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2012
Gee Dazzles In 4-3 Win As Mets Complete Sweep Of The O’s
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The Mets improved to 38-32 after completing a three-game sweep of the Orioles with a thrilling 4-3 victory tonight in Citi Field.
Dillon Gee started and delivered his best performance of the season tossing 7.1 innings and allowing just two runs on three hits and two walks while striking out nine. Gee was in command and had his changeup working, but his only mistake was one bad pitch that Wilson Betemit blasted for a two-run home run in the eighth inning. Going into that frame he had held the O’s to just one hit through seven. Gee earned his fifth win and now has a 1.24 WHIP and 4.27 ERA for the season. Nice job…
In the ninth inning, Frank Francisco made things nerve-wracking when he loaded the bases, walked in a run, and got into all sorts of trouble. But he was able to bear down and get the final out to record his 17th save of the season.
The Mets got on the board in the 4th inning on an RBI single by Mike Nickeas. They scored three more runs later in the game on a pair of RBI doubles by Scott Hairston and David Wright, and a fielders choice by Ike Davis that scored Wright.
Wright had a big night going 3-4 with a run scored and an RBI, and took over the NL lead in batting with a .358 mark.
All in all, another nice win to complete the sweep and after an off day tomorrow. the Yankees come to Citi Field for the Subway Series 2.0. Jon Niese takes on Andy Pettitte. LGM!
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| Mets | 17 | 24 | .415 | 7.0 |
| Marlins | 12 | 32 | .273 | 13.5 |
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great game by Gee.
rough outing by Franky, but he got it done. Last 5 weeks or so he has been very good, so if he just has 1 weak outing every month or so, take it!
Armando’s little brother was on full display last night! Terry Collins must go through cases of TUMS whenever that guy gets into a game.
Very good outing for Gee.
Way too close for comfort in the 9th. This BP is gonna kill me. But a W is a W.
Swept the Os. On to the Yankees.
The title of this post says it all “Gee Dazzles”.
Gee looked like he was going to pitch another 1 hitter tonight as he entered the 8th inning. It was not to be as he was taken deep for a HR and left after a walk. The pen did the rest though Francisco definitely made it scary in the 9th before getting the save after a giving up a bases loaded walk to cut the lead to one. Francisco’s best impression of KRod/Wagner/Franco/etc etc etc.
Hairston is just a beast this year vs Lefties how anyone can question him playing vs lefties at this point is beyond me. Wright hitting .358 continues to have an ALL Star year though he did get caught looking at that flyball that dropped. He isn’t the 1st All Star nor will he be the last that it happens to.
Mets sweep the O’s last time they did that was 1969. Great year
Now time for some payback vs the Yanks.
LGM!
There really is not excuse for every player to not run out balls reasonably hard. Sure, 99% of the time the routine play is made, but you only get 4-5ABs so it won’t kill you to run it our just in case.
This.
Hi North,
Technically, the Mets didn’t sweep the birds in 1969 – they just won four in a row after Mike Cuellar beat them 4-1 in the first game at Baltimore which at that time made Tom Seaver the only Met in history to lose a world series game – a dubious distinction that as a joke the Mets opened up his player profile with in the 1970 yearbook.
Or were you referring to the circa 1969 three sweep of New York over Baltimore by the Mets (Orioles), Jets (Colts) and Knicks (Bullets)? Remember Bill Gallo’s “MJK Winners Club” that was a regular in the Daily News?
Am sure we will all be happy taking four out of five no matter who the opposition is.
LGM
Yes I know. Forget I ever uttered the word sweep. It is not worth having it read so literal when the intent was just to have some fun with connecting to a great time in Mets history to a moment now.
Hi North,
Actually it was us who erred, not you.
You caught us off guard for we took it as meaning the entire world series when you were referring to the three straight we took them at home. We didn’t read it properly so consider yourself off the hook completely with egg on all our own faces instead!
And as mentioned, we did three-sweep Baltimore before – that good old “Mets Jets Knicks Winners Club”.
Oh, what great memories. I think this group is going to give us some great ones too!
We were quite clearly the under dogs going into that WS. Remember reading the papers which were all giving us no shot in hell of beating the Os. I’ll confess when they beat Seaver in the first game I started to think maybe they knew what they were talking about. But as we know, came back to win 4 in a row and win it all.
They swept them in Baltimore 2 years ago. Chris Carter hit 3 run homers in back to back games, fri-sat and then they blasted them on sunday for 14 runs.
Mets didn’t sweep Orioles in ’69. Lost Game 1.
Sweep at Home.
One of my favorite media persons is Rich Coutinho. For one the man just never tries to prop himself up at the expense of taking someone else down and is one of the most positive type of persons I’ve come across through social media.
