27
2012
Former Teammates Weigh In On Jose Reyes And Fan Reaction
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Jose Reyes sharing a moment with Jeff Wilpon. Photo by Clayton Collier.
Unless you were living under a rock or otherwise incapacitated, it was impossible not to hear about Jose Reyes’ return to Flushing with his last-place Miami Marlins. After an eventful offseason by the Marlins, headlined by the 6-year, $106 million deal that got Reyes in one of those God-awful Miami uniforms, the former Met came back to where it all began these past few days. It was a welcomed trip down memory lane for the 28-year old speedster, but not quite as well received by the fans, who overwhelmingly booed the 9-year Mets veteran during his three day visit.
Reyes went 1-for-12 during the series and he was possibly a bit anxious to face his old teammates and a crowd that once adored him again.
It was quite clear that Reyes was still his old self when I watched him before the game when the teams were practicing and doing warm-ups. I saw him joking around with his new teammates Emilio Bonafacio, Ozzie Guillen and several others just as he always did when he was with the Mets.
I decided that I would ask several Mets players what it was like to see Reyes on the other side of the field with the visiting team and to give me their two cents on Reyes in general:
“It was great. We all loved Jose when he was here, he’s a great guy and a great teammate and meant so much for the city, I was kind of surprised by the reaction of the fans after all he has done for the city of New York, but we all loved being able to play against him.” – Scott Hairston
“Jose’s great, we all love him, but he’s on the other team now and we want to beat him.” – Mike Nickeas
“Baseball is a game of competition, everytime you put on your uniform and cross those white lines it’s time to go to battle. Jose Reyes is a great person and a great player and you have to play your best to beat the best.” – Robert Carson
Mike Baxter, a New York native, gave his opinion of the crowd’s response to Reyes’ return:
“We didn’t know what to expect. They came out and let him know their feelings, and Jose is a great guy and a great teammate, I loved playing with him, but the fans have a right to do what they want to do. I love playing in New York, but if you do well the fans will cheer and if you screw up, they’re going to let you know.” – Mike Baxter
Reyes did not deserve the treatment he got from many of the fans this week. He was an exciting player to watch and one of the best offensive talents this franchise has ever developed. He loved playing in New York and was an exceptional shortstop who gave this team all he had ever since he was scouted and signed at 16. Not to mention the fact that it was impossible for Reyes to return to the Mets when they never even offered him a contract.
Anyway… It was nice to see his face back at Citi Field and you could tell his former Met teammates were happy to see him too. Reyes was well-loved and still is by all those he once played with, even if the same can’t be said about many of the fans he once played for. Best of luck to him in the future, he at least deserves out best wishes.
About the Author: Clayton Collier
Clayton, a Long Island native and die-hard Mets fan, started writing online about three years ago. He is currently a Journalism major with a minor in Broadcasting at Seton Hall University. Although very disappointed with the current state of the team, Clayton remains hopeful that the young prospects in the farm system will bring the Mets back to a respected franchise in baseball once again. Besides writing for MMO, Clayton is also a staff member at 89.5 WSOU, Seton Hall's modern active rock radio station. You can contact Clayton by following him on Twitter: @Clayton_Collier or E-mailing him at MaybeNextYearMets@yahoo.com
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they had the “homecoming”, now can their please be a moratorium on articles about Reyes? He’s gone, and not coming back.
And he got boo’d for being a member of the Marlins, a divisional rival that reveled in taunting the Mets in ’07 and’08. So there is no love for that team from the Met fan base.
He was on record as being all about the money, he got it where he wanted to really be, so wonderful for him, now I hope he continues to suck all year helping the Marlins stay sunk on the bottom. With the Phillies of course.
Oh, and technically the Mets did offer him a contract. ALl he had to do was accept arbitration!
Why must you lie to embellish your opinion which you have a right to? The only thing on record was that Reyes was never made an offer. It’s on record because it was reported by Alderson, Reyes, Greenberg and Ricco. You need to learn the definition of the term “on record” and verse yourself in it’s proper usage.
When was he “on record as being all about the money”?
I never heard him say anything like that. I did hear several rumors that Reyes would have taken the Mets if they presented him with a similar deal.
As far as all the rumors that were flying around, 90% of them are BS designed to sell papers. If you believe that story from a source that knows a friend of a guy who knows someone else who heard someone say something, then you got problems.
