smart player too. He’s just a good hitter with rare occasional moments in the sun thats it. Derek Jeter may be the enemy but he is a definite leader and if you have kids you point to Derek Jeter when you want to talk about playing the game the correct way and leading by EXAMPLE not designation. And Derek Jeter runs hard on ground balls and would have the smarts to know that it’s his job to get a hit and drive in a run with a runner on 2nd and not do something stupid like a number 3 hitter sacrificing himself to move a runner on 2nd over – if in fact Wright did decide to do that and if he did – boy oh boy he’s dumber than i thought.

That’s different than stating Terry Collins told Wright to move the runner over. That’s just false and he should have said in his OPINION, so forth. I’m not in the dugout but i can see the way David Wright plays the game and his past performance he’s no leader. He may be some kind of leader to some of these band of over achievers (even though he shouldn’t be because of the way he plays) but don’t tell the starting pitching that.

That’s different than stating Terry Collins told Wright to move the runner over. That’s just false and he should have said in his OPINION, so forth. I’m not in the dugout but i can see the way David Wright plays the game and his past performance he’s no leader. He may be some kind of leader to some of these band of over achievers (even though he shouldn’t be because of the way he plays) but don’t tell the starting pitching that.

Although not as ridiculous a proposition, saying that David Wright is not a leader as a matter of fact, when you have never stepped foot in the dugout or in the clubhouse follows the same logic as well.

David has not been coming through on some early game RBI opportunities that would put less pressure on team late in game, his at at bat late in game getting runners over to 2nd and 3rd are not what he gets paid the buck for!

BP once again, how many losses does Rauch have now? Given up two game winning HR to Yankees here and at Yankee Stadium, he is killing this team so why is he in so many high pressure situations lately?

My guess is he thought it was a fastball, saw mid pitch it wasn’t and tried to correct meaning more strength went into changing the bat plane than hitting the ball harder…

Thats exactly the definition of rolling over on a pitch.

Expect a fastball but get a slower pitch you have try and slow down the swing so you can keep the bat head in the zone long enough for the pitch to make contact with it and by slowing down your not swinging as hard as you normally do.

Hey, I could be completely wrong – I’m not a professional, but it is a legit question as to whether that’s the way the at-bat turned out or if it was designed that way. And that decision has to come from the manager. If it didn’t, as I said before, that’s an issue Terry has to take with David behind closed doors.

When you take ownership of this site you can then tell people what they can and cannot reply to, until then, too bad.

I did post a baseball opinion on what happened, sorry you’re too ignorant and lack reading comprehension to understand.

Taking the liberty to say Terry Collins told Wright to move the runner over is different than me saying Wright is no leader – which he is NOT.

Stay the HELL out of my conversations because you make me puke so go back and do what you do best whatever the hell it is you mutt

So I agree much ado bout nothin here.

Wright simply got fooled on a pitch, thought it was a fastball, was a breaking ball, got ahead in his swing and rolled over on it.

We can still win the series today which is a GREAT accomplishment considering who we are playing.
The Yanks are 42-28 for a damn good reason!

To win the series is more than enough accomplishment if you ask me lets just hope Dickey has more magic missing bats than Sabbathia does today!

We go to Chicago next to play a team we should sweep followed by what will be the most important road series we have…4 games vs the ML 2nd Best Dodgers.

If we can sweep the cubs (twice before the ASG) Win the series vs the Phils and at least split the series vs the Dodgers we will be in a very good position at the time of the All Star Break.

And this not sweeping the Yanks while less sweet really won’t matter much when all is said and done.

Just like the other day when you said “Naturally David Wright is not a leader”, clearly that is your opinion, not fact, since you’re not in the clubhouse and others are not in the dugout.

It is MY opinion, that he tried to get a hit and it just didn’t work out as planned, but it can certainly be talked to death, since that never happened around here.