Comments on: Mets Would Like To Trade Pelfrey

By: Des

Des — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:42:21 +0000

USMF — “Pelf isn’t an innings eater ”

What’s your definition of an innings eater? A guy who throw 245 innings a season or more? I think you’re setting the bar awfully high.

By: Des

Des — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:36:37 +0000

tag — The arm and shoulder are often fragile. He seems to have lost some command after his first season. The Mets brought him up with less than 100 innings pitched in the minors. The first year he wore four different Mets organization uniforms. Maybe it’s as simple as desperate GM’s do desperate things — dumb to say the least.

By: Deebo

Deebo — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 04:36:15 +0000

I’ve got a good reply for that tagline, ala Austin Powers: Well, I’d like a golden toilet bowl but It’s just not in the cards, is it? Too little, too late.

By: Joey D.

Joey D. — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 02:18:13 +0000

An even bigger mystery was what ever happened to Steve Blass some forty years ago. Though there is no definitive explanation why he went from a near Cy Young winner to being washed out just two years later (one theory was being unable to handle the loss of his very close friend Roberto Clemente in that plane crash)

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Steve_Blass

By: t agee

t agee — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:40:37 +0000

Well his 4 starts in St. Lucie were fantastic. His 12 starts in AA kept the same strikeout rate but his walks quadrupled. He then got two starts in Norfolk where his walks went way up again while his K’s when down by a 1/3rd but that’s only 2 starts.

Naturally he was brought right up after just 16 minor league starts even with seriously deteriorating results especially in AAA. He’s never had significantly better stats for an extended period than he did at Norfolk. It’s hard to believe that he could have just lost it after on 14 games as a pro.

Peterson would have worked with him in ST and when Pelfrey came up in July but it would seem more like Pelfrey wasn’t pitching to contact in AA and that was only more pronounced in AAA. His hits against stayed fairly similar through out his first season in the minors except in AAA where they actually improved quite a bit (again just 2 starts) so it wouldn’t seem that he became afraid to pitch to contact.

Really is just a mystery how he could have settled in at such a low level after such a great College career and a decent start in the minors, at least through AA.

By: Met Maniac

Met Maniac — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:12:01 +0000

Pelfrey’s velocity declined in minors before he got promoted. His k/9 rates also took a hit. I blame Peterson. He took away his curve, told him to pitch to contact, made him less effective.

By: t agee

t agee — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:04:53 +0000

This is why I don’t find it impossible to believe that Pelfrey could still have a good career. He’s never been injured and there is no question that his first half season as a pro he dominated, then was brought to the Majors and has never come close to dominating since, even back in the minors.

Very strange to lose it just like that for no apparent reason other than poor development. Rarely if ever does he even throw his curve which was a strong pitch for him at Wichita State.

Hope they take their time with Harvey.

By: jerseymet

jerseymet — Mon, 26 Mar 2012 00:25:45 +0000

A few years ago Kevin Burkhardt did a great interview with Pelf’s old college coach Gene Stephenson. The old coach was disgusted with the way his prodigy was pitching. He wanted Pelf to go back to his curve and attack the hitters with his fastball. It was a great interview. I hope SNY will air it again.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:17:30 +0000

Ha! If you changed ticker tape for text message you have yourself the makings of a AT&T 4G commercial.

By: Russell Zanca

Russell Zanca — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 16:12:55 +0000

Have you heard the news? This just in…coming across the ticker tape:

Mike Pelfrey Still Sucks!

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:03:16 +0000

Maybe his problem IS to many innings. Less innings= less run giving up.

By: Stick

Stick — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 02:50:30 +0000

these days around here, always safest to assume the dumbest out of posters. Nothing personal!

By: Matt

Matt — Sun, 25 Mar 2012 00:43:42 +0000

It was a joke…I’ll try to dumb it down next time.

By: Metfan Lou

Metfan Lou — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:07:33 +0000

The Braves are stocked with pitching in Jurgens, Hudson, Medlen, Hanson, Minor,Beachy, and two kids Tejan and one other guy that is ready. Heck the’ve got two bonafide closers in Venters and Kimbrel. What they have in pitching they lack in power and this is why I think within a week Jurgens goes and a hitter comes in, an outfielder with pop.

By: USMF

USMF — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:21:08 +0000

Listen, they are not dumping Pelf anytime soon no matter how much we want it to happen…the sad fact is, Pelf isn’t an innings eater (a guy who has only barley reached 200 innings twice in his career topping out at 204 is not a innings eater), Pelfs a guy who can go out and make 30+ starts a year. With the questionable health of Johan and Neise and knowing that Gee has never made it through a full season and the is no one ready to fill in, we need a guy like Pelf.

Yes Pelf sucks, I hate that we still have him, I hate that Sandy did nothing to improve the rotation.

We can take turns pointing the blame on Fred or Alderson or Warthen all we want, but unless someone gets released before the start of the season, what choice do we have? Sadly, the idea of another teams reject sounds like a upgrade from our “last years Ace”.

By: Even Flow

Even Flow — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:13:32 +0000

While I really like Jurrjens, I wonder why the Braves, an organization who knows something about pitching (although they gave up on their hometown kid who became a star elsewhere in Adam Wainwright), would give away Jurrjens on the verge of hitting his prime. Since Chipper’s retiring at the end of the season, and Wright is gonna be a goner for the most part after the season (add to the fact that he’s a southern kid), you’d think the Braves would be keeping a close eye on Wright before the deadline. Just throwing that out there.

By: any

any — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:07:38 +0000

I think the fantasy is the Braves wanting any part of Bay!

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:55:33 +0000

Okay, thanks. Someone posted a link the other day saying clubs have until the 16th day before opening day. Maybe it was on older link and I didn’t bother to check. In any event at least thy have that option and I hope the go that route. I can’t stand watching him meltdown, even in the spring it’s driving me nuts

By: Metfan Lou

Metfan Lou — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:54:24 +0000

I like what you said and I might add that the Mets wouldn’t be in this mess because they could of had a journeyman pitcher in Jason Marquis, a NY boy who wanted to pitch in New York and probably would have taken a contract for 2 mil. He signed with the Twins for 3 mil, still pretty cheap for a quality starter.And here is something else. Chipper is undergoing knee surgery again and the Braves will need their outfielder Prado to 3rd so they have an abundance of pitching and want to move Jurgens and possibly one other guy for an outfielder. I wish we would eat Bay’s salary and move him for one of these pitchers. but I am in fantasy land now.

By: trs86

trs86 — Sat, 24 Mar 2012 20:49:25 +0000

It may be the 29th I have read a few other players having that as the date.