He tweets tonight.
coutinho9 (Beat Writer / Columnist) For all the non-believers out there after 70 games only the Nats & Dodgers have more wins than the Mets in the NL
http://twitter.com/coutinho9/statuses/215646408508841985
If they lost tonite i would have blamed Burkhardt for his incessant droning on and on all nite about one hitters and consecutive shutouts.He gave me a headache and almost jinxed us into losing the game.Just win the game, who cares about all the other nonsense.Can’t wait till Gary Cohen returns to the booth.Anybody else feel the same way?
I know that many Met fans have no use for KB and read several complaints much like yours last night.
I have no problem with Kevin. He’s certainly no Gary but he does a creditable job filling in. I think it’s just inexperience that has him talking non stop in the booth. Gary does a great job of letting the game dictate the flow of the conversation.
I’ll say this…..one time when Gary was unavailable – which is few and far between – they went with just Ron and Keith in the booth. As much as I love GKR, those two by themselves doesn’t work very well. Gary’s the guy who obviously controls the flow.
I’m wishing they’d juggle things around some and have Howie fill in and join Keith and Ron. They did that at least once I believe, and it was great.
Two problems with Howie joining them….
1 – He isn’t under contract to SNY he works for FAN if I’m not mistaken…
2 – They don’t have anyone else with the radio Play by Play experience to cover for him adequatly enough to fill the time.
Don’t know about #1 and good point about #2, something I thought of too.
I just remember them doing that once….can’t remember what year it was.
They did have Steve Phillips with Lewin the night Johan threw his no hitter. Forgot the reason Howie needed the day off.
If I’m not mistaken, FAN has the rights to broadcast but the Mets decide who is in the booth. Remember the Mets are a different company than SNY (despite having an owner in common SNY also has other owners) and I am sure FAN would complain that they were hurting thier product to take Howie away from thier broadcast.
They could easily put Ed Coleman in for him as he has covered for him in the past if I’m not mistaken.
The real issue is people think doing play by play is easy but actually it is the play by play guy who really controls the broadcast!
He is the one who starts the conversation off when there is no play to call.
Cut Kev some slack there Gary….
First off he had very little help from the other two. RD tried to fill in space as much as he could but Keith was his usual 3 announce team self who tends to stay quite unless asked something directly.
Not knocking Keith here just noting that he is very different during broadcasts when Darling is there compared to when Darling is out and they go with the two man booth.
Probably in deference since the broadcast team is really Cohen and Darling plus sometimes Keith!
People are spoiled by Gary. He has always been a fan of the team and knows it’s history probably better than anyone at SNY. (Howie Rose and KIner when he is on might know just a bit more!).
And that is what carries the broadcast when your pitchers are throing 0-1 hitters or three consecutive shutouts.
It’s very difficult to fill 3 hours of airtime when pretty much nothing happens.
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great win by the mets, it seems as if they have a 500 mentality to win games and lose games…
also, Wright had a big night going 3-4 with a run scored and an RBI, and took over the NL lead in batting with a .358 mark.”
Did you see when he was JOGGING on that fly ball that was dropped??? Anybody else noticed that???? JOGGING!!! the guy who’s the all american dream for some mets fans JOGGING on a fly ball that then of course was dropped, Thank god the yankees had teixeira on first instead of wright, otherwise they wouldn’t have won the game as they did.. Amazing, Teixeira scored on a dropped ball by the 2B and wright just get to third.. Yet all we focus on is him getting the batting lead which is great for HIM as he is playing for his contract extension.
Yeah, I think we all saw Wright not running hard on that dropped fly. If he had been, he’d have scored. Can’t be doing that – it’s unacceptable.
Same with Valdespin on that pop up he had. Can’t stand there with the bat in hand looking at it.
Yeah, I think we all saw Wright not running hard on that dropped fly”
It’s called JOGGING…stop trying to sugar coated… i think we saw him not runnig hard my as*, he was literally WALKING… it’s amazing how NOONE said anything about that, but of course
LOL….what is wrong with you? I’m agreeing with you.
Jeeze…..
Not running hard = jogging.
point is, no sugar coating it… SMH…
Is that were you were doing? Because I sure wasn’t.
Does the word ‘unacceptable’ not exist in your vocabulary?
How is it some of you can read a printed word and come away with completely the opposite meaning of what’s actually there? Voices in your head?
Ain’t it funny that a guy like Alex focuses on the arguably poor base running rather than Wright’s G R double that drove in the run that won the game? Like that was the GW hit, ‘ya know.
Well, you know, Wright’s just padding his own stats getting ready for the contract?
UNBELIEVABLE!