As far as the “being about the Money” Yes, every player in every sport is going after the biggest dollar he can get. There are no loyalties in pro sports any more. The Mets didn’t show him any loyalty, they didn’t even put up any efforts to keep Reyes.
I hate that Reyes is gone…I loved they guy from day 1. But Reyes is not here because Sandy decided that the Mets didn’t have the money to risk on Reyes. Sandy decided that he’d let the market set a price for Reyes…if nobody offer him a big contact, then I’m sure Sandy would have made an offer. The Marlins made a big offer…Reyes sat on it…Mets didn’t make a counter offer…the Marlins wanted to make a big splash and get fans excited so they could sell season tickets so they upped their offer to get the deal done right away….Jose had no other offers and Miami looks to be in “winning” mode…he took the deal.
I hate it, but in time, it might be the right decision. But I can’t blame Reyes for what happened, it was all in the timing. If Wright was up last year, he’d be gone too…would you boo Wright for leaving as well?
If the Mets signed Reyes to the exact same deal, and he started out with a .205 batting average in 18 games, everybody would be talking about how he was overpaid etc. They’d be comparing him to Bay, saying he wasn’t worth the $.
If Reyes plays like 2010 Reyes for the majority of his contract (which is what I think is most realistic) then whether you like it or not, Alderson was right in not committing a long term deal.
You have to wait and see, but the odds are in Alderson’s favor that Reyes will not perform well enough to be worth the deal he got.
Mention me one player that was signed for 5 or 6 years that actually lived up to that contract?? Bonds maybe in SF? but we all know he juiced up.. But really, who else? will you be signing same praises about tulo 10 years from now on that contract?? seriously shut the f*** up about sandy alderson, he’s not gonna sign anybody worth mentioning for years to come, that’s not his MO, but i’m sure with articles like “HE HAD A GOOD DAY” because he signed francisco, rauch and traded for ramirez it shows were your side is.. The reason why i say what i say about u it’s because your hate for guys like reyes, ramirez etc and your love for guys like tulo, wright, braun, sandy alderson.. See the trend..??
OK, so what you are saying is that Sandy was right, and made the correct decision, to not sign Jose to an overinflated contract that he has little chance of living up to?
Honestly, for all the noise about moneyball, Met finances, Madoof, etc. just maybe the FO made a rational BB decision to let the guy go when he got offered way more than they thought he was worth?
and related to that, Reyes walking does not have to mean jack doodle to what happens about Wright.
The FO is not unwilling to spend money, they just don’t seem to want to spend more than they feel a guy is worth. So if the equation is different with Wright then entirely possible he does get signed.
Alex, “Mention me one player that was signed for 5 or 6 years that actually lived up to that contract??”
Now you’re getting it! Nice job!
You are serosly STUPID… Mark teixeira signed an 8 year deal with the yankees.. SO far you can say he’s had 1 good season out of the 3 he’s been there.. He helped the yankees win a WS.. You think Yankees brass regret signing him???? Seriously, you’re moneyball mentality got you all gassed up, keep it up … That is why you celebrated the mets world series championship at 4 years old right??????
You know what he would have done if they offered him the same deal, he would have gotten an extra year out of Florida. What exactly do Mets fans OWE Jose Reyes. He got paid to play here and when he wasn’t hurt he played.
Nice job! I agree that the boos were overwhelming. At first it seemed playful and Jose was laughing about it while he walked up to the plate. Later on it just got ridiculous. The guy was a great player, fan favorite, and is still one of the all time great Mets. Next time he comes back to Citi we as the fans need to give him the respect he deserves. He hasn’t said anything derogatory about the organization or dogged out any part of the team. He just says they didn’t give him and offer and that he plays for another team now. He has thanked the organization for the the opportunity to play Major League Baseball. I personally still love Jose. Just like I still loved Darryl when he went to LA and I will always love Darryl! I hope we can give you a better homecoming next time Jose!
I think people are missing the big picture. It is about the TEAM, not one (ex) player.
Fans are there to support the Mets. And a time honored tradition is booing the players on the other team (in particular, the “stars”), with the hope of throwing them off their game, and giving the home team an edge.
well, Reyes was certainly the lightning rod on the Marlins this visit. And guess what? He had a terrible series, and the Mets swept. DId the booing play into that? Certainly seems so.
