If the Mets are to build a young core of players keeping Niese is a part of that equation, Parnell who looked awesome this weekend, is not as vital to the Mets future success right now as Niese. Therefore you can wait on him.

Also, Nierse’s peripheral numbers are good and have been improving as he gains more experience. In other words, he has been trending upwards.

Now, if Parnell shows us that his performance this weekend wasn’t a fluke and he has indeed put it together, I’m all for giving a 2 or 3 years deal with maybe a club option at the end.

The guarantee is light in that we would almost certainly be tendering Niese a contract in those years anyway and the reward in the extra year and the club option years is enormous. Rather than having to offer a 5 year guarantee from 29-33 for 100 M we’ve basically just extended him a year and reserved the right to do so for two more seasons at a great price. The entire risk is in ages 25-28 and while he still is shooting for the big deal, not after having received it.

Proactively working toward the future as well as addressing the present instead of just seeing whoever happens to be available every off season is the essence of a GM’s job.

Spending a little more now and saving quite a bit later is a very strong move going forward and provides a big shot in the arm for other younger players and prospects who’ve seen time and time again big name expensive players brought in on long term guaranteed deals most of whom haven’t produced at the levels that were expected.

For starters, Jon Niese was going to be a Met for the next 3 years unless they traded him. He’s a young lefty that has proven if healthy he’s a solid mid-rotation guy.

At some point, you have to put faith in your young core of guys. I expect the Mets will do the same thing with Davis and hopefully one day Duda as they approach arbitration.

All this deal does is say the front office believes in Niese AND they do not want to go to court to discuss what type of salary he should earn. They are controlling Niese for what should be his best years and giving themselves options at the back end.

Using market value when the pitchers value is lower is not a bad thing. They used the Derek Holland model, and if Niese hits his potential, he could make less $ than he’s possibly worth.

I love the idea of locking up your youth for the years they are most likely to perform and I think you should too.

OK, Mr 303 IQ (that will never get old), who are the sock puppets? Name the bogus accounts any of us post under.

No, you’re not going to.

“Truth is you three horseman think your the entire site but guess what your not!”

Based on… nothing. Just another strawman you construct to distract from how out of your league you are.

“You have been proved wrong more times than anyone can count”

Like when he said Beltran was signed on as a fill in? Oh wait he wasn’t the one said that…

” Exposed as a hypocrite for complaining about insults and being the leading insulter around here and it’s usually because your most focused on posting about posters than baseball!”

Not just was all of that a bunch of crap but you take the side of people who make threats, stalk people and insult family members.

“Probably smart because when you do make baseball posts you only wind up looking foolish!”

You claimed Beltran was signed as a temporary fill in. And that is just your most recent blatant foolishness Be quiet.

“Funny how when you donal and Jessup took a little Posting Vacation a month ago how CIVIL the site was while you were gone!”

Actually, I’ve been posting pretty regularly. But, hey, you’ve never let facts get in the way of a rant.

“We all can hope you take another one because the site it 10 times better without your buttwipes plying your little Schoolyard banter like 3rd graders fighting over who’se daddy is tougher than the other…”

Stay classy, Metsie.

Now, go ahead and post something ranting, take a buck shot approach to topics, end every sentence with an exclamation point for no reason, and make it long and ranting just so you can get the last word.

The reality as I see it is that we would have paid Niese half of that money year by year in arbitration anyway. Even as poorly as Pelfrey has pitched he’s made 9 M this year and last and would probably get 8 M if he was tendered next season so for the additional 12 M we got Niese for another season and the option of having him for 2 more. Wait a year and the price would be twice as much in buying out 2 FA years and reserving two more.

The only way to lose is if he got hurt and we would have preferred to non tender him so as far as gambles go the 12 M excess isn’t huge in the whole scheme of things. Ten years ago we paid Mo Vaughn 30 M and Roberto Alomar 16 M for two years. Five years ago we paid Moises Alou 15 M for 2 years and in 2010 we paid Jason Bay 66 M for 4 years.

This extra 12 M for one year and the right to keep Niese for 2 more (at 10 M and 10.5 M) seems like a huge bargain to me especially the way pitching is going through the roof right now.

I actually agree with Greg who doesn’t actually knock the deal only suggest it might have been to soon. I agree. I guess this is now the part where I get attacked and I stop commenting here for another 2-3 months.

This used to be a site for great debate. Amazin Avenue is the only place for that now.

You buyout arbitration based on market value. If Niese wins 20 games, he’d cost them more over the next 5 years. They used Derek Holland’s market value.

The big rush was making a wise move that several teams do to lock up young talent to secure the best years of their career are with your team.

That’s how Cleveland won 6 Divisions in 7 years, by keeping their young players together even with a miniscule payroll.

OK.

The deal is entirely dependent on the timing. With 2 years to go before FA it would cost 15 M more. One year to go 25-30 M more. The fact that its completely in line with Derrick Holland’s deal shows just how reasonable this is for both parties, not to mention what a lift it must give the younger guys and the prospects to see one of their own getting paid instead of replaced by someone making 3 times as much who’s already in decline.

Gives a subtle shot across the bow to Wright and Pelfrey too. Seems to have lit a spark under the first one and we’ll see tomorrow about the 2nd.

Ah well, nothing to complain about in the pen yet, Wright’s had a few big hits, Murphy hasn’t blown one yet, might as well complain about Alderson addressing the future.

For Pelfrey alone (making 5M per) that would add an extra Mil per for any deal Niese got if we waited.
Only those who are so injury adverse or hate long term deals can really question it for the length but the price is right and if you can knock it for anything it is that it did not go longer to encompass his entire PRIME. It’s going to end right around the same point in his career as reyes’ contract did.
But thats a minor thing to me as we can extend him before that!