I am sorry?? GW Double???? Weren’t the mets winning 3-0 by then???? If it wasn’t for that lousy closer sandy alderson somehow overpaid for FFF and his 5.19 ERA the game would’ve ended 4-2… You guys are amazing, i am sure had the game be 3-3 we would’ve seen a different result on that wright at bat.. But hey, no pressure, game 3-0, MEts SP have completely SHUT DOWN the Orioles offense, at that point it felt no matter if it was 1 run the game was over, Give credit to the pitching, who aside from sandy’s greatest acquisition FFF was spot on.. SMH.. LEt’s always see the + with the Beloved captain, let’s kill everyone else for not hustling or dogging it, but when the Captain does it, let’s say he had a good game and forget it… Amazing
Alex you should know Joe and Evan finally calling Wright out for his lack of hustle – Evan Robert’s exact words “David Wright doesn’t hustle on a consistent basis”
They are taking him to task BIG TIME and they are also bringing up Mark Texeira and if he jogged he would not have scored – i just may call in LOL
Thanks for continuing to prove to all how much you hate Wright.
Many, and I mean many, GW hits are never known at the time they occur. Normally, these runs are padding, but not with these Mets. David drives in fourth run on a gapper, and Mets BP almost blows game. Wright’s hit ends up being THE decisive one (unlike his two previous), and we win. I’m just stating the fact.
A hater like you prefers to dwell on human imperfection rather than Wright’s daily commanding talent and team leadership. It’s o.k., you’re entitled.
Wright’s daily commanding talent and team leadership”
Commanding talent??? He’s talented i’ll give you that, but COMMANDING?? LMAO!
Team Leadership???? Did he show leadership last night by lolly gagging a fly ball? to the OF nonetheless??? Amazing!
Vadelspins was an ever worse mistake…if the guy decided to let it drop he had an easy DP to end the inning….
I’m not gonna disagree with that considering he’s a “rook” and has a lot of balls to even attempt to do that. I think they should leave Valdy in at 2B and see what we have now BUT if i were manager last night i would have yanked him out of the game right then and there when he did that.
The attitude and swagger that he brings to this club which i think would be a refreshing change of pace (at this time) and kind of needed is the very thing that can bring this kid down too if not held in check.
Well I agree he has earned the right to play…
For now though I would rather see him, Murphy and Hairston put in a 3 man rotational platoon instead.
Vs LHP
Hairston LF
Valdespin 2B
Vs RHP
Valdespin LF
Murphy 2B
That keeps Valdespin getting work at both positions until we decide what is going to happen with Murph and Bay, Get Hairston out of there vs RHP which he seems to be useless at, and allows us to put Valdespin as the leadoff or #2 hitter everyday once Tejada gets back.
Truth is we have more guys who can play the 2B position in place of Murphy than Valdespin…I think we need his speed more in the OF considering how slow Duda is and our park where anything down the line can easily be a triple if the OF doesn’t get there fast enough….One of the reasons why I’m not so quick to put Duda in LF despite the fact it’s probably what he is best suited for without the park considerations…
MEtsie, valdespin have a few games in and you give him a pass because he’s still a kid, meanwhile, throughout his career he does this… He joggs to frst base on ground outs ALL THE TIME!!! Yet this people never seem to point that out
Pass or no Pass it’s a mistake….a Mistake your shouldn’t be making after being promoted from AA!
It could have been very costly! a double play there ends the inning and the game is tied after Francisco blows the save in the ninth!
I get what you guys are saying about Wright, I really do…
I disagree only because despite those issues the guy is hitting .358 with a .456 OBP and .571 SLG. and for once more walks than Ks. Second on the team in RBI and 3rd in HRs.
I mean there are a lot of guys who deserve more criticism than he does.
But that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t bitch about him tanking it on some plays…Just that if he’s hitting above .300 it obviosuly isn’t hurting us too much when he does get lazy.
And just to clarify…
I fully understand the bitching about Wright has more to do with what some guys said about Reyes than anything Wright himself is doing….
Which is why I haven’t really argued with you two despite my disagreement.
I get WHY your doing it!
IMO, no one should get a pass on not playing the game right. Not a veteran and not a rookie.
That 9th inning was nauseating. When you walk Mark freakin’ Reynolds, you’re in trouble. Thank goodness they’re continuing to ride this wave into this series with the Yankees. Time to return the favor by sweeping them at home and catch up even further to Washington (let’s face it, you’re a fool if you think Washington will maintain 1st place for the rest of the year.)
Why are the mets so inconsistent.
Swept by Yanks
Sweep Tampa Bay
Swept By Cincy
Sweep Baltimore
They are a .500 team. There will be peaks and valleys.
Hey, there a six games-over .500 team!
Look at who started the games when they sweep and are swept!
Thats the key to the ups and downs. The Backend rotation being around .500 (and not always through a fault of thier own)
The only exception to the rule is Santana had a bad day vs the Yanks other wise we don’t get swept.
Yanks
Santana (coming off the No Hitter and didn’t have it)
Gee (No Hitting vs Huges)
Niese (Lead lost by Parnell, Game lost by Rauch)
Tampa
Young (Bats were there)
Dickey
Santana
Cincy
Gee (Bats disappeared vs Arroyo who always does well vs Mets)
Niese (Bats again vs Bailey)
Young (Bats still quiet vs Cueto thier ace)
Balt
Dickey
Santana
Gee
The Bats seem to go to sleep when the back of the rotation pitches and even when the bats are there the Bullpen seems to play more in the games the backend pitches because they can’t go past the 7th inning like Dickey and Santana have to keep them out of the result.
