16
2012
Mejia Will Start Saturday For B-Mets
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The New York Mets have announced that RHP Jenrry Mejia will leave his Florida rehab assignment with St. Lucie and head north to join up with the AA Binghamton club to make a start for them this weekend.
The B-Mets will be in Maine playing the Portland Sea Dogs on Saturday afternoon. The 1:35 PM game will be the second of the series against the last place Sea Dogs (14-25, 9.5 GB), and Mejia’s start would be in place of Darin Gorski. Gorski’s start would more than likely just be pushed ahead to Sunday’s rubber match.
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So Gary Cohen says “this is an aggressive Cincinnati team not standing around looking for walks”
Ron Darling responds “this is the anti-Mets approach”
Their exact words thanks to DVR
I like this philosophy. Old school normal baseball not standing around waiting to back your way into victory.
The Mets have the 6th highest batting average in Major League Baseball.
The Mets have the 6th most walks in Major League Baseball.
And….
15th in RS and 16th in RBI
Still think OBP is important to high RS?
RBI doesn’t create runs. It is the after thought of a run. Please catch up to 1998 at least.
The Mets run production problem is due to the heart of the order not hitting. They are near bottom in home runs and middle of the road in slugging. That there is the problem. The guy who is getting the most chances on the team with RISP, Ike, can’t hit his weight right now. And Duda isn’t fairing too well either (although, he has improved in BA, his power is nowhere to be found).
If they didn’t have the high OBP, they wouldn’t be scoring at all. They are small balling their way around the bases. the problem is, that rarely works in a 162 game season and never works in the playoffs.
so you agree doesn’t matter really if you have a high OBP it does not correlate to high RS if the guys behind the OBP don’t drive them in!
Thank You! took two years but finally you get it!
Yes, if the guys behind you have a low OBP, you are less likely to be driven in. Espeically if those guys are suppsoe dto be powe rhitters.
OBP is still more important to scoring runs than RBI for reasons you can’t rap your head around.
Yeah well the team is 6th in OBP so there goes that theory about the low OBP behind something….
Power hitters are not supposed to have high OBP!
In case you didn’t know that!
They are supposed to have HIGH RBI which you still fail to understand!
TEXAS RANGERS….TORONTO BLUE JAYS!
No, RBI is a bye product to run scoring. RBI is to run scoring as alimony is to divorce.
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Yeah well the team is 6th in OBP so there goes that theory about the low OBP behind something….”
Almost dead last in HR but middle of the pack in scoring runs. You can dismiss high OBP, but you’ll just continue being silly. If the Mets didn’t have the high OBP, they’d be i nthe cellar of runs scored as well as HR.
“Power hitters are not supposed to have high OBP!
In case you didn’t know that!”
Tell that to Albert Pujols. And Babe Ruth. And Barry Bonds. And Ted Williams.
But you go ahead and hold up…Steve Balboni and Mike Jacobs?
“They are supposed to have HIGH RBI which you still fail to understand!”
You get a lot of RBIs when you hit for power frequently behind guys with good OBP.
“TEXAS RANGERS….TORONTO BLUE JAYS!”
Hey, who leads the AL in OBP and Runs Scored?
Why look, the Texas Rangers.
OBP and runs scored correlates pretty well despite Toronto and that is usually because of this guy named Bautista. This year so far, Encarcion leads them in HR…and is #2 in OBP for them with a .340.
Ahhhh so OBP is only important if you have Something else and the something else isn’t AS important as the OBP but without it OBP fails!
Yeah that makes a ton of sense….On the D Train to Pluto!
So RBI is an after thought now? I wish Duda provided us with an after thought with Wright on 3B there. But i guess the more important thing is the OBP and Wright did that, too bad the less important thing didn’t happen and that’s the RBI.
But the more important OBP happened even though to get the run we needed the less important RBI
“Back into a victory?” That may be the most insane thing I ever heard!!! Its Baseball! A Sport! You play to win!!! So you wouldn’t accept a win if it came in the way of a walk off walk? The Met hitter’s approach is solid, sound, and as you put it “old school baseball” guys like Joe D. and Ted Williams used to see a ton of pitches per at bat. If I remember, when the Skanks went on their run in the late 90′s, they were notorious for going deep in the count during every at bat getting into the opponents bullpen early. It worked pretty well for them!!! New School, Old School, No School, it’s just smart sound baseball!
In the book Ted Williams they talk about how Ted refused to swing at pitches that he couldn’t make solid contact on. This went so far as he would strike out during a hit and run because he didn’t like the pitch. I don’t recommend this type of play but alot of old school greats used this approach. I personally was never good enough at pitch recognition to accomplish this feet so I have respect for the professionals that do.
Yeah but Ted didn’t take fastballs down the middle of the plate 2-0 and 3-0 either!
That is the one thing the Ted Williams referrers simply don’t take into account when they talk about his book and what he said about approach!
Ted went up there to hit not to “Not make an OUT!”
Players today seemed more concerned with not making an out that they are getting a hit and thats what Bayonne is referring to!
Take today as a good example….
Duda has been struggling a bit but today he got hits, one on a 3-0 count and another on 2-0 another on 1-0, His Failure? Looking at a called strike with two strikes on him! The cardinal Sin of batting that says you swing at anything close enough to call with two strikes on you!
When he was aggressive he got hits, when he went passive he got called out on strikes!
funny we posted about the same time and you make me want to bring up another point about Lucas Duda. He may be the poster boy example of a guy who didn’t need a proactive philosophy change.