I just really don’t buy into the concept that the fans should have showered him with love, and made him feel comfortable and encouraged him to play well. If they had cheered wildly and relaxed him, and he broke out of his season long funk and helped the Marlins win 2-3 games, would anyone (other than the few Marlin/Reyes 1st fans flaoting around) been happier?
I think the boos just prove that people were and still are very unhappy with game 162. And likely very unhappy with his every attempt to throw Alderson under the bus with the “no offer.” Because anybody who understands how the business of baseball works, they would know a GM and an agent discuss parameters all the time, without “official offers” being made.
I’m glad he got the reception he got. He wanted to be a Miami Marlin in my view, and he made his choice so now the fans get to react. Enjoy Miami, you thought playing for the Wilpons was bad? Wait until Loria gets going in Miami again. Hope you are renting a house in Miami because the odds of you playing out your contract there are slim.
By the way, so far, the Mets were right. It’s still very early, but Reyes is playing like a guy who had his career year, got paid and is now in cruise control in the slow lane.
Bottom line, he is not a NY Met. He plays for a division rival, and a team that had a huge role in the 07 and 08 collapse.
Your hate for the guy is becoming some sort of obsession… Did carlos beltran wanted to be a met???? He was booooo’ed unmercifully every single time he went to houston.. You just defending your idol sandy alderson by attacking the guy.. It’s really becoming sad how you hate the guy, yet you root for tulowitzky, ryan braun amongst other players who arent met yet you hate this guy who was nothing but a good citizen for NY and a good player while he was here.. Seriously let it go..
I appreciate guys like Tulo. There’s a difference between rooting for a guy and appreciating his talent. I believe Tulo is the best SS in the game. That’s why you say I root for him.
If he was a Met and quit on his final game to win an individual achievement, I’d boo him too.
Sandy Alderson wasn’t playing that day, so it has nothing to do with him. You just want it to so you can drive an agenda to this thread.
The only one who quit on the Mets last year was Alderson. And only a moron would use a 20 game sample to prove a point that won’t be clear for years to come
Right, so it’s ok for you to use reyes for YOUR agenda but when i called you out for what it is you try to pin it on me right? you’re pathetic, a really sad human being with no sense for others.. Andy martino said it best about mets fans, and you’re part of that group that he mentions in an article he wrote…
I think it just proves that most Mets fans are morons. After all, these are the same fans that hate Wilpon for only doing what they consistently scream for. Fred is guilty in the first degree of letting the fanbase dictate the team’s direction. The fans are guilty of screaming to sign Beltran, Johan, K-Rod and Bay and then hating Wilpon for it after they proved to be massive failures.
Don’t forget the fans wanted A-Rod ManRam and Zito and at least 50% wanted Perez back the other half wanted Lowe.
Sadly, Omars and Wilpons biggest mistakes was to cave to fan pressure and didn’t due the due diligence on some of those deals.
One of the only things I like about Sandy so far is that he’s making the moves he fells are right and not to appease the fan base. I don’t like most of the moves, but he making the moves he want’s, not what we want.
I’d hate to be GM of the Mets, I’d probably do a very bad job. Not because I don’t think I’m smart enough to put a good team together, but I’d be making deals biased on emotion and loyalties and not what is the best overall move for the club.
Beltran and Santana weren’t massive failures. Yes, it was wrong and silly for the Wilpons to try and spend their way out of mistakes. But, you have plenty of other examples without those 2.
It can be hard to judge what a failure actually is.
Santana and Beltran aren’t “failures” but Santana will probably not live up to his contract.
Was Perdro a failure? what about Delgado? Alou? Dl’uque? Glavine? Frenchy? Church? Wagner? K-Rod?
All (expect Frenchy) played great when healthy, but they missed too much time over the length of their contract. Glavine pitched good, but he didn’t live up to expectations.
I think part of our (Mets Fans) problem is that we put way to high expectations on our players, especially those who come over as Free Agents.
Beltran played great and is one of the best players the Mets had and had his best seasons here…but he was never the A-Rod player that many expected him to be.
Santana has been great, but missed one full season. Is he really a failure?
I think the Pedro signing was successful for what it was: a statement. I think that if Minaya had done a better job bringing up young pitching talent, Pedro would have been great for them to learn from.
Frenchy, Church and Delgado were all trades. Delgado was a good trade, but he had back problems in Toronto. It should have been clear he wasn’t going to last the whole deal. There was no real follow up.
