18
2012
Mets All-Time Team Unveiled
Last night in Manhattan and via Twitter, SNY announced the Mets All-Time Team.
As is usually the case with these types of lists, some of the choices were obvious while others not-so obvious. Here is how SNY’s version shaked out:
- Manager: Davey Johnson – Would have preferred to see Gil Hodges here, but as time goes on more and more people forget just how much more significant and difficult to achieve 1969 was. It’s not a knock on Davey, but just an indication of the ever-decreasing number of Mets fans who remember that magical season in the summer of ’69.
- Catcher: Mike Piazza – No complaints here and I’m certain that “Kid” Carter would agree.
- First Base: Keith Hernandez – A no-doubter…
- Second Base: Edgardo Alfonzo – Fonzie certainly earned the nod at second.
- Shortstop: Jose Reyes – Would it be slanderous of me to say Buddy Harrelson deserved this spot? Maybe a 1A and 1B was in order here.
- Third Base: David Wright – The chosen one was the right choice.
- Left Field: Cleon Jones – With apologies to Kevin McReynolds, you’ll get no argument from me on Cleon.
- Center Field: Carlos Beltran – Sorry Lenny… You too Mookie… Beltran may have been the most complete position player ever to don the orange and blue. Power, average, on-base, speed, defense; there was nothing he couldn’t do.
- Right Field: Darryl Strawberry – Of course the Straw Man takes this one in a landslide. Over 20 years later and we are still trying to find a replacement for Strawberry in right field.
- RH Starter: Tom Seaver – They didn’t call him The Franchise for nothing you know…
- LH Starter: Jerry Koosman – If Koosman had played his career for a half-way decent team, he’d probably be in the HOF right now. His career numbers are jaw dropping. It’s nice to see him get some respect here.
- RH Reliever: Roger McDowell – Roger is the beneficiary of what has been a decades long drought of solid right-handed closers for the Mets. He was the best of a very weak group.
- LH Reliever: Tug McGraw – Sorry Franco, but Tug’ wasn’t just a closer he was an old-school fireman who would answer the call no matter what inning it was and snuff out the fire with amazing regularity.
Anyway, that’s my take…
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Shortstop: Jose Reyes – Would it be slanderous of me to say Buddy Harrelson deserved this spot? Maybe a 1A and 1B was in order here.
Third Base: David Wright – The chosen one was the right choice
Wow… just Wow… Clearly you could’ve make a case for howard johnson more than bud harrelson at SS, We had NEVER have a SS like Jose reyes, you can say Howard Johnson did pretty well there no?
Bias Continues… It’s amazing…
Dwight GOODEN???? i love kooz don’t get me wrong, but dwight gooden should be the choice no??
Lmao, i mean.. Bud Harrelson???? Seriously joe D, a 234 hitter to be the SS of the mets team… Amazing… Were you just trying to punk people??
Also, again, i love kooz, but come on, 157-85 (650 Winning %) 3.10 ERA, ROY, Cy Young award. i menan.. Come on!!!!!!
Alex, odds are Koosman got on the team over Dwight Gooden because Koosman was voted top Lefty Starter… and since Doc Gooden threw right handed, that likely had something to do with why Koosman got picked before Dwight.
Just a guess though.
Maybe I’m missing something here but looking at this appears to me they named one LH SP and one RH SP.
Seaver was RH, Gooden was RH, Koos was LH.
You wouldn’t pick Gooden over Seaver so have to believe that’s why he’s not on this list.
ohhh,Got it… Thanks… SRT
would be better to put up a 25 men all-time roster
Agree with most of the position players on this list.
I probably could have went either way with McGraw or Franco.
Buddy was my first ever favorite Met player as a kid but hands down, Reyes deserves the SS spot.
Only one I really don’t agree with is Davey. As you said, not to take anything away from Davey but what Gil did for that ’69 team, what he got out of them down the stretch and into post season, was almost nothing short of a miracle. Think that team only had one .300 hitter that year. Davey had a slew of talent on his ’86 team.
