Jun
3
2012

Live Blog From Citi Field: John Franco Hall Of Fame Induction

Update 12:18

Andres Torres had a big night offensively, but he credited the pitching staff for their stellar performances lately. “Pitching is a big key for winning games, and all our pitchers are terrific.”

He thinks tonight was his best offensive game as a Met. He’s not focused on being in first place right now, since it’s still so early.

Torres was a home run shy of the cycle. I asked him if he was hoping for an at-bat in the bottom of the eighth inning for a chance to do it. He has never hit for a cycle at any level in his career.

“Never been close. I was trying to get a swing but that (Hairston double play) happened.”

He was more excited though that the team won the game.

Update 12:13

Kirk Nieuwenhuis was asked if he deserves to be here, especially with Jason Bay scheduled to return from the DL. “You have ups and downs during the season. You try to keep as even keel as possible.”

He said it’s “pretty cool” that the Mets will start tomorrow tied for first place in the NL East.

He hit his home run on an 0-2 cutter.

Update 12:11

Jon Niese post-game

Niese felt he felt good out there tonight. Last start, he said he tried to throw the ball too hard. Today, he took it nice and easy.

He’s not concerned at all about his elevated heart rate.

After two straight shutouts, Niese didn’t concern himself with trying to throw another. “I don’t want to put that kind of pressure on me. I went out there with mindset of just a quality start.”

He said he has learned a ton from fellow lefty Johan Santana. Niese said he charts the game on tv. “I see how he (Santana) sets up hitters and how he reads hitters mid-swing.”

Update 12:05

Post-game Terry Collins

“I think that’s the best I’ve see him (Niese) throw the ball in a while. He used his curveball very effectively. He threw it for strikes. He threw it out of the zone.”

Niese apparently had an elevated heart rate on the bench and that was why Collins came out to the mound in the fifth inning. It has happened to Niese a few times before.

Collins was with the Dodgers organization when they drafted John Franco. “He’s been a great friend of mine for many years. It’s certainly a well deserved honor. He was a great pitcher.”

On Andres Torres: “When Andres gets on base, he scores. That’s what we’re looking for.”

Collins expects to put Jason Bay in the lineup when he returns. “We’ll have some fun decisions here as we head down the road with who should play and who should rest.”

There’s been an infectious feeling amongst the starting pitchers. “You want guys when they are pitching good to compete with each other. Tomorrow, I want Dillon (Gee) to stand up and say, ‘I’m going to do that same thing.’”

“This is the best atmosphere in a clubhouse that I’ve been around in a long time.”

Update 11:10

METS WIN!!!! 6-1. Mets take three straight from the Cards. Will try for a four-game sweep tomorrow at noon.

Jon Niese improves to 4-2 on the year.

The scoreless streak is over, but the wins keep piling up.

The Mets are now tied for first place in the NL East.

I will head down for post-game interviews and then return to the press box to transcribe some quotes. Stay tuned for the coverage.

Update 11:07

And it comes down to Beltran…

Update 11:07

Holliday goes fishing for the second out.

Update 11:06

Oh boy. Error by David Wright.

Either way, Mets have 22 wins this season against teams with an above .500 winning percentage, which is the most in the NL.

Now they just have to beat the teams that are under .500.

Update 11:03

One out in the ninth.

Update 10:59

No cycle tonight for Torres (assuming of course that Frank Francisco protects the five-run lead). But a great overall night for Andres.

Update 10:57

My bad, I spoke too soon. Hairston hits into the 6-4-3 double play. Captain Kirk will have to keep it going.

Update 10:56

I thought it was guaranteed before that Torres would have at least one more at-bat. I was wrong. Mets need at least one baserunner…

And there it it. Thole walks. Scott Hairston is the pinch hitter. Assuming there’s no double play, Torres will bat in this inning in search of a cycle. Will need the long ball.

Update 10:53

Jason Motte entering the game for the Cards.

Update 10:52

Byrdak starts a new scoreless inning streak at 0.1 innings.

Update 10:51

Tonight’s attendance: 23,559

Update 10:49

Just showed clips on big screen of the no-hitter. Still in awe about that. And I only had to wait  23 years to see it. I can only imagine what fans since 1962 must have felt.

Then again, I wasn’t around in 1986 so I envy all the Mets fans who got to see that.

Update 10:47

And there it goes…

Elvin Ramirez gives up an RBI single that snaps the Mets scoreless streak at 25 innings.

Tim Byrdak comes in.

Update 10:45

Ramirez has a good arm on him.

Update 10:44

This is almost as stressful as the no-hitter was in keeping the scoreless streak alive. Ramirez strikeouts Adams for the second out.

