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		<title>By: sarge69</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarge69</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 04:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fan since 69 having just returned from exile to a foreign island, Puerto Rico, I has a sports team that I could listen too, not too many games on tv back the plus had only one b/w so had to share but listened to as many radio games as possible running home from school to listen to my beloved Mets.

When Seaver was traded I was in a state of paralysis for almost 6 years until the intro of Keith, Doc, and Straw AND a GM  that knew what he had to do to build a winner, you listening SA?

Anyway it is hard to read this post as many of the details I have read over the years and the part that D. Young played has never been given it&#039;s due in the Hall of Shame in Shea!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fan since 69 having just returned from exile to a foreign island, Puerto Rico, I has a sports team that I could listen too, not too many games on tv back the plus had only one b/w so had to share but listened to as many radio games as possible running home from school to listen to my beloved Mets.</p>
<p>When Seaver was traded I was in a state of paralysis for almost 6 years until the intro of Keith, Doc, and Straw AND a GM  that knew what he had to do to build a winner, you listening SA?</p>
<p>Anyway it is hard to read this post as many of the details I have read over the years and the part that D. Young played has never been given it&#8217;s due in the Hall of Shame in Shea!</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So Alex are you comparing Jose Reyes, et. al. to the greatest player in Mets history? One of the greatest pitchers in baseball history? 

Damn straight I rooted for Seaver! I followed him when he was with the Reds, Back to the Mets, and then with the White Sox and Red Sox!

Do I miss Carlos Beltran and Reyes? Yes, but they are a mere blip on the radar as compared to Tom Seaver and what Seaver meant to the Mets AND NEW YORK CITY!!!

If you want to take it a step further - look at Eddie G when he returned to face the Rangers; Walt Frazier when he came back to the Garden to face the Knicks; Patrick Ewing. These were guys who transcended their sports and became NYC Icons. Tom Seaver will always be my favorite Met.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Alex are you comparing Jose Reyes, et. al. to the greatest player in Mets history? One of the greatest pitchers in baseball history? </p>
<p>Damn straight I rooted for Seaver! I followed him when he was with the Reds, Back to the Mets, and then with the White Sox and Red Sox!</p>
<p>Do I miss Carlos Beltran and Reyes? Yes, but they are a mere blip on the radar as compared to Tom Seaver and what Seaver meant to the Mets AND NEW YORK CITY!!!</p>
<p>If you want to take it a step further &#8211; look at Eddie G when he returned to face the Rangers; Walt Frazier when he came back to the Garden to face the Knicks; Patrick Ewing. These were guys who transcended their sports and became NYC Icons. Tom Seaver will always be my favorite Met.</p>
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		<title>By: Metsie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Metsie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Dick Young was a well known and extremely controversial sportswriter for The Daily News&quot;

What many may not realize is Dick Young was also hired by the Mets each year to write the scripts for thier YEARBOOKS which you can see since SNY replays them all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dick Young was a well known and extremely controversial sportswriter for The Daily News&#8221;</p>
<p>What many may not realize is Dick Young was also hired by the Mets each year to write the scripts for thier YEARBOOKS which you can see since SNY replays them all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 15:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done! And, yes I remember it well. I remember Seaver on the news with tears in his eyes. That one trade launched the Mets into a darl era that didn&#039;t end until Wilpon and Doubleday took over. Shea was a ghost town during the late 1970&#039;s. It truly was a sad time to be a Met fan.
Let&#039;s hope all these years later Mr. Wilpon remembers that when it comes time to re-signing Mr. Wright. If David goes we&#039;ll be re-entering the dark ages again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done! And, yes I remember it well. I remember Seaver on the news with tears in his eyes. That one trade launched the Mets into a darl era that didn&#8217;t end until Wilpon and Doubleday took over. Shea was a ghost town during the late 1970&#8242;s. It truly was a sad time to be a Met fan.<br />
Let&#8217;s hope all these years later Mr. Wilpon remembers that when it comes time to re-signing Mr. Wright. If David goes we&#8217;ll be re-entering the dark ages again.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 14:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A great posting T.D.....and so many great comments. 

While so many fans have been angry at the Wilpon&#039;s and very critical, I have not been one of them. I think they always were willing to give us a winner. The results were not good but they spent lots of money looking to better the team over the years. The one thing that has bothered me is that they did not have a big bronze statue in front of the new ballpark to honor # 41 who certainly changed the face of the franchise when he first took the mound in 1967 for us.

But without a doubt, I will never forgive M Donald Grant for that day in 1977. He and his crony Dick Young should both be reincarnated....only to die a slow agonizing death.  