Church never really got a chance because of how they mishandled his injuries, especially his concussion. Wagner had the same issue. Frenchy was a role player.
Besides, with Wagner and Rodriguez, I don’t like the idea of 1 inning closers to begin with. To buy so high on them in my opinion is insane.
exactly right jessep. he left, he is on a rival, so he is the “enemy”. Root for the laundry, and all that.
doesn’t mean you hate the guy 9hard to do, not knowing him personally). But lumping him in with the rest of the Marlins (an easy to despise team?) Sure.
hell, if Wright leaves and goes to the phils, I hope/expect the fans to boo the snot out of him when he comes back. Try to mess with his head to give the Mets an edge.
This is starting to remind me of Survivor. It is a game, there is gamesmanship, it is not real life. So why are people getting all freaked out about rooting/booing, etc.? Just like on the show, some players get all upset that someone “lied” to them. Hell, that is the whole point of it!
I loved Reyes. When he was great, it was incredible. But there were many, many times that he did not give his all and sleepwalked through games. He proved that, in the third game by screwing up an easy soft liner
You know who doesnt take days or innings off…ever. David Wright. He’s a Met. Jose is not.
You know who doesnt take days or innings off…ever. David Wright. He’s a Met. Jose is not”
And peopel wonder why on a thread about reyes david wright comes up… When ASININE comments like this keep popping up what can one do…? The man doesn’t even run on ground balls, now he’s wolrd class..
For now he is a Met….. And not to rain on your love for Wright but he won’t be taking a single dollar less than he is worth to stay here. No matter how the jesseps and media of the world dress it up. Everybody asks for the most they can get it is the American way
C’mon lets not take the fun out of the game. He is now on the other team. He is the enemy! People boo the other team….Thats Baseball!
Thank goodness he didn’t get a hit his first time out. He might have taken himself out of the game, instead of going 1-12 for the series!
Lighten up people!
Some of the boos probably came from fans who believe Reyes had no intention of re-signing here unless it was the highest offer.
Some of the boos probably were the result of some fans not caring for the way he ‘played’ that last game 162.
Some of the boos probably were the result of the recent comment when asked if he missed playing in NY and his response was a definite ‘No’.
Fans are entitled to their opinion. I would not have booed if I were there for any of these games.
I can’t blame Jose for taking the Miami offer. However, I think he probably could have been a little less honest when asked if he missed playing in NY – even if he’s glad he’s out of here. Something along the lines of ‘I loved my playing time there, loved the fans – NY has some of the best fans in baseball and they’re passionate about their team’. Would have been a little more diplomatic. To say ‘No’ though implies he’s moved on and is happy about it. Some of those boos were probably just responding in kind.
I think a lot of the silly drama and the tribute video led to a lot of this. Too much was made out of it and when that happens, people will react.
Personally, had I been there, I would have applauded his first PA and then treat him like any other guppy after.
They didn’t need a tribute video. I think if they did something like play his walk up music for his first time up, that would have been fine.
Donal, honestly, i respct you even more… I don’t get the obsession from jessep with reyes… Like i said, it’s obvious when martino said this about mets fans: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/mets-fans-lost-patience-baseman-luis-castillo-hard-ignore-race-factor-article-1.121739
He was clearly including jesseP
No, Martino is a hack and hiding behind that accusation is lazy and cowardly. I don’t accept it when he tries it and I don’t accept it when you do it. If you can’t argue the facts, then maybe you should just stay out of it.
Although, the irony of Alex68 playing the race card with other contributors here shouldn’t be lost on ANYBODY…
Oh my goodness gracious, that was sucha stupid piece when it was written more than a year ago, and it remains as stupid and baseless now.
Mets fans hated Castillo because his average belied all of the little, awful things he did, and that little ol’ dropped pop up happened to lead to a Skanks victory–completely emblematic or symbolic of all that turd represented with his bloated contract. Castillo, whatever is in the man’s mind, also had tremendous difficulty in conveying to fans his passion for the game or for being a NY Met.
Tell me, what did Castillo go on to do after the Mets cut him? Yeah, I thought so. Please, please in this instance don’t dare to bring up race. That’s so sad and ignorant.