Don’t forget that yesterday he let a 3-0 meatball go by with a runner on 1st and the team down 3-0. He’s a middle of the order guy, his job it to go up there and drive the ball and especially with runners on, not work the pitcher. He has to start swinging a lot again, he is definitely swinging the bat less than last year and it’s counterproductive.
A kid like Duda you have to let him learn to TRUST his aggressiveness, not take that away from him. Once he learns to trust his aggressiveness he’ll be able to show more restraint on pitches he doesn’t like. Coming in here with a new philosophy and being proactive, in his case, can do more damage than anything else. And that’s what I think is happening with him.
It’s as simple as this Bayonne…
Each Player should be coached in the way that suits his batting style!
In the case of Duda he needs his aggressiveness to succeed.
In the case of Ike Davis he could stand to use a little passiveness at this point because he is flailing at pitches early in the count.
Working a count is supposed to be about getting fat strikes!
If your getting them working the count is only wasting the ones you got because he doesn’t need to throw more than one fat strike per AB! After he has one strike on you all he is going to do is nibble or fool you after that!
If your going to work the pitcher to get a fat strike then you had better swing when you get them, and stop expecting your going to get one with two strikes on you!
If the passive approach has failed to produce a fat strike by the time you hit strike 2 then your never going to get that fat pitch so get aggressive and protect the plate until the pitcher screws up or walks you.
I don’t get your 1st point. And Keith has complained many times about Mets hitters taking too many strikes, so I don’t get your 2nd point either.
This reply was for Donal.
Ya, he has. Kind of funny when they win games, it is about the great plate discipline. When they lose, it is because they take too many pitches.
Nice examples you choose in Joe D and Ted Williams. Next time we talk about pitching my example will be Bob Gibson – you can ask me any question and I’ll answer with him.
Point is, they were legendary hitters who had exceptional eyes or as they like to say now “pitch recognition”. They were born with it.
And no i’m not saying I would not want to win on a walk off walk, so that’s just stupid. Walk off walks happened 30 years ago too, and I think 70? Right? So that’s nothing new.
You can’t force an entire organization to follow a philosophy, period. Nor should you. You work on each batter’s issues on an individual basis – you don’ tell everyone they have to do things the same way. I’ve been saying and I also heard the booth say that Lucas Duda has been taking way too many pitches and I think that may be contributing to his slow start. Let him be himself. Let him hit the way that’s already got him this far and if he strays then that’s what a hitting coach is for.
You don’t come in and tell everybody they have to change when some guys don’t need to be changed.
Not sure where you’re going with Bob Gibson? I choose Sandy Koufax!?!? Of course I picked legendary hitter because of the fact that they are LEGENDARY HITTERS! We are all still aspiring to be the absolute best we can, or has that been PCed out too? If I had picked Joe Charboneau and Ron Kittle, I wouldn’t be making a point, would I?
I do SOMEWHAT agree with your more clarified point of not being able to force everyone to follow a specific philosophy. That being said, I feel that they should all be on the same page and keyed into the same approach. Be selective without stripping them of aggression. It’s a hard feat but that’s what makes the special ones special. I totally agree with the point that some hitters (especially when they aren’t going well) will at time go up there not to make an out instead of trying to get a hit. Pitch recognition and plate discipline are a huge part of of the overall package and they have been stressed forever.
I completely get the fact that Joe D. and Ted Williams are probably the high water mark but I’m certain that while developing a hitter it is far more sound to follow their approach then it would be to follow say, Vlad Guerrero’s.
A post about Mejia, and Anty-Sandyonne starts off with this. Classic.
Hey Bayonne, did you see the pregame last night? Bobby O again was talking about the Mets approach at the plate having a negative effect on the hitters. He showed a number highlights from the previous nights game where the Mets took hittable pitches for strikes against Zack Grenikie. He also showed numbers that the Mets took the most pitches in the league, and the most pitches in the league for strikes.
Another interesting stat they mentioned in the broadcast was after Duda’s hit yesterday, that was the first time all year the Mets got a hit in a 3-0 count.
It’s no wonder why we were shutout against Grenike – He’s a guy who’s going to throw a lot strikes, and if you take them and fall behind in the count against him, your going to have to face his nasty slider.
A pitcher hates working counts? That is as shocking as finding out a vampire hates garlic.
Did you happen to watch the games for at least the last week and hear Ronnie and Keith praising the plate discipline?
Vinny not only all that but I also think this passive approach being preached throughout the organization is having an effect on power hitting too.
If these guys are trying so hard to get a better read of the count and you have to be tentative to do that then I think it’s effecting their aggressiveness and that’s why you are seeing less HRs.
They are tentative instead of just being themselves. Case in point is Lucas Duda and maybe even Ike Davis to an extent too. These guy were swinging the bat last year and driving the ball out of the park. Now the players are too busy trying to “work the pitcher” and go deep in counts that they’re getting less pitches in their zone to drive.
I think i may very good case for this new philosophy being responsible for the Mets lack of power – even though the fences were brought in
Still no concept of what Hudgens is actually teaching. What ever philosophy if the players fail at it then it doesn’t work. The philosophy is supposed to be hunt your purchase. How does that mean take a walk at all cost or take a 2-0 fastball?
Well TRS the hunt your purchase is fine but don’t confuse that with plate discipline they are two different beasts!
If a fastball down the pipe is not your purchase then you got bigger problems than what pitch to wait for don’t you think?