My favorite Seaver memory other than his &quot;imperfect game&quot; and the strikeout game against the Padres is remembering my father&#039;s favorite words spoken whenever the Mets would get an early run or two in a game. Dad would always say, there&#039;s your support Tom....make it stick!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great posting T.D&#8230;..and so many great comments. </p>
<p>While so many fans have been angry at the Wilpon&#8217;s and very critical, I have not been one of them. I think they always were willing to give us a winner. The results were not good but they spent lots of money looking to better the team over the years. The one thing that has bothered me is that they did not have a big bronze statue in front of the new ballpark to honor # 41 who certainly changed the face of the franchise when he first took the mound in 1967 for us.</p>
<p>But without a doubt, I will never forgive M Donald Grant for that day in 1977. He and his crony Dick Young should both be reincarnated&#8230;.only to die a slow agonizing death.  </p>
<p>My favorite Seaver memory other than his &#8220;imperfect game&#8221; and the strikeout game against the Padres is remembering my father&#8217;s favorite words spoken whenever the Mets would get an early run or two in a game. Dad would always say, there&#8217;s your support Tom&#8230;.make it stick!</p>
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		<title>By: William H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>William H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I took all my Tom Seaver baseball cards the next morning and me and my father went to a hobby shop to buy a baseball card binder and a set of baseball card sheets and protectors. Before the Tom Seaver trade I didn&#039;t collect baseball cards, they were just for flipping and using the scrubs cards to rev up your bike and putting them in your spokes. That binder became a lasting memorial to No. 41 and I added to it and tried to buy and trade for all the Tom Seaver Mets cards that I could. That was the day I lost my innocence. It felt like someone close to me died and it took a while to get over it. Grant became enemy number one. I didn&#039;t even know or cared who the GM was for the Mets until that day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took all my Tom Seaver baseball cards the next morning and me and my father went to a hobby shop to buy a baseball card binder and a set of baseball card sheets and protectors. Before the Tom Seaver trade I didn&#8217;t collect baseball cards, they were just for flipping and using the scrubs cards to rev up your bike and putting them in your spokes. That binder became a lasting memorial to No. 41 and I added to it and tried to buy and trade for all the Tom Seaver Mets cards that I could. That was the day I lost my innocence. It felt like someone close to me died and it took a while to get over it. Grant became enemy number one. I didn&#8217;t even know or cared who the GM was for the Mets until that day.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 13:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was ten years old.  I cried, no lie.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was ten years old.  I cried, no lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I openly rooted for the Reds whenever Seaver pitched&quot;

so wait, you rooted for another team just because you like the player?? Hmmmm.... I will wait to see if you get the same comments i get when i say i root for Hansley and Jose Reyes...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I openly rooted for the Reds whenever Seaver pitched&#8221;</p>
<p>so wait, you rooted for another team just because you like the player?? Hmmmm&#8230;. I will wait to see if you get the same comments i get when i say i root for Hansley and Jose Reyes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still remember reading the Star Ledger&#039;s sports headline reporting the Seaver trade.  Living in NJ that was the paper we had delivered at the time.  Dad just handed it to me, I read it and said something like &#039;What?  Why?&#039;.

&#039;It was the loss of innocence for many and served as a stark reminder that when all was said and done, Baseball was a business. Not a game.&#039;

Well said.  That&#039;s exactly when I came to this realization.  Watching as a kid back then you didn&#039;t really get - or more to the point pay attention - to the business aspect of baseball.  It was a game and you rooted for the team you loved.  Having just graduated High School when that trade went down, it was the first of many lessons on the road to reality as an adult.  

Should have never happened.  Grant just never got the he wasn&#039;t going to stop the free agency train.  The business of baseball had changed but Grant refused to change with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still remember reading the Star Ledger&#8217;s sports headline reporting the Seaver trade.  Living in NJ that was the paper we had delivered at the time.  Dad just handed it to me, I read it and said something like &#8216;What?  Why?&#8217;.</p>
<p>&#8216;It was the loss of innocence for many and served as a stark reminder that when all was said and done, Baseball was a business. Not a game.&#8217;</p>
<p>Well said.  That&#8217;s exactly when I came to this realization.  Watching as a kid back then you didn&#8217;t really get &#8211; or more to the point pay attention &#8211; to the business aspect of baseball.  It was a game and you rooted for the team you loved.  Having just graduated High School when that trade went down, it was the first of many lessons on the road to reality as an adult.  </p>
<p>Should have never happened.  Grant just never got the he wasn&#8217;t going to stop the free agency train.  The business of baseball had changed but Grant refused to change with it.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:20:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was a senior in HS when this trade went down. I openly rooted for the Reds whenever Seaver pitched. I was at Shea when Seaver returned.  Ed Kranepool broke up a shutout with a 2 run shot in the ninth.