Russell, i did not like castillo, i did not want him sign and was against it from the get go… I think he sulked the whole time he was here, but after reading this piece it kinda made me wonder why mets fans never have accepted certain players from different backgrounds yet loved their all american heroes… I think it kinda made sense. Specially after seeing how a guy like jesseP drools over tulo (A player from another team), hates on reyes while being a met, now he’s on a hate vendetta against reyes it’s because he’s from another team… See my point there??
Yes your point is that you are simple minded and think everything has to do with race, without knowing anything about my own race or whether I have family of similar backgrounds as the players you mention.
Because I do not like Reyes now, that means to you, that I don’t like hispanic baseball players. Nevermind the fact you call me JesseP (capital P) because I was a fan of Oliver Perez early on, or nevermind the fact I wrote about how fans need to lay off Castillo, or nevermind the fact for 3 years I was one of the only people on this site defending Omar Minaya.
In every instance, you were the opposite side of the argument. Perez, Castillo, Minaya. Yet, nobody ever claimed you had something about hispanic players did they?
When you said this: “Please… from to luis castillo, oliver perez, minaya and manuel: booooooooooo!!!!” about four METS, all with hispanic backgrounds, did anybody assume you had an agenda against non white players? Seems like that group of people all have something in common don’t they?
Of course they didn’t say that because there is only 1 simple minded person here who jumps to race when they have a disagreement.
Again, it’s about jose reyes… You hate the guy… I can’t for the life of me figure out why… Call him choker etc, i don’t mind that, trs86 does it all the time, but he doesn’t hate reyes the way you do, you nitpick every little thing to take a shot at him.. Game 162? really? Yet you were hell and bent defending a steroid user like ryan braun and yet you want people to take you seriously or respect you?? i would’ve respected you had you shown up to the game i invited you to see each other face to face.. This animosity between me and you would’ve ended a long time.. I seriousl don’t like you and you don’t like me, we could’ve had a few beers face to face to end this but you chose to hide out..
Yeah, clearly race was a factor when it came to my views of Luis Castillo right?
http://metsmerizedonline.com/2009/11/quit-focusing-on-2b.html
http://metsmerizedonline.com/2010/04/time-to-give-luis-castillo-a-break.html
Guess when I wrote those two pro Castillo blogs, I forgot his race?
The BEST comment in the second blog comes from everybody’s favorite core member. Let me quote it
“Please… from to luis castillo, oliver perez, minaya and manuel: booooooooooo!!!!”
That, is just too perfect.
Hey, jesseP, i have been on record saying in here, i did not like Omar the GM but love omar the scouts… The reason why i didn’t like omar the GM was for resigning guys like perez, castillo on this team… Jason Bay has been far more disappointing than castillo ever was, yet there’s still people defending him and looking for excuses for his struggles at the plate..
and the whole thing was not about you hating castillo, but your hate for jose reyes when he was nothing but a good citizen and player when he was here… I don’t see you hating on pujols and he’s doing absolutely NOTHING as of yet… You sir imo are a pathetic human being..
“I don’t see you hating on pujols and he’s doing absolutely NOTHING as of yet”
AngelsMerizedOnline.com is not where I write or comment. Why would I write or hate on Albert Pujols? He has nothing to do with the Mets…
Why would I write or hate on Albert Pujols? He has nothing to do with the Mets…”
AND JOSE REYES DO????????????????????????????? See where your hatred for him comes out??? reyes has NOTHING to do with the mets, He’s a player from a division opponent, funny how if you say that he’s a rival player from a rival division team i will called you out on this, THEN WHY THE F*** YOU DROOL OVER HEYWARD, FREEMAN AND KIMBRELL??? Admit you hate the guy and there’s nothing to it, you’re seriously grinding my gears, you’re a pathetic human bering, a hypocrite, a liar, a man who has no integrity, and one of those andy martino points out in his article.
I don’t think we need to go back and forth anymore. I think the point is clear when you say “reyes has NOTHING to do with the mets”
We’ll remember that when you mention Reyes next time, that he has nothing to do with the Mets.
Right, he doesn’t… Can i be honest with you??? From the bottom of my heart? I have not watched one single game of the marlins, and YES, that includes watching the mets vs them… I have been busy and watched the higlites a little bit, but if it’s not for MMO putting the standings on the website i would’ve not known the marlins, or phillies or nationals or braves record.. I did not even know Stanton had 0 HR’S!!!!!!!
