Comments on: Wright Ranked #4 Among All MLB Third Basemen

By: Donal

Donal — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:03:24 +0000

Fair enough, it just reads like you were blaming them.

I can see what you are saying trying to get max returns for them, but I think those three could have led a better built team to a championship.

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:42:21 +0000

Donal,

I think that even if Beltran was sound for the 3 years, he would have been traded anyway. Wilpons could not afford him. Even if team had a good record, that would have been the case with all their financial stuff going on. The GM (no matter who it was) would have to break down team.

By: nym

nym — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:26:06 +0000

Yeah it was named after him. Not created by him. Big difference.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:55:54 +0000

truth is Fonzie he didn’t have a partner that would let him steal one!
As much as Halladay wanted to go one place or the other if we had made the move and traded one or two of the holy of holies that Omar kept untouchable he could have gotten it done.

As for 2010 My statement was way more in regards to 2007 and 2008, 2010 would have been better if he had halladay and it would still be enough to stop the attendance retreat.
But no moreso than if they had made the playoffs those last two years in 07 and 08 which I am sure would have changed Halladay’s preference on where to go since we would have been the division winners not the phillies those years!

Those two years were lost opportunities that started the fall and 2009 just put the nails in the Attendance and free Agent desirability coffin!

By: t agee

t agee — Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:23:23 +0000

“Guy’s not hitting when they should have.”

Give us a break. 33 blown saves it’s more like guys not getting an out when their supposed to.

After all it takes more than one hit to score most runs and even the best hitters, in their best seasons can’t be expected to get a hits every game in the 9th inning.

We lost 20 games in 2008 by 5 or more runs and gave up 5 or more runs 67 times. Double figures 10 times.

How many times that year did the offense seemingly win the game for a second time only to have the bullpen blow it for the 3rd time. Just look at the ERA’s on that team, that will tell you all you need to know.

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:33:01 +0000

I didn say it was their fault. I said I wanted to go in a different direction.Tear it down and rebuild.I’ve said that numerous times here. I never put the blame on one or two players shoulders.It was a total team effort.I know others blame one or the other. I bring their names up because they could’ve netted us the best return in terms of trade value.After those two collapses,I was convinced in my own mind that they lacked heart and leadership along with certain areas of the team to ever win again as a group.

By: Baseball101

Baseball101 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:24:26 +0000

You could not be more wrong.

By: Baseball101

Baseball101 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:22:19 +0000

Why the hell would anyone on a Mets site defend a punk like Ramirez who plays on another team over someone on the team they claim to be fans of?

Wright had a fractured back, but that’s an excuse, but give a pass to a guy on another team? Wait are you really just a Marlins fan trolling a Mets site?

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:20:32 +0000

What i’m saying is that no matter how much the bullpen blew during those collapses the Mets always had their chances to win games with big hits. Their collective last acts respectively were guys not hitting when they should have. That’s what did them in and most of that goes to Wright AND Reyes.

By: Baseball101

Baseball101 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:18:29 +0000

Are you the one that claims you know more than the most because you played and coached the game? You can’t be serious with that comment?

It doesn’t matter what the bullpen does? So blowing games at a record rate is ok with you because some didn’t get key hits everytime they were at the plate?

WOW, it doesn’t matter what the bullpen does…….now I’ve read it all.

By: S.FloridaMetsFan

S.FloridaMetsFan — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:16:45 +0000

What impact player did the Braves sign? What did the Philles do other than wreck their farm system by giving up a 1st round pick to sign Paps? Those two teams havent done anything.
The Braves are relying on their sysyem to fill holes while The Philles justy screw themselves more and more. Once those bloated contracts really start to strangle the Phillies people will really see that 3-4 years of success will be followed by long term failure. the Phillies are screwed with Howard, Utley, Halladay, and Lee. They are old and Howard and Utley are declining fast, with the other two soon to follow. Theres talk about them losing Hamels due to the bloated contracts. They have NO farm anymore and they arent the Yankees so they cant print money… We are in a good position to take the NL East back in a few years with the kids developing and a few more good drafts like we had last year.

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:12:38 +0000

Omar did try to get another top flight starter.He just didn’t have a trade partner that matched up with us. Halladay was never a free agent.He was traded to Philly and wanted to go there because their ST facility is near his home.He didn’t want to come here.

By: S.FloridaMetsFan

S.FloridaMetsFan — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:09:20 +0000

Those terrible signings is what got the Mets in this situation in the first place…

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:01:20 +0000

I disagree. It is not fair to say “well, we couldn’t get over the hump with players x,y and z so let’s dump them”. We wouldn’t even be at the hump without Wright, Reyes, and Beltran. They were the most productive “big 3″ of that stretch. It isn’t their fault the team wasn’t properly put together to take full advantage of their productions.

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:57:19 +0000

I kind of agree with Bayonne here. At least as far as Wright goes. I have to be consistent though. I wanted Wright and Reyes both gone. Anyone that was on the 2007-2008 team I wanted out of here but that’s just me. I can understand the sentiment about wanting to keep them because we’ve had so few homegrown players ever amount to anything special. But after what happened here those 2 years,I was convinced that group would never get over the hump.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:55:53 +0000

What does Ruiz have to do with the draft?

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:55:37 +0000

And not to mention that he uses that information to come up with all kinds of pathological Second Guesses years later. THAT’S THE DIFFERENCE.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:54:38 +0000

he does a lot of reading about the drafts yes. But his assessment of things is so prejudiced, pathological, false, prejudiced and borderline insane that it undoes all of that.

Yeah, Ruiz was the reason for the 07 & 08 collapses and you’re gonna buy into that? There is something definitely wrong w/the guy.

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:51:36 +0000

Spot on Agee! You really should write an article when the draft approaches in June. You follow the draft alot deeper than most people. Even more so than I do.

By: any

any — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:44:30 +0000

I remmeber game after game in ’07 especially where I would be in/out of the car, and leave with a good sized lead, and come back in a bit to find the pitching gave it back and more, then lather rinse repeat.

Teams can’t score every inning, and when the offense is putting up 6-8 on a daily basis I can’t fault them for not getting another 2-3 in the bottom of the 9th every night!