Gee went deep last night and so did Young which seems to be the difference in thier games,
Or “they are”
So wait a second, others called reyes and other former mets out for lack of hustlin and childish etc and they’re being objective…. We call out wright for his lack of hustlin and we hate the man???? Are some of you’s serious?!!?!!?
Are you are going to deny that you almost on a daily basis make it a point to call out Wright on something not in a positive manner?
I mean if you don’t like him you don’t like him it’s all good but let’s not pretend as if you give every met the same amount of your time as you do with Wright.
met the same amount of your time as you do with Wright”
DO YOU???? Every other player do something, yet all i see in this blog is how great is #5… I am just pointing out that we should not only focus on his good things, let’s point out that he does NOT hustle to first base on ground outs and on a fly ball he could’ve scored he jogged and only got to third base, but of course, if me and bayonne point that out, we hate the man~ SMH
Yes, you and Bay hate him. It’s clear from the last year’s worth of your collective ravings about him.
A normal fan can say, Wright didn’t hustle on that play, but, heck, he did hit that double that proved to be a game-winner. A non-observant and blinded-by-hate “fan” dwells facetiously and incorrectly on the preposterous notion that he “never” runs hard on a grounder. When you say things to that effect, you just totally undermine any credibility that you might have because you write demonstrably false things.
When the point is only to point out when 1 person does it then it becomes more about pointing that 1 individual than pointing it out whenever it happens.
Again you can like or not like whoever you want. You think I want someone telling me that I should like Oliver Perez? Heck no. But when someone routinely points out whenever in this case Wright does something they feel wrong it’s not hard to see that and deduce “Hey I guess so and so just really doesn’t like player X”.
So in the end yes in my opinion right or wrong based on many of your past comments I think you in general are not a big fan of Wright but rather the opposite you don’t that that much of him and even dislike him to an extent.
So basically what your saying is what is happening with Wright is about the same thing that was happening with Reyes last year only it didn’t seem to bother anyone when it was reyes getting all the grief?
You know what Alex and Bayonne are doing?
Applying the SAME STANDARDS that were used to malign Reyes and applying them to Wright.
Fitting perhaps since both are/were in the race for a batting title.
I disagree with them because I look at what the team might be like without his bat in the lineup…
And while everyone is quick to point out that Reyes isn’t hitting .300 and Tejada is or the many Injuries Reyes had in his past the bottom line is history says:
Tejada has played in half the games Reyes has this year and Reyes is a lifetime .291 hitter where Tejada is a lifetime .263 hitter!
And if it that easy to trash a guy who was a main cog in making the wheels go when it was Reyes then it’s just as fair and easy to apply that critical eye towards Wright next!
Truth is I believe it was wrong in both cases….
But the right or wrong is being based on WHO said it!
You guys don’t like the guys who bitch about Wright but like the guys who Bitched about Reyes!
Sounds a bit hypocritical if you ask me…
Well, I’ve never bitched about Reyes, but I like Wright better and he is more valuable to the Mets
Well I look at both as two sides of the same scoring coin…
Reyes was responsible and involved in producing 137 Runs for us last year.
Wright was responsible for producing 107….
Now maybe Wright gets the 66 RBIs opportunities that Beltran took away from Wright when he was here… maybe not.
Both were a big part of the run production of this team and I have to wonder if Reyes’ reduced BA this year is really because of Reyes or because their entire team is hitting .239
BOTH were valuable to us but one was deemed disposable!
And that has as much to do with moneyball, and revenge for 2009 and 2010 as anything to do with what the players themselves have accomplished since then!
1st off you have no clue what your talking about when it comes to what I said.
Maybe if you tried focusing on what I said rather than trying to fit everything into this “you guys” group you often do you would be better off.
I unlike some others like Alex and he often is on point with some of his views so not that I need explain myself to you but I don’t want your generalization remarks be taken by Alex as a truth cause it’s not.
2nd at no point and let me repeat at no point did I say Alex is wrong to say what he did. What I pointed out was what I viewed rightly or wrongly as him trying to suggest that him pointing out what he did was in no part due to also not being a fan of Wright.
Normally I don’t reply to anything you say cause in my opinion you have this need to always make discussions about “You guys” or “Us guys” rather than focus on who said what instead but since you felt the need to input yourself in my conversation with Alex making wrong assumptions I wanted to make clear your error.
Alex is about the only person I feel I can point out a disagreement with without it resulting into a hate fest and I don’t need you trying to wreck that with your inaccuracies.
So your denying the same thing didn’t happen to reyes last year?
I get it!
Point is I didn’t mention any names over who was liked or disliked did I so therefore I made no assertion who you like and don’t like!
The reason you stopped replying to what I say is because I asked you to stop doing so if all you had to add was support for the guys I was debating and had nothing to say on the points we WERE debating!