This has to be to me the stupidest most irresponsible article Martino has ever written. Martino basically shouted fire in a crowded theater.
He then goes on and says he was never asserting anything but just asking the question. Joe & Evan called him out on the WFAN.
http://nyc.podcast.play.it/media/d0/d0/d0/dX/d4/dW/d6/X4W6_3.MP3
Martino as far as I am concerned was an idiot to suggest the boos for Castillo may have to do with race and then say on WFAN he did not want to generalize the Mets fan. That is exactly what he did.
I guess we can expect anytime now an article by Martino wondering if the boos for Ike is because he is Jewish.
Martino definitely downgraded himself in my eyes that day.
The loudest boos I think I ever heard at Shea (in person) were for Glavine in his last game. And pretty sure he is as whitebread as they come!
At least we know Glavine wasn’t devastated by the boos just disappointed, maybe.
I loved Jose. He’s one of the best in baseball. He’s an electrifying player.
He made a decision to to play for a POS owner and a POS franchise (with no fan base whatsoever) after he met said POS at a restaurant in NY after Loria presented him with a Marlins jersey. After talking myriad times about how much he loved NY, the Mets, the fans…it all seemed a little insincere on his part. Yes, every player wants top $. Who would begrudge them this. My point is that Reyes set himself up for the fall he received at Citi. His own P.R. was bad, so he left lots of fans feeling that if he did exhaust all possibilities to remain a Met, he didn’t exactly go about hi free agency in the most diplomatic or suave of manners.
Whatever…now he plays for the hated Marlins. They are my enemy. I hope they continue to be a disaster and that Reyes fails while he plays for them. Nothing personal, Jose
I have no problem with Reyes taking the big payday in Miami. He had the hammer and he used it. Good business – period.
I have a problem with the way that he always behaved when he was here: immaturity, low baseball IQ, never owning up the his screw-ups, game 162, etc.
I also don’t blame Alderson for not committing long-term to a guy with frequent flyer miles on the Disabled List. The Mets already have a bazillionaire that’s never on the field.
I loved Jose. I wanted him to stay. When the Marlins deal was announced, that was probably one of my lowest, most disappointed moments as a Met fan. I’d probably wish him well if he wasn’t playing for a division rival (for a fake-ass franchise with horrible owners and “fans”), or if I wasn’t so sure that his next stop isn’t the Yankees. So, yeah…Jose is the enemy now. If I was at these games, I doubt I would have boo-ed him. But I took great satisfaction in watching him do nothing but fail. I’m sick of Mets leaving us only to come back and KILL us.
Talk to me when sandy signs anyone long term… Keep banking on wheeler and nimmo to save the franchise… SMH
So, it is all about the payroll? You don’t care as long as they play the same game that got us into this trouble? Are you that satisfied with Jason Bay?
Donal, there you go back to being an idiot…bust free agents happen to every team.. Just because we failed on jason bay that then means we no longer sing anyone to a long term contract? all farm players on the team anf that’s it? guess what happens when teams don’t sign free agents? they become the pirates and the Royals … Good luck trusting sandy alderson and his small market phylosophy..
Long term contracts are not a good thing. You even admit it yourself. No one is even expected to live up to the value of them. So, why should we been in such a rush to add them to our roster?
What if the Rays win the World series? Are you going to snort and say it doesn’t count because they didn’t spend a lot? What if a miracle happens and the Mets in fact make the World Series? Will you not be happy? Is there some award for the highest payroll that I am not aware of?
I don’t care if we go back to a $140+ million payroll if the money is spent wisely and we are in fact winning because of it. Because whether you live in a small market or a big market, winning is winning.
Donal, i have said they’re not, but just like OWNERS of teams, players need to look out for themselves, this is entertainmet for us fans donal, but to them it’s livelyhood, it’s how they go to work.. You think i would’ve had left my job 4 years ago if they did not match what another competitor were offering me??? it’s simply economics donal… If you make x amount of dollars, you’d always wanna make that +x amount of money, baseball players are the same thing
Which has nothing to do with what I said. Yes, the players should go after everything they can. Does that mean teams should just roll over and give it to them? If one guy in your industry does something stupid and counter productive, do you have to automatically repeat it?
He just signed Neise to a potential 6 year contract…
Was niese a free agent? is he a cliff lee type free agent???