Update 10:42

Seems fine. Matt Adams pinch hitting here for the Cards. Runner on second, one out.

Update 10:41

And then gets drilled with a Yadi Molina line drive. Coaches, trainers and entire infield crowding around him. Will attempt a few throws.

Update 10:40

Welcome to the big leagues Elvin Ramirez. David Freese singles up the middle.

Update 10:37

Elvin Ramirez enters the game for the Mets and will make his Major League debut. Keep the streak going Elvin.

Update 10:36

We head to the top of the eighth.

Update 10:35

What a terrible swing there from Ike. He might benefit from being sent down. Bay comes back to the outfield and Duda moves to first. Bay and Hairston split time with Kirk and Torres.

Update 10:33

A very emphatic “Yankees Suck!” chant just resonated through the ballpark.

Update 10:32

Sure enough, Scott Stapp from Creed sang God Bless America.

Update 10:28

STRIKE THREE! Parnell survives a rough inning. The scoreless streak continues. 25 consecutive scoreless innings.

Update 10:27

Parnell just hit 100 mph. But it was inside.

Update 10:25

Dan Warthen out to talk to Parnell after the walk to Holliday. The dangerous Carlos Beltran coming to the plate.

Update 10:24

Don’t want to count our chickens but the last defending World Series champions to be shut out for three straight games was the 1966 Los Angeles Dodgers.

Update 10:23

Captain Kirk has taken well to left field. Remember that whole debate about who should play center when Torres returns. Well, Torres has been great in center and Kirk has been great in left. Collins is a genius.

However, we will see how much of a genius he is when Jason Bay is eligible to return from the DL, which will likely be this week.

Scott Hairston is hitting well too, so Bay may be slowly eased back in. But with Mike Baxter now on the DL, the team will need another outfielder.

Update 10:20

Mets have the worst bullpen ERA (5.45) in the league and the second most blown saves (10).

Update 10:19

No pressure on you Bobby. Your team just has a streak of 24 scoreless innings going.

Update 10:18

Like I said before, leadoff walks score 80 percent of the time, if not higher. Parnell walks Daniel DeScalso with the top of the Cards order coming up.

Update 10:14

Bobby Parnell will be the first reliever attempting to keep the Mets scoreless inning streak alive here in the top of the seventh.

Update 10:12

Torres is a homer away from the cycle. He should have at least one more chance this game.

Update 10:09

Crowd not happy after that inside pitch to Wright.

Update 10:08

Another big hit from Andres Torres! Mets lead 6-0. This is a team of destiny.

Update 10:05

Kirk just set a new career high in RBI in a game with three.

Maickel Cleto in to pitch for St. Louis.

Update 10:04

Kirk comes up big again. Single up the middle drives home Quintanilla. 4-0 Mets. Here comes a double switch.

Update 10:01

Valdespin fails to get the bunt down and then pops up. Collins ain’t gonna be too happy about that. 3-0 is still a close game and you gotta do the little things right in those spots.

Update 10:00

Niese’s day is done. Six innings, six hits, one walk, 10 strikeouts, 70 of his 96 pitches were strikes. That’s unreal.

Update 9:59

Sidenote: I was in the dugout before with Scott Stapp from the band Creed. I think he’s singing God Bless America. He recorded one of those rallying Mets chants like Chris Rock and Kevin James do.

Update 9:58

Another John Franco shot from his speech.

Update 9:56

Mound visit from Mike Matheny. And he’s pulling Jake Westbrook. Lefty Sam Freeman coming in for the Cards.

Update 9:55

Fantastic at-bat there from Josh Thole. Runners on first and second and nobody out for Valdespin. Do you bunt here? If so, why not leave in Niese to bunt?

Update 9:54

Bobby Parnell warming up in the pen. Looks like Jordany Valdespin will hit for Niese.

Update 9:51

80 percent of leadoff walks score. Omar Quintanilla just walked; let’s see if he scores.

Update 9:47

That’s now 24 consecutive scoreless innings from Mets pitching. Notice: ALL FROM STARTING PITCHERS.

Update 9:46

Great throw home by Andres Torres!!!! The streak is alive!!! Looked like a close there at home plate. Thole might have just got the tag on.

Update 9:45

HUGE strikeout from Niese. Adrian Chambers who has struck out twice already today steps to the plate with two outs.

Update 9:42

Beltran rips Niese’s 90th pitch into left field for a base hit. This might be his last inning of work. No activity as of now in the bullpen.

Great play there by Omar Quintanilla and good turn by Murph. Freese beat the throw though.