And why did you do that?
Because they were your friends and I was not!
I don’t blame you for that just pointing out that you should not TAKE SIDES when you feel no sides exist!
Why do you and srt argue with these guys day in and day out about the same crap? I don’t understand it. Do you think suddenly they’re going to say “you know what NJ, you’re totally right! I hate David Wright and I’ve been acting like a fool all along! I’m so sorry and I’ll try and be a more rational fan in the future”?
Maybe if they just made the case for Wright instead of trying to label the poster as a hater the conversation wouldn’t go on day after day!
But thats the problem here…
Too many people prefer to talk about the poster as opposed to the facts (Despite thier claims that they don’t have sides) and thats what starts all the arguments around here…Not the data, opinion or validity of what the poster said, It’s always seems to be about the poster himself!
You HATE blah blah blah…
Your root AGAINST Blah Blah Blah…
You know what if you disagree with someone make your case and state you reasons for disagreeing and stop trying to malign the guy you disagree with…
Cause we see the reaction we get when it goes back at them and it’s clear they don’t like it when it is done to them now do they?
I pretty much agree with you Metsie, and it comes from both sides.
If you think someone is an irrational David Wright hater (or on the flip side, lover) then why bother making things into a personal argument about why they should love/hate him instead? Everyone on MMO knows everyone else pretty well (except me, I don’t comment much!) and everyone knows who the stubborn ones are.
So, like you said, the best way to go about it is to state your point about the PLAYER (not the commenter), and move on. Otherwise it turns into this daily back-and-forth personal crap that’s kind of fun to read from an outsider’s perspective, but also kind of frustrating.
Also, for the record, David Wright is an amazing ballplayer, but he should have ran much harder on that play. Regardless, it was one play, and not a big deal in the scheme of things. I’m sure if he could do it over he’d leg it out to the best of his ability. It was a routine-looking fly ball that gets caught 99.9% of the time, so I can understand why he wasn’t running at full speed. As much as everyone likes to think so, not every player is Bryce Harper who runs out foul ball pop ups like drag bunts.
Yes it does come from both sides….
And what makes it worse is both use the “Who Me?” argument when it is pointed out to them.
I also agree there is nothing wrong with taking Wright to task for his tanking it on a play!
But by the same token he must be doing something WRIGHT to be hitting .350+! LOL
So it’s small potatoes either way if you ask me!
When not running turns his BA to sub .270 or costing us games then I will be right there with them bitching away!
I just don’t get the inccessant “Your not a Fan” crap that goes on. If he wasn’t really a fan he wouldn’t care and even if he wasn’t what is the point? Is there some metric to judge who is a better fan than another or does thinking your a better fan than another make what you say more valid?
NO!
Well I don’t argue day in day out Prismo. In fact this reply is very rare by me. In this instance my only concern is having some inaccurate interpretation about what I said be taken as a truth.
Can’t speak for Jerz.
I initially commented back as I felt my comment on Wright was misinterpreted.
I normally do not jump into the daily same old, same old ‘debates’..
Sorry 4d I didn’t mean to single you guys out, you know I love you all!
Come on, Alex…you do hate Wright. You’ve been commenting on that since the days of Metsblog.
You wanted to trade him off season for Hanely – even swap. Hanley, the king of slacking off to the point of having to be benched for it.
No one is excusing Wright for not hustling and no one is trying to talk you out of not liking Wright.
I would be a hypocrite not to call out David for lack of hustle last night, even though he is one of my favorites. But I would leave it at that and not carry it past last night’s game unless it starts becoming a habit.
Valdy’s was more inexcusable. A rookie mired five years in the minors should be hustling his rear end off in order to make an impression. I agree, Terry should have taken him out of the game immediately for disciplinary reasons and not doing that in itself is surprising based on the no-nonsense philosophy attributed to the new regime.
When it starts costing us games or makes his BA plummet then I will start bitching about it!
When the guy is hitting .350+ and we are winning games largely due to his bat it’s notable but insignificant!
I hope Valdy succeeds, but I have to wonder what mentality he brings to the game now, and whether or not he will be a quick study and improve. I’m not going to cast aspersions on the guy, and I hope he dazzles us in the coming weeks.
Condemn mistakes, yes, but always look to see how a player bounces back and makes up for wrongdoing.
Thing is, that could’ve been an important play at the end, and noone pointed that out… Had we lost the game i am sure nobody would’ve mentioned that play, it was all gonna be on the bullpen for blowing the game
Yes it could have but no moreso than the valdespin example because if they had gotten the double play on that one it would have preventing the KNOWN winning run from scoring!
Both are wrong there is no denying that!
Every player should run every play out at full speed.
I don’t think anyone really disagrees with it they are only arguing with you because they don’t want to hear about Wright anymore!
I don’t think anyone really disagrees with it they are only arguing with you because they don’t want to hear about Wright anymore!”
