Comments on: The Mets Have $7.2 Million to Spend on the Draft

By: tinski

tinski — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:44:05 +0000

This is gonna be the end of two sport athletes playing baseball. Archie Bradley this past year was a two sport athlete and now that he cant get a massive signing bonus he probably would have went to OU to play football and baseball. Zach Lee (dodgers) and Tate (padres) from the past couple of years are examples of these types of players. Suppose these players go to college and star at a powerhouse football program, they might change their minds about playing baseball over football and go to the NFL over the MLB. The MLB should be worried about the reduction of the talent pool that will be in the MLB.

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:16:48 +0000

We’ll probably see a little bit of both. Granted, my idea relies a little more on luck\inside info. Yours will definitely be the safer and more conventional route for teams that actually want to spend on drafting.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:07:09 +0000

We’ll see how it all plays out, but I’d rather spend an extra half a mil on signing the first round pick than draft a player with a lower ceiling just so I have a little cash left for my 10th round pick.

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:03:14 +0000

But you are capped now. Spending big early takes money away from the next few rounds.

You know someone is going to try something crazy or weird for no other reason than doing the exact same thing as the other 29 teams is just dumb.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:53:18 +0000

That’s the thing. I wouldn’t let the signability issues scare me off. Maybe that would be worrisome in years past, but not under the new CBA. Don’t let that kid fall. Spend early and buy him out of his commitment.

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:52:08 +0000

Because Joe meant it as a joke and doesn’t have a history of attacking people?

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:50:33 +0000

I make a distinction between small market teams and small market owners. The Marlins up until recently had no money to spend because Loria wanted to pocket all that revenue sharing. Fortunately for them, they had top notch scouting and player development departments.

The owner was a cheap jerk, but the team worked really hard within the parameters they had no say in.

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:47:21 +0000

That is one way. That would seem the safer bet.

Or, you can do what the Phillies have done and spend big money later on to get the toolsy high school players who have signability issues and drop.

By: Met Maniac

Met Maniac — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 04:41:43 +0000

If me, Metsie, Alex or Bayonne had written that it would have led to full scale war on this post. You know that don’t you? You should look into why that is.

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:37:07 +0000

You may be right. This draft isn’t nearly as deep as last years.

By: t agee

t agee — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:24:00 +0000

Most high school kids will be going to college now to get a bigger bonus later. The less confident one’s may take what they can get and some who aren’t interested in school will too but their will be many picks wasted on HS kids and soon afterwards they’ll be fewer and fewer taken every year.

Bet the Braves are pissed.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:11:47 +0000

I would try to spend big early. Guys in the 5th round and beyond are always surprises. No one is certain their 7th round pick will be an All Star. Go get the guys with the highest ceiling and play the lottery later.

By: Trade Wright for Nolan Arenado

Trade Wright for Nolan Arenado — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:47:42 +0000

Nah…they would probably just add some more Jackie Robinson or Sandy Koufax memorabilia at Citifield.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:39:05 +0000

i do not have a charitable view of the small market teams. They milked, and continue to, the system for all its worth and do not invest their $$$’s in the game, other than line up on ‘hog day’ (draft day) every year and pick the best prospects in the game, hoping they get lucky.

By: Donal

Donal — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:26:28 +0000

It’s not really rigging the game if you aren’t winning. Also, they spent so much in the draft because they couldn’t (or wouldn’t) keep up on free agents. They weren’t purposely failing. They just made the best of a bad situation.

By: Fonzie13

Fonzie13 — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:50:19 +0000

After years and years of the Mets spending the 2nd fewest amount of money on the draft,they finally change their philosophy,thanks to Sandy and now they can’t go overslot without massive ramifications. The Mets just can’t catch a break.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:43:36 +0000

All I could find Pete is that according to B.A. they note:

“If a team fails to sign a player in the first 10 rounds, its draft cap is reduced by the assigned value of his pick. It can’t reallocate that value to sign other players. However, it can reallocate the difference between a player’s bonus and the value of his choice.”

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/2011/11/more-draft-details-from-the-cba/

By: t agee

t agee — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:22:23 +0000

Typical Mets. Right after the steroid era ended in 2004 we started recruiting outside Sr, Citizens facilities while everyone else was laughing and snickering at “slot selection guidelines.”

Now that we’ve finally made a committment to going over slot, we longer can after just one year and even at that we would have to raise our spending just to max out our draft “pool.”

In addition the smallest market and smallest revenue teams will compete in a weighted lottery for 6 additional end of first round selections and another 6 end of 2nd round selections so we’re pushed back 12 spots from the 3rd round on.

International spending is also going to be capped.

What should be capped is all those expensive overslot selections teams like the Pirates (48 M the last 4 years) NYY’s, Red Sox, Rangers, Nationals and Royals have picked up over the last 5 years whenever/if ever they play us. Tell them those guys can only play 6 innings against us since we were the only one’s actually adhering to those ridiculous “guidelines.”

Just where now can a big market team actually get a competitive advantage from it’s revenue? Just one place and losing a draft pick just means you have more to spread around.

Oh great. The hill just got steeper.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:20:18 +0000

Now thats a great Q! i hope any under-age is forfeited, but don’t know.

By: Bob L

Bob L — Mon, 20 Feb 2012 20:18:46 +0000

Good points, Donal. It just peeves me that year after year, the Pirates, Royals, Nats (for a long while), Oakland, Tampa, Padres, rigged the game that way, stinking it up every year, not ‘playing the game’ and getting the top draft picks, spending it seemed 90% of their baseball budget on the draft.
Now, that we have more early picks than we’ve had in a long time, it’s too bad the system changed. That’s all.
Oh i mis-read the penalty schedule…i think it kicks in right after the limit with a 75% ‘tax’. Seems like teams could still exceed the limits at not too high a cost…up to 200 – 300K over the limit, etc., and pay a 150 – 200K tax on that ‘crime’ without forfeiting any future draft picks.