Update 9:37

Davis hit that ball very well, but Citi Field is still too big.

Update 9:36

It’s been announced in the press box that Dillon Gee will start tomorrow afternoon’s game for the Mets

Update 9:35

No-Han t-shirts are available in the Mets team store. The drawback: $32. Wow, $32 for a t-shirt. The best way to have those prices drop is for another Met starter to throw a perfect game.

Update 9:34

Five scoreless innings from Mr. Niese. It’s just been one great pitching performance after another. Keep in mind it’s not like the Mets pitchers are blanking the Astros (despite the Astros sweeping the Mets earlier this season). The Cardinals have one of the top offenses in the NL even without Albert Pujols.

Update 9:32

Collins comes out to talk to Niese. That was weird. He just set a career high in strikeouts with nine.

Update 9:29

If Niese continues this pace, the Mets bullpen will go four full days (including last Thursday’s off day) without much work. Even if Niese gets through seven, that would only be two innings. Is this good or bad for the pen? What do you think?

Yes, the bullpen hasn’t been great, but the only way for them to regain confidence is by getting on that mound and getting the job done.

Update 9:26

David Wright before popping out to end the bottom of the fourth.

Update 9:22

Cards trainers and coaches out to tend to Westbrook. He might have a sore neck after giving up that bomb.

Update 9:21

Captain Kirk goes blastoff! He needed that shot. No. 3 on the season. And that was on an 0-2 pitch. Mets 3, Cardinals 0.

Update 9:19

Jon Niese is 2-for-2. That ties Niese’s career high in hits in a game. Last time: September 2010 in Chicago.

Update 9:17

We got a pitcher’s duel brewing here at Citi.

Update 9:15

Gotta love Brooklyn boy Johnny Franco!

Update 9:13

GOT HIM! And the streak continues!

Update 9:12

Big Niese strikeout. Now must get out Westbrook.

Update 9:10

Ike was off the base on that one. Same umpire (Adrian Johnson) who blew the Beltran fair or foul call. But he got this one right. Ike must have saw the runner crossing and came off early. Scoreless inning streak in serious jeopardy.

Update 9:08

Not known for his speed, that was actually Molina’s fifth steal of the season.

Update 9:06

Every time up, Yadier Molina is berated with a chorus of boo’s. Lines a single to left. The guy can flat out play.

Update 9:05

It’s amazing how a guy like David Freese can go from being a relative unknown to a household name in a matter of games. Play well during the postseason and that’s what happens. Niese fans him here though.

Update 9:03

John’s son J.J. Franco presented his father with his Hall of Fame plaque. J.J. was drafted by the Mets, but instead chose to attend Brown University on a baseball scholarship. He’s a second baseman.

Update 9:01

Not necessarily boo’s for Ike Davis. But fans are very apathetic towards him.

Update 8:59

This team may not score a lot of runs, but remember that pitching and defense win championships.

Update 8:56

Beltran goes down swinging. Niese is through three without surrendering a run. Scoreless streak at 21.

Update 8:54

Carlos Beltran started off the weekend getting applause, but now it’s mostly boo’s.

Update 8:48

The members of the Mets Hall of Fame as well as Franco’s special guests.

Update 8:45

ESPN just showed the clips of Terry Collins during Santana’s no-hitter. Nice!

Update 8:43

Back-to-back hits with one out. Now up Torres who socked a double last time up.

Update 8:41

Nice at-bat there from Niese. Fouled off some tough pitches and lined a single past Furcal.

Update 8:39

Al Leiter was one of Franco’s former teammates on hand for the festivities. Leiter had great things to say about Franco and said everyone listened to the reliever when he was the captain.

Update 8:37

Niese looking pretty good so far. Records a strikeout to retire the side. Keeps scoreless inning streak alive.

Update 8:34

Photos from the ceremony

Update 8:33

Niese just took a broken bat to the body. Appears fine.

Update 8:31

The Department of Sanitation pep band performed before the ceremony. Franco’s dad of course was in the NYC Dept. of Sanitation, and that’s why Franco always wore the orange shirt under his uniform. He got a little emotional talking about it, but he thanked his dad for teaching him how to play the game.

Update 8:30

Can’t leave the bases loaded with one out. Anyway, I will intersperse the live coverage with a recap of the John Franco Hall of Fame induction ceremony, which was very well done.

Update 8:28

Ike has to put the ball in play there. The slump continues. He looked good today in bp, but it has to translate into the game.

Update 8:25

Murph delivers a single. Mets can break it open right here. Ike Davis can really break out of a slump in a big way with a clutch hit. A grand slam would be great, but a single would do.