Thing is metsie, people here claim he’s a leader blah blah blah, yet he does this? and NOONE says anything about it?
Well look at what is really going on from a leadership standpoint?
He is the leader if only by default! LOL There isn’t another guy capable of doing it!
Yes he should be setting a better example….
But Wright has no REAL desire to be the leader…If he had he would have taken up that Mantle during the two seasons (1 year) Beltran went missing.
You know how some guys just don’t have the makeup to be a closer? (i.e. Parnell?)
Some guys don’t have the mettle to be a team leader either!
Wright is one of those quiet personality types and prefers to just do his work and that’s it.
He lets his bat lead not his voice. But he should let his hustle lead as well…Doesn’t seem to be the case here.
Players do look up to him thats for sure but I don’t ever see Wright going up to someone and asking them if they wanted to go to the indoor cage to work on thier slump the way Beltran did!
He might be our leader but he would much prefer someone else had the job if I am reading him and his body language correctly.
I heard today that David Wright took a 1 hour nap on his day off. This guy is so lazy. Let us now have 50 comments following this one about how much we hate the best player on our team like all the other fan bases do for their best player.
Ready. Go!
Oh please, you did the same thing to our best player last year, Jose Reyes. Calling him greedy, injury prone, and instead of celebrating that he won the batting title, you said him coming out of the game was a “bush league move”.
I don’t see how what’s going on now with Wright, is any different than what you did to Reyes last year.
Can you show me where every day I nitpicked Jose Reyes?
He is injury prone… that’s not a knock? If a player is on the DL alot… what is that? A big secret?
And yes it was a bush league move and it was his final game as a Met.
These people have been knocking Wright every day for 8 years. It has nothing to do with Jose Reyes. Me not wanting Reyes for 6 years doesn’t equal nit picking everything Wright does.
If the Mets re-signed Reyes, I wouldn’t have been mad. If the Mets re-sign Wright, these people will actually complain about it.
And Wright didn’t run out a flyball! Thats not a knock?
It doesn’t matter if you were right or wrong about Reyes. The point is that you criticized the team’s best player last year. And now your upset that people are criticizing the best player this year.
You can’t get made at people for doing the same thing you did just as recent as last year.
BTW Reyes wasn’t greedy til free agency so I don’t see how that compares. He wasn’t a Met anymore when I called him greedy.
Yeah just like we did last year when Reyes was the bgest player on our team!
Lets all get nostalgic why don’t we?
Is this about the point where you play the “Who Me?” game you usually do when you complain about others doing what you have done in the past?
There’s a difference.
You don’t want David Wright here. If the Mets signed Reyes, I would have been happy still that he was a NY Met.
You come off as though you, and others actually root against David Wright. As though you don’t want him to succeed or sign with the Mets.
You don’t want the Mets to sign him not because of financial of contractual reasons, you don’t want the Mets to sign David Wright because you simply do not like him.
That is the difference. I genuinely liked Jose but didn’t see it as a smart BASEBALL DECISION to sign him to 6+ years.
You have no “baseball management” reasons for talking about Wright’s future here. You talk about him like you don’t want him to be a Met ever.
I think your just trying to make the posters who you don’t like seem radical and look bad. Nobody is rooting for David Wright to fail – Saying that just seems like your trying to demonize some of the posters here.
Everyone here is rooting for Wright to succeed. The thing is, there are posters here who dislike his style of play. Which is fine. There were people who also disliked Reyes’ style of play, and that’s fine too. But that does NOT mean they are rooting for the player to fail. And you have to realize that lot of stuff is said out of emotion during games and directly after them.
He’s right back to the You root against, Your not a Fan Your insane crap he always runs to whenever his own bullshit gets fed right back at him!
He pretty much HATED the idea of resigning Reyes!
He says he wanted him but truth is the only way he would have wanted him back is if he was willing to take a pay cut….Which he actually did for the next two years!
Yeah and who pray tell defended Wright today ALL day there Slappy?
Don’t look now but it’s time to taste that pile of bullshit you just posted and tell everyone how good it tastes!
As for your bull about wanting Reyes back well you made every case and excuse you could possibly think of to NOT sign him not even negotiate and wrote full pieces on it!
Your so full of it Homeland security would label you WMD…
Weapon of Massive Dungballs!
The possibility for an adult conversation ended when you said “Weapon of Massive Dungballs!”
I am not looking to talk baseball with an 11 year old who hears dirty or silly words and tries to use them every chance he gets.
Therefore I won’t be responding in full. Please continue pretending you do not root against David Wright. You, Bayonne, Alex, Maniac… all the same. You want him to fail because you’d rather be “right” than Wright be “good.”
Too bad you weren’t talking baseball….
You were having the 3 year old conversation of “Your not a FAN!”
You ROOT AGAINST….(The guy I defended all friggin day!)
You Hate…blah blah blah
You sound like a 3 year old arguing with his sibling over who loves Mommy more….