My most vivid memory of that era (78ish) was going out to Shea on a whim with my brother to see the Mets play the Giants. We arrived just as the 2nd inning ended - parked almost right in front of the big Shea Stadium sign (empty parking lot and even emptier ballpark). AND snuck down to seats right behind the Mets dugout. Nobody cared.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a senior in HS when this trade went down. I openly rooted for the Reds whenever Seaver pitched. I was at Shea when Seaver returned.  Ed Kranepool broke up a shutout with a 2 run shot in the ninth.</p>
<p>My most vivid memory of that era (78ish) was going out to Shea on a whim with my brother to see the Mets play the Giants. We arrived just as the 2nd inning ended &#8211; parked almost right in front of the big Shea Stadium sign (empty parking lot and even emptier ballpark). AND snuck down to seats right behind the Mets dugout. Nobody cared.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rob, great piece, i am not going to pretend i knew everything that was going on, but my father (who is a dodgers fan) told this might&#039;ve been the biggest mistake in franchise history, and till this day it is... the worst part of it was who he was traded for was what bother everyone, i don&#039;t even think the players he was traded for felt warm in NY. 
Doug Flyn was nothing special, a good glove and had a solid defense, never was the type of hitter you knew was gonna hit 300 or 20 hr&#039;s in a season
Steve Henderson was the guy i liked the most, i really thought after his rookie season we had a position player who were gonna be a stud, after hitting almost 300 with 12 HR and 65 RBI during his rookie season i had really high expectation, and to be honest, I liked this guy as my new Fav met Lol... To be fair, he later was traded for kingman.. Feel Better? :-)
Dan Norman... POS
Pat Zachry, the 1976 ROY had a lot of promising.. He struggle in his second year with the reds, but after being traded to us, i don&#039;t think he was a bad pitcher, he was hurt and that is why he just became irrelevant... 
Great piece though]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob, great piece, i am not going to pretend i knew everything that was going on, but my father (who is a dodgers fan) told this might&#8217;ve been the biggest mistake in franchise history, and till this day it is&#8230; the worst part of it was who he was traded for was what bother everyone, i don&#8217;t even think the players he was traded for felt warm in NY.<br />
Doug Flyn was nothing special, a good glove and had a solid defense, never was the type of hitter you knew was gonna hit 300 or 20 hr&#8217;s in a season<br />
Steve Henderson was the guy i liked the most, i really thought after his rookie season we had a position player who were gonna be a stud, after hitting almost 300 with 12 HR and 65 RBI during his rookie season i had really high expectation, and to be honest, I liked this guy as my new Fav met Lol&#8230; To be fair, he later was traded for kingman.. Feel Better? <img src='http://smhttp.18058.nexcesscdn.net/808D60/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Dan Norman&#8230; POS<br />
Pat Zachry, the 1976 ROY had a lot of promising.. He struggle in his second year with the reds, but after being traded to us, i don&#8217;t think he was a bad pitcher, he was hurt and that is why he just became irrelevant&#8230;<br />
Great piece though</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy2cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommy2cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 11:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a great article, which captures the essence and depth of the Midnight Massacre. From that era, I recall the Mets had a mascot - &quot;Mettle&quot; the mule - that they kept in the bullpen. The fans nicknamed him &quot;M. Donald Mule&quot;. I think he ate the rest of Joe Pignatano&#039;s tomatoes.

Yeah, I was a junior in high school when Seaver got traded, and promptly turned my attention away from the team I was born to love until 1981 when Hubie and Mookie came on the scene, when Nelson Doubleday emerged as the principal owner and when Frank Cashen took the reigns of our beloved franchise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a great article, which captures the essence and depth of the Midnight Massacre. From that era, I recall the Mets had a mascot &#8211; &#8220;Mettle&#8221; the mule &#8211; that they kept in the bullpen. The fans nicknamed him &#8220;M. Donald Mule&#8221;. I think he ate the rest of Joe Pignatano&#8217;s tomatoes.</p>
<p>Yeah, I was a junior in high school when Seaver got traded, and promptly turned my attention away from the team I was born to love until 1981 when Hubie and Mookie came on the scene, when Nelson Doubleday emerged as the principal owner and when Frank Cashen took the reigns of our beloved franchise.</p>
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