Unfortunately, the Mets do not have the cash so there goes any thought of obtaining anyone without giving up someone paramount to our future. That I would be against. Otherwise, it’s a shame for with clubs in dire economic straits, we know how much money talks in both directions – dumping and obtaining – just through our own recent appearances.

2007-2008 offseason we trade for Johan (Great Move) Santana and did nothing else,.

2008-2009 offseason we sign yet another free agent closer and trade for an injured set up man Putz and did absolutely nothing else. Oh right, we gave Ollie a 3 year deal out of desperation.

2009-2010 offseason we sign Jason Bay and 2 unknown Japanese pitchers to a team supposedly in win now mode. RA Dickey which was a moved that was mocked by not only the media but Met fans.

So the last 4 offseasons by Omar weren’t exactly filled with a flury of activity. It was fill one hole at a time each offseason.

But to say he’s mediocre is just uninformed.

438 G, 456IP, 467 K, 117BB, 1.05 WHIP 3.04 ERA for his career

Since 09 when he joined the NL he’s gone
191 G, 187 IP, 152 H, 196K, 39 BB, 1.02 WHIP, 3.27 ERA

I can’t even imagine where somebody would get the word “mediocre” to describe those numbers, besides the part of the body below their tailbone.

. Who knew the National League was so bad? Nothing sells seats like a pennent race. Sold seats helps the cash flow. Two more arms and this bullpen will be good. Is now the time to win? If so bring up Harvey and Wheeler. Move Young and Gee to the Bullpen. Those guys could throw 3 or 4 inning saves. That would take the load off the other relievers.

you never eally anlyze anything, you announce your stance over and over and ove and pretend the evidence is in your favor.

sandy is doing well. the team is playing well, making the right calls and acquiring good talent.

also all of this is speculation. rubin says no closer is coming. who said no bats are coming? do we presume to know everything because of the existence of twitter?

Didn’t know you two had that 303 IQ thing going on between you.

Mine is like that, only with a decimal point in front of the number – like Peter Griffin!

About six months ago Metsie said he had a IQ of 303 to try and leverage his argument against mine. To get a rise I bring it up every once in a while. And yes I presented the same information to him as you did to me.

Omar didn’t leave the system totally barren, but he was never able to draft a star and the minor league system really struggled to develop the talent that he brought in. the 2009 draft really set the organization back as it’s the reason why we’ve had no young guys in AAA at all until very recently.

My point is filling a need with the “best player on the market” usually works against you. The Mets bullpen also is a lot different now than it was even 2 weeks ago so we need to evaluate the most recent changes (adding a 2nd lefty) before we can say what we need for sure.

If you want another lefty, call AA in Toronto and ask for our old friend Darren Oliver. He’s having another great year out of the pen.

I don’t know, call me nuts but I don’t see that being a great mix for the Mets.

In my view the Mets need middle relief help. They need guys they can count on so they do not over extend the late inning guys.

I’d rather see them find another lefty (hard to do) or another reliable RHP out of the pen. Kind of the way Heilman used to be.

Glen Perkins – Min
Jared Burton – Min
Aaron Crow – Kcy
Kelvin Herrera – Kcy
Charlie Furbush – Sea
Tom Wilhelmsen – Sea
Shawn Kelley – Sea
Grant Balfour – Oak
Shawn Camp – Chc
Brandon Lyon – Hou
Wilton Lopez – Hou (DL)
Kameron Loe – Mil
Luke Gregerson – SD
Matt Belisle (col)

A left could be Colorado’s Rex Brothers? Pretty young though…

But these are the guys I’d be “happy” with. Everybody else would just be an addition that I’d be more of a wait and see with.

I didn’t. I recall that the inactivity came back to bite us on the backside, especially in 2008. To not only fall apart for the 2nd year in a row, but to watch our rival win it all was BRUTAL. They won’t be sacrificing the future for a mediocre reliever. The difference now from year’s past is now we have the flexibility in the farm to make that sacrifice. The last few years, the main complaint here was “We don’t have enough from the farm to get (insert name here)”. Now, it’s transformed to “We can’t sacrifice the future”.

Look at the roster and the minors, I think Omar has left this organization in pretty good shape