He took Bay over Holiday merely because of the new dimensions at Citi and Bays propensity to pull the ball.

It was a very weak FA market that year. Bay was one of the top FAs which pretty much tells you everything you need to know about it!

Not unless this YEAR is the year they invented a time machine that takes you backwards!

so even if the 21 YO raking in AA isn’t ready to come up to fill your gaping hole, he could be the piece needed t trade to a team out of it that wants to get rid of a high-priced guy at the end of his deal.

the more prospects of note, the more trade options.

so if you say have a system full of top SP prospects, you can spare one to get 3 months of Beltran, instead of having to start some AAA retread.

Halladay is way over paid and while he’s performing better than I expected…his splits before St. Louis showed that he really benefited from playing in Denver. See that he can’t field. I still believe that Halladay would be just as bad as Bay if he came here.

Sadly, we needed a big bat and pitching. That was the one year that I really expected (and Wanted) Omar not to make a deal and go into a “rebuilding” stage.

You brought up the Phillies first, not me. You lied about what I said about them, then asked about what Gillick did in the 90′s. I don’t even know where that came from. You might not be aware of this, but Gillick wasn’t the Phillies GM in the 90′s. Then you said this:

“…GM and ruining the great work Gillick did in the early 2000′s to build that franchise.”
I asked you who Gillick got that fit what you thought Omar should have…

Are you really asking me that? Don’t you understand how that’s impossible? It’s another case of you asking an unanswerable question then running around like a lunatic when it can’t be answered.

Just trying to get you to show yourself some self respect and stand by your statements instead of running like you always do at the first sign of trouble!

I didn’t twist a damn thing YOU SAID Jay could have made Alou uneeded and when I confronted you that he would have to have no development time to do that you ran like a little schoolgirl!

“Jon Jay, Brennan Boesch and Mike Stanton were all on the board in 2006 and 2007, all could have been moved to LF in 2009, all could have avoided Cory Sullivan/Jeremy Reed/Gary Sheffield/Emil Brown and maybe even Moises Alou”

How much development time would Jay have had if he was taken and replaced Alou?
So there is LIAR #1

Here is LIAR #2
“You brought up Gillick, not me.”
Oh Really?
“…GM and ruining the great work Gillick did in the early 2000′s to build that franchise.”

I asked you who Gillick got that fit what you thought Omar should have…

and we all got CRICKETS and more misg mosh sybject changing as the response!

Sorry X but you been exposed as the one you accuse the others of doing!
The quotes speak for themselves!
I suggest you quit while you are behind!

But I agree that Bay was a bad signing on principle and that no one else in the league really wanted him and Omar (being under pressure to et something and not being able to get Halladay) went for the guy he shouldn’t have.

We needed pitching not a big bat and truth is we didn’t get that big bat.
No one is perfect and no one says Minaya never made a mistake, just not as many as some people would like there to be so Sandy’s mistakes look ok!

AAAAHHHCKKK RUN AWAY!

You said Jay would have been a replacement for ALOU!

Read it again and tell me why my statement of NO DEVELOPMENT time is absurd again?

The question remains you have yet to show Gillick (who you like) got anything that you blame Omar for not getting…

Tell us what it is coward!
And stop trying to make a liar out of me or try to make it like I changed the subject when we all see it was YOU who brought up BOTH Alou and Gillick!

Both subjects your are running from because as I said it took you down that road you didn’t want to go because this is where it would lead you!
trapped and desperate for an escape route with nothing left but to blame ME the the changes of subject YOU made!

If Bay was hitting 30HR and 100RBI like he was before coming here then 16mil per year at 5 years is a pretty fair price.

Beltran I thought was overpriced at the time. I thought everyone’s expectations of him were way to high.

Perez was over priced, but Omar was desperate. We needed a starter and Ollie was the best option at the time. There were signs that he was wasn’t going to live up to the deal before he signed because of his inconsistency, but to completely implode the way he did is almost unbelievable.

I know everyone likes to go nuts on the K-Rod deal and his option…but if you look at it, it was 12.5 per year for 4 years. Omar just built in a guarantee that he could save 14.5mil if K-Rod bombed out. That’s about the going market for a top line closer (which K-Rod was at the time). You can argue that Closers aren’t worth that much, but apparently they are because the really good ones get paid like that.

Can’t say Wright and reyes got overpaid bt then again they never really hit FA.
Beltran was worth every penny but he simply got hurt. He came back and in his first full season was every bit what we expected and paid for.

Santana is pretty much the same he is wiorth the money for the pither your getting. But he got hurt.

Castillo made 8 Mil per just two mil more than Francisco makes today! I don’t see how anyone can say we overpaid for him. In his time here he hit ..274 with a .366OBP thats pretty close to his career average!

Wagner was worth the money he got.
So was Delgado

So I don’t see where he really overpaid for anyone but Bay and Perez.

Like I can’t define clutch but can define it in a moment!
You never said the Phillies were good drafters just their GM was a good drafter!

you really are such a con artists dude! master of the misdirection!

Xtreeme – “all could have avoided Cory Sullivan/Jeremy Reed/Gary Sheffield/Emil Brown and maybe even Moises Alou”

He got drafted in 2006 you say 3 years but truth is it is 2 years at best!
Rmember he would have been taken in JUNE of 2006 that means 2007 and 2008 and we all know hoe you feel about rushing guys after only two years in the Minors…

You really need to know that your previous posts don’t disappear they remain and will be used against you!