Please do us all a favor…don’t respond at all if all you got to add to the discussion is:
“It’s ok when Jessup does something but anyone else who does it, hates the player, is not a fan or is insane!”
Hi Jessep,
I was a big Jose fan but agree with you about what Reyes pulled on the final day being bush league. Jose did not display much character in terms of a competitor that afternoon which really caught us all off-guard.
However, there is still the question of whether Jose left us or the team didn’t want him. Don’t believe there is a middle ground in this one for I honestly believe the front office had no intention of re-signing him, especially in light of Sandy saying talks will begin with David’s agent over the winter while all he ever said about Jose was that he was going to wait and see. And it wasn’t until the summer that we saw Tejada could finally hit major league pitching so it’s not like we had the heir apparent waiting in the wings.
Was a gutsy move on the part of Sandy and his people making taking such an unpopular stand but what upsets me about it was the money saved by not re-signing Jose was not applied to building up the team in other ways.
T
Joey D: Look, I loved Reyes. But every single game I can guarantee you I wasn’t nitpicking his performance. When it comes to talking contract yes I mentioned he was injury prone. Or when he actually got injured I said it.
I never commented on Mets wins and looked at his performance only. Never. There are people on this site who seem to watch a Mets game simply for the sake to be negative toward Wright.
Reyes’ performance in the final game will forever stick with me as a lasting memory. There’s a few things to note here.
You make a valid point, maybe the Mets didn’t want him to play the whole game. This is fully possible. But why didn’t he fight for it? We saw David Wright get taken out of a game and fight for the right to keep playing.
I will always believe that Reyes had a very good idea that was his final game in a Mets uniform. You can’t tell me he thought it was less than a 50/50 chance.
He could have shown some effort to keep playing or here’s a wild idea. If you wanna win a batting title, play the game til the next AB.
I care less that he bunted for the hit and more about the bush league excuse that it was for a batting title. What could running the bases do to the batting title? Playing the field?
If David Wright plays 1 AB in his final Mets game, check back… I’ll be all over him for it also.
Hi Jessep,
No arguments with me about the points you raised regarding Jose. I just also wanted to expand upon the issue you raised regarding those who accused Reyes of being greedy.
Even if Sandy was informally given a general idea of what his agent was seeking and that was not in line with the Mets were willing to pay, the principle behind negotiation is for each party to start off with their highest and lowest offers and then try to work on a compromise of mutual benefit. Had Sandy wanted to re-sign Jose, he would have been dealing with his agent to come to some sort of settlement. Had a contract offer been made that Jose turned down ,or if his agent was refusing to budge from their original demands, then the front office would have no other recourse and yes – Jose would deserve the rap of money being the main issue. But he was never given that opportunity since there were no formal discussions or offers for him to turn down and thus such accusation is unfounded.
But the Mets try to spin it in a different light. Notice whenever the subject is raised on SNY it is always Jose who left the Mets to become a free agent with no mention about the front office organization making any attempt to keep him? Now, as I said, it was a gutsy and unpopular move by the front office but understandable taking into account Jose’s salary demands, age, injury history and Ruben Tejada out on the horizon. But, at the same time, it wasn’t a case of Jose simply leaving as the front office tries to make it appear as it was being told he wasn’t a part of the Mets future plans.
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The current time frame with both Tulo and Ruben out of their respective lineups is really the only time Tulo and Tejada have much in common. One is a great player, the other is a holding action until a gifted shortstop arrives at Citi.
Tulowitzki has won the Gold Glove, Silver Slugger Award and gone to the All-Star Game each of the last two years. He was batting .287 with eight homers and 27 RBIs. The Rockies have struggled mightily in his absence, losing 12 of their last 13 games.
Have the Mets struggled with Ruben out of the lineup? Or does the Mets place in the standings tell us otherwise? The Mets are at .543 with a 38-32 record, good for second place.
Des: He’s trying to compare Tulo to Reyes. Because I didn’t want reyes for a 6 year deal, that means I apparently like Tulo’s contract because I think Tulo is a better player.
Colorado did the same type of deal with Helton because of what he meant to that franchise. They have figured keeping their players is better than roster flexibility. That is their choice. I wouldn’t want Tulo signed for 10 years here in NY but if he was, I wouldn’t root against him (like people here would if Wright was signed to 10 years)
Tulo is a bigger superstar, better hitter, better fielder, and better leader than Reyes.
It’s not a knock on Reyes to be worse than Tulo.
People like to mention Coors Field as a way to knock Tulo down, as though playing in spacious Citi Field last year didn’t help Reyes at all.
Since the Rockies made it to the World Series, Tulo has hit 7 more HR at home than on the road. That is hardly enough HR to warrant a “he benefits from Coors Field power.” argument.
Down the stretch in 2007 when his team needed him the most, Tulo hit .312 with 12HR and 52 RBI in August+September of 2007 to help his team get to the playoffs.