SRT, GO GET YOURSELF A COLD ONE ON ME FOR THE CLEAR SIGHTED SELECTION OF GIL OVER DAVEY ONE GLANCE @ EACH OF THEIR OPENING DAY ROSTERS WOULD NEVER SUGGEST THEY WERE EACH HEADED FOR TICKERTAPE!
WHILE DAVEY’S CREATIVITY WILL FOREVER BE HIGHLIGHTED BY HIS DECISION TO KEEP HIS 2 CLOSER OPTIONS ACTIVE IN THE GAME SIMULTANEOUSLY BY SHELVING ONE IN THE OUTFIELD,
GIL GETS CREATIVITY KUDOS FOR ALTERING THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY FROM THE 4 MAN TO THR 5 MAN ROTATION
HOW MANY MANAGERS DEVELOP A STRATEGY SO QUICKLY EMULATED BY EVERY TEAM IN PERPERTUITY?
Hi Joe D.,
Hope you’re feeling better.
I agree with you that any all-time team selection gives players actually seen by the fans more of an advantage over those they might have only read about. Unless one is a Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, etc. one has to go beyond stats to appreciate the value they had.
Gil Hodges should have been an overwhelming choice. More than just his managerial genius (which went beyond his platoon system to things like a four man oufield), he taught his young and mostly inexperienced players how to play intelligent baseball with the type of disciplinary leadership on the bench not required with seasoned players. He got the most out of players with limited skills like Al Weis and Rod Gaspar and knew how valuable a veteran with just about nothing left (Ed Charles).
That’s why those who look at the lifetime .234 put up by Bud Harrleson don’t realize how important he was on the field with his rifle-arm and timely hitting. The Mets were a poor run scoring club in 1969 so defense and pitching were priorities along with timely hitting. He was the glue of the infield, the one who could go into the hole and get speedsters out with a rifle arm that would even put Reyes to shame. He was one who knew how to position himself with the best of them. He was alert and disciplined, almost never out of position as the cut-off man and what to do next.
Yes, Alfonzo might be the best of all time but unless one saw Harrleson day in and day out, they might not realize how vital he was to the championship teams and those that followed and of his great talent and his ability based on stats.
Again, the problem every generation faces when looking back at the past.
OK let’s fill out the bench!
I’ll start with pinch-hitter: Rusty Staub
(Although Lenny Harris did have that one great year.)
I’d also go with Rey Ordonez as my back-up SS for his glove.
John Olerud as my back-up 1B.
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1b – Keith H. No argument.
2b – Alfonzo. There really is no other.
ss – Reyes. However, Buddy H. was much more of an inspirational leader.
3b – While Wright is putting up numbers, I still have to go with HoJo who had power, speed, and a glove! If Wright improves his D and turns in a consistent bat over the next few years — then I would agree.
c – Piazza. Ok, I can live with it. But the Mets had 2 other great catchers in Carter and Grote –those guys wond World Series with the Mets — someting Piazza never did.
lf – Cleon Jones. Yes, yes, yes!
cf – Beltran. Agree. In his prime, and healthy, he may have been the best CF in in baseball for his era.
rf – Straw. No need to say anything here, easy pick.
RHS – Tom Terrific – of course!
LHS – The Koos. Hands down.
Relievers – The Tugger and, yeah, I guess you can make a case that it’s McDowell
Manager – Gil Hodges. What the hell were they thinking? Nothing against Davey, but Hodges put the Mets on the map and managed with way less talent on the field.
I agree with all the choices except for Davey Johnson over Gil. Gil has his number retired from the Mets and you can see it on the wall at Citi every game. Davey’s number is not on the wall. So the Mets provide the demonstrable evidence that Gil is the choice for all time best as manager for the Mets franchise. Top manager is #14.
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