“Talk to me when sandy signs anyone long term”
Niese got a potentially long term deal. You didn’t say Cliff Lee or another team’s free agent. Don’t move the goal posts now because you were more involve with typing something than saying something rational.
“Was niese a free agent?”
That’s what makes the move even better, because they didn’t have to lock him up into a contract. It demonstrates that the team as a business feels that it is becoming flexible again and can start making long term moves finally.
If you want to kill the FO on this point wait until after this off-season when they should have the ability to do something now.
jose was my favorite Met. I truly hurt when he left and I still felt it up unti lthis series. I am done with hime now. He’s a Marlin, he’s in our division. He deserved to get booed. it was obvious he wanted to be a Marlin and not a Met by how he handled their aggressive pursuit. he is now a Marlin, he’s never had the epic moment of a Pizaa, a Strawberry, a Mookie, a Hernandez, etc. He’s was constantly hurt and signed with the Marlins. Why would I cheer that?
So, I guess a year from now when David Wright is playing somewhere else and comes back to Citi Field, we will boo him also?
Not a good guess, rob, DW will be a Met for quite a while. Happy to put a wager on it, if you like?
hopefully he doesn’t, but yes, if he shows up wearing say a Philly uniform, or Braves, then they should boo the snot out of him and try to mess with his head.
on the flip side, if they say signed Chipper (I know, that can’t happen, but using him as an example) the Fans should give him a standing ovation and cheers, even after years of booing and taunting him (which of course, only seemed to encourage him, but that is another story).
By the way: Joe, I think that could be another caption contest photo.
All I will say about Reyes is this…
I loved him when he was a Met, but as soon as all the talk about him telling friends he was leaving in the middle of last season, my perception of him started to change. All the talk about him loving the Mets and NY was just that: TALK. Despite the fact that he said he wouldn’t negotiate during the season, his family BEGGED him to stay. They BEGGED him to talk to the Mets when they were ready to talk and before Reyes hurt himself for the umpteenth time, but Reyes balked. Reyes had his sights set on leaving for the sake of winning a championship. His intent all along was to make $100+ million during the offseason, and everyone here knew the Mets wouldn’t give him that. Many contending teams who had the $$$ and sought for a SS looked away & the Marlins were the only ones to step up. Someone tell me WHY was that? What really ticked me off about Reyes is after the fact (and this is probably a major reason why he was booed) he was asked if he missed NY and he said “Not a chance.” It would be beautiful if somewhere over the next 6 years, the Mets win a championship before the Marlins. I’m not gonna shed any tears for someone who gonna pull a LeBron and bullshit me in the end.
I will say this, just as the next person i was sad to see jose go.. I blamed sandy, some blame jose.. guess what, the season started, we moved on.. I know i did, y’all didn’t see me posting reyes comments in here or anything like that.. He’s gone, that’s it.. My focus is on the NY METS and the players it has.. I was hurt to see him go but its business.. Stuff happens, Now i am excited to see CAPT KIRK being a kid that i like to watch, and even though i haven’t tuned in to the fullest i see the kid doing good things for us and have me excited… We should all turned the page, when he was here reyes was a grweat citizen of NY, never got in trouble and played the game the right way, immature, etc yes, but he loved to play, specially for the fans of NY, enough articles about him and criticizing, It’s getting a little obsesive and downright pathetic how people keep taking shots at him for NO REASON … I don’t see alderson getting articles written about him every day about how SHI*** his offseason was, and how ramirez and francisco have a 5.34 ERA combined between the 2, and how his others price acq cedeno and torres are both on the DL..
I think someone hacked Alex68′s account because this is the complete opposite of what he really does, every day………
Oh wait……..that’s nothing new………..
I think there are 2 reasons why Reyes didn’t get the warm reception he was expecting. 1) He’s now playing for a division rival, a team that celebrated as if they won the 7th game of the WS because they knocked us out of the playoffs 2 straight years. 2) The way he walked off the field in the 1st inning after bunting his way on before people even got to their seats. had he taken the field and walked off the field for a defensive replacement to a standing ovation, people wouldn’t have had a problem with him leaving the game early to lock up the batting title. No one could blame him for taking not only the best deal on the table, but the only deal on the table. No one should blame the Mets for not wanting to commit 6 years to a guy who you have to hold your breath on every time he runs hard out of the battersbox. Now can we move on now?