For somebody like Alex who harps on “clutch” hitting so much with Wright, you’d think he’d appreciate that stat as compared to I don’t know, say Jose’s .205 average in September of 2007 or .243 in September of 2008?
If you ask me which player should get a 10 year deal, I say neither. I don’t understand why teams do that. But if you ask me which deserved a 6 year deal when each of them signed their contracts, I’d say Tulo without a doubt over Reyes.
This happened 2 days ago, and frankly I cannot do anything about a player getting injured. He’s not on the Mets. He’s still a better and more valuable player at his position than Jose Reyes.
I am not the one who signed him to a long deal. Colorado is different than the NY Mets. A player like Tulo means more to that fan base and franchise than Jose means to the Mets.
So I’m not sure why you continuously throw him in my face. When the argument happened I said he was a bigger superstar than Jose. That was the statement that drove you nuts. And it’s true, so I’m not sure why you think you have a case.
jessep — Jose Reyes is a fine player, bordering sometimes on a great player. But his actions on the last day of the season to win the title were AOK only in the current decade of moral relativism. Couple that with the Greenberg-Jose attempt to deal with the Wilpons in the media tell us a lot about who Jose really is. In short, he’s a gullible near-superstar who was willing to do any expedient action to pad his pockets or increase his fame. Guess what? It backfired. (P.S.: I blame Greenberg for molding his impressionable player into just a famous meal ticket.)
As for Tulo, I too would not have given him a contract going out past the turn of the next decade. That was the decision of the Rockies management. Why did they offer such a contract? Their management has publicly stated that Tulo is a great athlete, a team leader, a throwback to the old days when a person’s word was as good as his signature, and a fan favorite. Hmm. Just like Jose, isn’t he? LOL.
I agree with everything you say here.
What I find most humorous is that “old school” baseball fans hates things like sabermetrics, or statistical analysis to evaluate players, pitch counts etc.
Yet it seems like those same people who brag about disliking that stuff are the ones giving Reyes a pass on something no “old school” baseball fan would ever allow.
Reyes to me is a tier 3 player. I’d go superstar, great, slightly less than great. He can be great sometimes as you say, and other times he blends in. He was on his way to becoming a superstar and he fell short.
A batting title is great. Wonderful job. I personally do not value it as much as others do, and that is fine. I think its a nice personal accomplishment and I don’t blame him for wanting to ensure he won it.
I blame him for not running the bases, not fighting to stay in the game (if it was managements call), not playing the field after the AB, and not recognizing the moment of possibly leaving your homegrown team is bigger than winning a batting title.
All of those statements do not mean I think Tulo’s 10 year deal was a great idea. But I don’t have to worry about that because he’s not on my team.
If you ask me from 2007 through 2011 which SS would I rather on the Mets purely based on talent and not makeup of the team, it’s Tulo.
“What I find most humorous is that “old school” baseball fans hates things like sabermetrics, or statistical analysis to evaluate players, pitch counts etc.
Yet it seems like those same people who brag about disliking that stuff are the ones giving Reyes a pass on something no “old school” baseball fan would ever allow.”
Hi Jessup,
Hope that doesn’t include those “old school” fans like me.
Also, it was Jose’s desire to be taken out after that hit and had nothing to do with Terry Collins or anyone else.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-09-28/sports/30240041_1_milwaukee-s-ryan-braun-jose-reyes-justin-turner
Wait, how am i throwing in your face…? i am just reporting that the best SS in the game is ONCE AGAIN injured… How is it that a player on the DL as of right now is more valuable than any other SS playing? how is Tulo more valuable than jimmy Rollins who is actually playing? Funny how i see post about Werth and other players making over $100 million being overpaying etc but nothing about this guy who somehow is signed through 2021 at about $20 million per and as of RIGHT NOW, his body is breaking down and can’t seem to put back to back season of 150+ games…. Yep, that guy is more valuable to a franchise… Not sure how, but he is.. SMH… #injuryproneashell
Alex: “Funny how i see post about Werth and other players making over $100 million being overpaying etc but nothing about this guy”
Weird. Maybe you didn’t see it because you don’t actually read what I say, you pick specific words I say and make up your own opinion for me.
When the story was Jose wanted Crawford $, I wrote this piece. Nobody expected Jose would take a 6yr/100 ish mil at that time. We ALL Thought he wanted Crawford like money. Things changed obviously, but at the time my piece was written about how players usually begin to decline after they sign these $100mil deals and teams often look at them as mistakes rather than worthy investments.
Here’s proof for you with regards to what I said about Tulo (not what you say I said)
May 24, 2011 “$100 Million Men: A Look Back”
“This past November, Troy Tulowitzki signed a 10 year deal with the Rockies worth $157million. I think Tulo is a great player, but that great? He is only 26 years old, so he’s still within the prime of his career which is a positive for this contract. However, Tulo has never put up a season comparable to say Ryan Howard. Tulo is a rare power threat at SS and the team’s leader though. “