Update 8:24

Cards starter Jake Westbrook has induced eight double play grounders. He’s hoping for one here. But Murph may have different plans…

Update 8:22

Duda comes through. Mets 1, Cardinals 0.

Update 8:21

Nationals lost today so the Mets can pull into a tie for first place with a win. Get it started DUDA!

Update 8:18

Mets have a .264 BA with runners in scoring position–third best in the NL.

Update 8:16

Nice double from Andres Torres. Now let’s get him around.

Update 8:12

I’m back and the Mets and Jon Niese are through the top of the first.

Update 6:59

I’m heading down to the field to get a good spot for the John Franco ceremony. Be bacl later. Look for me behind home plate.

Update 6:57

Tarp

The tarp is coming off the field! There will be baseball tonight in Queens!

Update 6:55

Bill Maher

A few reporters were gathering outside the clubhouse, and HBO comedian Bill Maher was there wearing a Mets hat. He was mainly hanging out with Jeff Wilpon.

One of the other reporters noted that Maher recently purchased a minority share of the Mets and is now a partial owner. He said he’s been a Mets fan since he was young.

His first memory of the Mets was when his dad was reading the paper in 1961 and said that National League baseball was heading back to New York.

Maher said the purchase is a good investment, but he cannot disclose any terms of the agreement.

He said his role will simply to bring luck to the team. “Let’s be honest. They did not have a no-hitter for 50 years. I buy in and I come to town, and there’s a no-hitter. Draw your own conclusions.”

Update 6:49

R.A. Dickey spoke with reporters after his stellar performance from yesterday.

He said he’s open to pitching on short rest for his next start. “If it helps Johan (Santana) get an extra day of rest, so be it.”

He said he can measure how well he thinks he can perform on a given day based on his bullpen session.

“If I am given the ball on short rest, you have to treat me like it’s my normal day,” Dickey said. “I don’t want to get cheated.”

In typical Dickey lexicon, he said that “prudence will be measured in retrospect” when handling the issue of an extra day. “If we end up winning a game and it goes well, then it was prudent.”

Update 6:41

Check out Josh Thole taking some reps at first base.

Josh Thole

Update 6:38

John Franco

John Franco is currently working for the Mets, and he’s enjoying what he’s doing.

He commented that a no-hitter can rejuvenate a franchise. “You want to go out there, and Jonathon (Niese) probably wants to go out there and keep that scoreless innings streak going. Hopefully he does.”

Franco said that this current team needs to be consistent, and they could do something special.

_________________________________________________________________________________

Hello all!

Pre-game interviews just concluded. The tarp is actually on the field right now, but the sun is shining here in Flushing.

There are a couple of key new developments surrounding the team, and I will try to highlight those before I head down to the field for the John Franco Hall of Fame ceremony.

Enjoy!

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  • Great for Dickey and he’s right!!! Collins should just back the EFF off. Damn the pitch counts. As Fonzie said yesterday we are 15-0 when starters go 7 or more innings!

    One more thing, this bullpen sucks.Worst in Thanks for nothing Alderson!

    • I can almost understand it with Johan but the others should pitch until they get into trouble or tell him they got nothing left.

      Johan coming off of injury is a special case and by this time next year that changes.

      And even in his case set the target but you have to let him decide if he has more or not.
      Fine line between Cautious and babying!

      • Yeah, absolutely. Especially in the cases of veterans like Johan, nobody knows their body better than them.

        By the way, doesnt Bill Maher look like Bernie Madoff in that shot? I had to do a double take.

        • Yep you gotta let the guy with the feeling make the call.
          Especially guys who can win Cy Youngs and throw No Hitters! LOL

          Nah I think Bernie always wears stripes these days! That is when he is not bent over the bathroom sink! LOL

        • On the flip side, these are type-A super macho guys. They are going to keep pushing to the detriment of their health.

          And they don’t necessarily “know their own bodies” better than the doctors.

          • The Type As aren’t a problem because they push themselves to the point of breaking, they are a problem because they don’t take themselves out even if they KNOW there is a problem…

            There is no data that shows pitchers on pitch counts get hurt any less than guys without them.

            Since they started using Pitch counts more pitchers have actually been injured than there were in the days before they came in use. Some of that is because they are over cautious as well.

            It’s not the COUNT of pitches that hurt you it is the state of tiredness when you make them that throws your mechanics off leading to the injury.

            As long as the guy is not tired his mechanics should be fine.
            And I don’t think anyone has suggested that if you see a breakdown in his mechanics late in a game that you shouldn’t pull him even if he has NOT reached his pitch count yet!

