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2012
Nationals Sign Edwin Jackson
An article by Hojo's Mojo
The Nationals have agreed to a one-year deal with free agent starting pitcher Edwin Jackson. The right-hander flew to Washington today for his physical after which the deal should be officially announced by the team.
Jon Heyman reports that deal is believed to be worth $8 million to $12 million dollars.
Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports first reported that the Nationals were targeting Jackson for a one-year deal and also says the Nationals are “aggressively shopping” left-hander John Lannan in order to free up some salary and make room for Jackson.
Jackson, 28, had received multiple three-year offers, sources say, but if he accepted a one-year deal, he could go back on the market next offseason.
Last season, Jackson went 12-9 with the Tigers and Cardinals with a 3.79 ERA in 32 starts.
Great move by the Nats who bolster an already formidable rotation…
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| Team | W | L | Pct. | GB |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Braves | 42 | 30 | .583 | - |
| Phillies | 35 | 37 | .486 | 7.0 |
| Nationals | 34 | 36 | .486 | 7.0 |
| Mets | 27 | 40 | .403 | 12.5 |
| Marlins | 22 | 48 | .314 | 19.0 |
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What is with the market for pitchers? There doesn’t seem to be any rhyme or reason to it.
What do you mean?
I figured since it was kind of shallow, guys like Qualls would be able to clear $5 million easy. And Jackson should have been able to lock down that 3 year deal he wanted.
Apparently he had several three-year offers. He came out of October wanting five. That was the issue. He wouldn’t get a five year deal in three years, but he can get one next year.
I think he had offers for three years, but was confident he’d be able to beat it with a good season this year. Next year’s crop could include Cain and Hamels, and a few others, but his bet is that teams that didn’t spend this year will be able to spend next year (Dodgers, Yankees, Mets, etc.). It’s a risk, but a one year deal worth 8-12, is better than a three years deal worth like $20M (which I’m guessing is what people were offering, or close).
What stings about this is that the Nationals just keep getting better.
Wow.. just wow. The nationals, Marlins, Phillies upgraded… the braves choked but can win 80 games this year… meanwhile, the road to the basement just got easier for the sandy alderson led new york mets…
In the spirit of the 1962 Mets, the 2012 version will try to emulate them as best they can with a last place finish and a 100 loss season dedicated to their memory. The only thing is this crop won’t be lovable like their predecessors were. Instead of Marvelous Marv, we now have Spectacular Sandy providing all the comic relief. Maybe we can get him to run the team backwards? Oh never mind, I just realized he is doing that already.
My sentiments completely. We can relive Jimmy Piersall’s stunt of running the bases backwards. Great tribute to Mets heritage by competing with the 1962 team to ecel in pilling up L’s. If we try really hard we may be able to garner 101 L’s a half century after our inaugural season.
We’re already solidly predicted to come in last this season, before this signing.
These are the type of signings that can strengthen a SP rotation – that is if ownership has any spare change lying around, which ours does not.
Many of us have realistically lowered expectations going into this season. It’s going to be one of just watching and seeing how the kids are coming along. But reading across these blogs, the fan base is getting angrier by the day.
The NL East is shaping up to be one of the toughest divisions. Of all times for the Wilpons checkbook to be overdrawn…..
of course this has nothing to do with Sandy’s decision-making skills. He’s innocent. Never mind that day by day the moves of other team’s have proved that the Mets could have afforded to compete if we had a smart GM.
Nothing is of Sandy’s doing. Nothing.
Blame the Wilpons, not Sandy.
*YAWN*
Sandy Save’s my friend, that is all you have to say. Everyone know what you mean you re-type it every day.
Sandy Save’s the Team
Sandy Save’s the Wilpon’s
Sandy Save’s the World
Sandy Save’s me money on my car insurance.
So, you are advocating the Mets sign Jackson to >$12 million?
Funny how you made no mention of him prior to this.
Never a fact to support an opinion.
Never a first guess.
Just chronic constant complaining about every single move made or not made by every single team in MLB all the fault of one and one person only and anyone else that doesn’t share that same opinion.
Time to empty the recycle bin……..again
yep, i never give facts to support an opinion and I never have ever given a first guess.
Obviously blatant LIES by t agee – again – in front of the entire MMO community. Never mind that i have offered many trade proposals and have been attacked for doing so. But that’s neither here nor there.
t agee says I never give a first guess. That is obviously a lie by a person who I’ve said before is completely nuts. The guy rambles on incoherently in his post, is MMO’s most infamous second guesser, monday morning quarterback, & front runner of all time. And last night he went completely Twilight Zone on Vinny and me. He just ran around all over the place and i was completely lost.
The guy is a second guessing, backtracking, lying, pariah. t agee is just nuts.
