Comments on: Did Terry Collins Say What I Think He Said? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html Wed, 19 Jun 2013 07:01:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: trs86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244489 trs86 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:33:27 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244489 Agreed, not only was it the 6th inning of the first start but one he had already thrown 102 pitches.

]]> By: Gary S. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244486 Gary S. Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:26:33 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244486 Hey Cortez, I have been a met fan for 45 years and I have watched this franchise win 2 World Series.That would make most of the managers losers.What team have you been watching?

]]> By: Fonzie13 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244478 Fonzie13 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:18:25 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244478 Alan there were some of us that did not like pulling Pelfrey in the shoutbox when it was going on. The end result had nothing to do with not liking the move.

]]> By: Fonzie13 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244477 Fonzie13 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:16:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244477 While Pelfrey certainly isn’t the most reliable starter he has completed games before in his career so that’s not true that no manager would’ve let him come out for the 9th. He was on his game Saturday as rare as that may be and could’ve easily pitched the 9th. Even on rare occasions a mediocre starter is on his game. Even Dave Mlicki, John Pacella, Charlie Puleo had their moments. You do not need to go to your pen for 162 games, it’s overmanaging. He even said it after the game if we scored one more run he would’ve let Pelf go back out. He was more concerned about getting Francisco a save than he was about stopping a 3 game slide.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244470 Metsie Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:04:52 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244470 I’m not judging Francisco just on this year….You do know he had a career before he got here right?
Did you see what he did then?

My guess would be NO!
Otherwise you would know what you saw in spring, what you saw this week is typical for Francisco!

]]> By: Cortez Conniption http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244465 Cortez Conniption Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:40:49 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244465 “Another loser in a long line of loser managers for this franchise”

It’s incredible what some folks here write.

]]> By: alan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244456 alan Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:48:40 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244456 hey guys…let’s not forget that we are talking about Mike Pelfrey!

In most cases I believe that your starter should get that opportunity to start he 9th inning but Mike has always been somewhat of a head case. Terry Collins needed to get his closer back on track and wanted Pelfrey to get a win. If it had been a lights out relief appearance, we wouldn’t be discussing this…

Too much fodder and let’s not make this website like a reality show designed to stir up CRAP

]]> By: Amazin http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244437 Amazin Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:34:47 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244437 You all are blasting the manager for not trusting Pelfrey? How fast you all forget that Pelfrey is one of most unreliable pitchers in the game. No manager in the game would have brought him out for the 9th. The criticism is unfounded and shows a total lack of knowledge of the players and the game. I guess based on 8 innings you all are declaring Mike Pelfrey to be an ace.

]]> By: srt http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244430 srt Mon, 23 Apr 2012 12:17:03 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244430 I heard Terry’s post game interview after that Pelfrey start. According to what I heard, it was more about getting Pelfrey out of there after 8 solid innings then it was about getting the closer in there.
He said something to the effect of he didn’t want him to start the 9th, put a couple of guys on then have to pull him for the closer. That bothers me more than the fact that he didn’t actually let him start the 9th, which I would have preferred.

Pelfrey is a big league pitcher now. Take off the white gloves. He should have started the 9th.

]]> By: trs86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244426 trs86 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:59:04 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244426 So to ensure the chance at a no hitter with 3 innings left he should leave in his young starter in his first outing who had already tossed 102 pitches? Like I care if they go to the bullpen and finish off the no hitter? What good is that no hitter going to do if Niese has to have shoulder surgery because of it? He would have needed around 153 pitches at that rate to get a no hitter.

]]> By: Metsfan45 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244425 Metsfan45 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:36:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244425 So getting off to a hot streak you are quick to remind everyone it’s clearly too early, and against bad teams, but yet the third week of the season its not too early to get on a bullpen.

Love the consistency!

Hope you’re holding your breath while waiting, save on the hot air that’s constantly coming out.

]]> By: Chris http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244422 Chris Mon, 23 Apr 2012 06:09:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244422 “We could have bullpenned by committee and gotten the same results and used the 6 mill for some decent back up players”

so, the same 14-game results?

unless you can tell the future. then forgive me.

]]> By: Gary S. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244418 Gary S. Mon, 23 Apr 2012 03:36:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244418 Yes ii am.Not a fan of Collins or Alderson since day one..Nothing that happened this year has changed my mind

]]> By: Stick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244417 Stick Mon, 23 Apr 2012 03:25:21 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244417 yup. It all comes down to perception. The closer version of the “clutch batter”. doesn’t matter how much he does along the way, if there are a couple of very visible failures, that is all people count.

]]> By: tlagee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244414 tlagee Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:40:07 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244414 Stick -

During a three year period, Benitez had the most saves in the Majors (yes more than Rivera), the highest successful save opportunities and an incredible BAA.

Yes, most fans disliked him after walking O’Neil in the world series but that game was lost innings later by Turk Wendell.

In 2002, Benitez saved 33 out of 37 games with a 1 – 0 record and 2.27 ERA for a crappy team – and on opening day for the 2003 season he was the only player BOOED on opening day.

The fans ran him out of town on a rail – he couldn’t compete as a Met anymore (imagine tens of thousands of people booing you while you were trying to do your job).

Of course, He went to the Marlins the very next year and saved a career high 47 games with a 1.29 ERA. If memory serves me 11 of those saves came against the Mets where he had a perfect record.

So the disparaging of Benitez continues to this day. Very interesting.

]]> By: Chris http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244413 Chris Mon, 23 Apr 2012 02:24:14 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244413 are you really saying all this 14 games in, with 148 to play?

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244407 Metsie Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:26:06 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244407 I will simply sit here and wait for tagee’s Apology for getting on me about getting on our Bullpen!

]]> By: gary s. http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244406 gary s. Mon, 23 Apr 2012 00:13:44 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244406 Collins is on a 2 year deal..Let’s hope he’s not extended.I’ve seen enough of him on the bench and still rememeber him crying after the last game of the year at the press conference because his team played so hard for him and managed to win a grand total of 77 wins.Another loser in a long line of loser managers for this franchise.In his defense, bringing in Francisco for 2 years at 6 mill a year was the work of the genius Alderson.Toatal waste of money for a team with no depth..We could have bullpenned by committee and gotten the same results and used the 6 mill for some decent back up players

]]> By: Metfan Lou http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244404 Metfan Lou Sun, 22 Apr 2012 22:29:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244404 The story of my life. I always miss the good parts.

]]> By: Stick http://metsmerizedonline.com/2012/04/did-terry-collins-say-what-i-think-he-said.html#comment-244401 Stick Sun, 22 Apr 2012 21:49:45 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=78290#comment-244401 If Francisco could put up a season close to what benetiz did for the Mets, it would put the team in great shape.

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