            Every player is different and no one knows what his body is feeling better than him, Not even doctors because Doctors can only go by what the player tells him.
            Then they test based on what he said.

            • “The Type As aren’t a problem because they push themselves to the point of breaking, they are a problem because they don’t take themselves out even if they KNOW there is a problem…”

              Ya, that is what I said.

              “There is no data that shows pitchers on pitch counts get hurt any less than guys without them.”

              There is medical research.

              “Since they started using Pitch counts more pitchers have actually been injured than there were in the days before they came in use.”

              Got data for that?

              Also, is that because of pitch counts or because we have more ways of discovering health problems?

              The average career is lasting longer and pitchers are remaining effective longer into the season.

              “It’s not the COUNT of pitches that hurt you it is the state of tiredness when you make them that throws your mechanics off leading to the injury.”

              And they use pitch counts to estimate when a pitcher’s arm is going to wear down. That is the point of them.

              Also, bad mechanics starting at younger ages seem to be the biggest factor in leading to injuries.

              “Every player is different and no one knows what his body is feeling better than him, Not even doctors because Doctors can only go by what the player tells him.
              Then they test based on what he said.”

              Or, they can go by what he displays. You can lie, but your body can’t.

              • Medical Research? On how many guys have wound up on the Disabled List now compared to befroe there were pitch counts?

                “Also, is that because of pitch counts or because we have more ways of discovering health problems? ”
                It’s because of the same reason they have pitch counts…because they are over cautious and put guys on the DL and skip starts for minor issues.

                “And they use pitch counts to estimate when a pitcher’s arm is going to wear down”
                Please oh please tell me how they can estimate how many pitches that guy is good for?
                Really they set a number based on what he pitched before not based on his arm’s ability in any way!

                They set a standard count number and adjust based on what he pitched the day before as if the Arm is some sort of Deli Counter ticket dispenser and will run out of tickets if too many pitches are thrown.

                His Arm has nothing to do with it!

                • “Medical Research? On how many guys have wound up on the Disabled List now compared to befroe there were pitch counts?”

                  No, on how pitch counts affect the arm. I’ve read studies that have drawn the conclusion that pitch counts do more to preserve a pitcher’s health than the extra day rest 5 man rotations provide.

                  “It’s because of the same reason they have pitch counts…because they are over cautious and put guys on the DL and skip starts for minor issues.”

                  Because they are more aware of the health issues.

                  “Please oh please tell me how they can estimate how many pitches that guy is good for?”

                  Several factors

                  “Really they set a number based on what he pitched before not based on his arm’s ability in any way!”

                  Uh, no. They do use previous appearance but that is only a part of the equation. Mechanics, age, health history, comparable pitchers etc etc all figure into it.

                  • Donal, Just so we are straight here, I’m not doubting you read this research nor it’s existence…

                    But pray tell how do you study that? (if you know I would love to hear their methodology!)

                    Examine a guy make him throw 100 pitches and then examine him again?
                    Calculate the damage?

                    Or did they merely do some statistical analysis on guys who pitched X amount of innings and determined what amount of pitches would be average and ok before you were likely to damage yourself?

                    Because before there were pitch counts Pitchers hardly ever got pulled after 6 innings and most of them pitched to their 40′s!

                    If you can find it I would love to read this research!

          • True – but like in the “olden days” pitch counts always existed, but they were based on the player, not a arbitrary number. With all the tools (yeah I said tool) available now, there is no excuse to not have the information on what each pitcher can and cannot handle in a pitch count.

            Dickey with his knuckle ball is one that does not need to be limited (within reason)

    • No, Dickey was talking about the rest schedule.

  • Seeing Thole takes reps at first base doesn’t bode well for Ike Davis.

    • Well it sure isn’t good for Ikes prospects of staying up…
      But I would like to see them give some guys reps at other positions even in cases where some guy is NOT struggling.

  • Why are we wearing BLACK??

    • So Mets Police could write 200 more posts about absolutely nothing.

    • Its because of John Franco going in Mets HOF they wore them when he was here.

  • Lets Go Mets!!!

  • Some great pics here! Thanks for sharing as for some reason it wasnt televised on SNY.

  • 9 K’s for Niese? Seems like everyone in the rotation is trying to play a game of one upsmanship against the other. I joked to a friend earlier that the only way Niese could probably top this is a CG shutout with 12 Ks, and now he’s almost there. Gee, you have a mountain to climb now my friend.

  • Really Lisa? I know the game is on ESPN tonight, but I could have sworn they would air the Franco ceremony on SNY. There were tv cameras everywhere, so maybe it will be aired at a later date.

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