Maybe this is a miracle in disguise.
Well, marginally better career wise than Pelf, so he got paid about 20% more. Sounds fair!
Career wise the numbers are close,Jackson has been more consistent the last 3 years outside of 2/3 a year in Arizona.
A tree fell in the forest.
No one was around to hear it.
The entire world split into 2 sides, saying it either made a sound or didn’t make a sound.
…And somehow, both sides blamed Sandy.
He either:
A. was not being able to stop the tree from falling
B. was not being able to say for certainty that there was a noise to hear had someone been present
C.for taking jobs away from loggers who should have been present to cut the tree down.
Stay strong, Sandy, and beware the loggers!
Sandy Saves.
Omar Shoots!
Kick save and a beaut!
All I heard all offseason was how Jackson wanted 5 years 12-15 million per. The Yankees were willing to go 1 year with Jackson and Boras told Cashman that he had multiple multi year offers on the table. So why pass up an almost lock to go to the postseason to play for Washington who’s not a lock by any stretch.
Boras does a great job for the superstars but he screws his middle tier clients with his bullshit.
but was the yankee offer before they added the other SPs they picked up?
If so, the likely answer is he was holding out for more money, and by the time the idea of a LT big $ deal was out, his options were limited (as in, the Yanks were no longer interested).
Yes it was.When Boras gave Cashman the parameters,he then went and made the trade for Pineda and signes Kuroda. Gammons reported that Cashman was not willing to go more than 1 year with Banuelos and Bentances on the horizon and also keeping the Yanks under the luxury tax threshold in the next year or two where the penalties are steep.
signed Kuroda that should say.
Great signing, it’s amazing what other front offices with good GM’s can do. It’s a shame how this front office of so called geniuses has continue to hurt this team. Of course everyone will make more excuses for Sandy. Great job by the Nats strengthening their rotation.
Edwin Jackson, for 10mill a year? Great is certainly a stretch.
his last 2 years he put up a 1.4whip/4.47 ERA (95era+) in 2010, and a 1.44/3.79/106 in 2011.
Big Pelf in 2010 FWIW put up a 1.37/3.66/107 WHIP year. Or, almost exactly what Jackson did in 2011 (even slightly better).
Even in 2011, pelf put up a 4.74 ERA and a 1.47 WHIP. Again, damn near spot on Jackson in 2010.
So, other than reversing the 2 years, they are the same damned pitcher.
yet Jackson at 10mill is a great signing, and Pelf is a piece of trash wildly overpaid at 6mill (+/-) that should have been released?
Good analysis, Any.
So the question is if the Mets had been serious in trying to be a contender this year and more money was available, would we want essentially two Mike Pelfreys in the rotation both who could still possibly break out or settle back into never having reach the potential predicted.
Washington is trying to move up in the standings and is hoping their gamble will pay off. Jackson might not be the answer to help them achieve that. If that was the same objective for the Mets, I could understand Sandy not going after an arm that would not be any much better than those he already has while at the same time, being committed to just one year could also be worth a shot for if successful, then one of the other starters could do long relief and shore up the pen.
If one believes the core of young talent on the parent club is going nowhere then one does have a valid point saying we have too many holes that could not be fixed all at once so indeed take the time to rebuild from within and it really wouldn’t matter if the Wilpons had the money to spend for it would probably be wasted. But those of us who do like the young talent we already have instead see the only objective of the Mets is for the Wilpons to retain ownership while working themselves out of debt and re-building was a result of finances, not players.
(No offense to you Alex!)
The Rotten Core of Idiocy never takes a break here!
No one wanted Jackson for much money at all, and this will be his SIXTH team in five years.
I guess the GMs of Tampa, Detroit, Arizona, the ChiSox, and St L are all morons too.
Gee, how many of those teams have made the postseason the last few years and been to the World Series?
A few of them you say?
And they ALL got rid of Edwin the Great?
Hmmmmm…..
Seriously, never have I seen a greater quantity of aggressive ignorance spewed so freely in such concentrated and impressive doses.
Pomes, Bayonne, and Metsie could be trapped in a room with the one means of escape being to cobble together 100 IQ points among them, and they’d never make it out.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
Don’t hold back Knog.
Hold back? Me?
Not to worry Stkci, won’t happen.
Seriously, these guys make Ceetar look like a cross between Bill James and Einstein.
Hahaha poor Ceet.
any is one of the more vocal supporters of civility around here, OH…but when the the tables are turned..only THEN are incendiary comments acceptable. Got it.
any – as benign as they come and as PHONY and one-sided as them all.
and the person he defends? A complete IDIOT from a failed blog who comes here, knocks this blog and has absolutely NO IDEA about the game of baseball and thinks that looking at a stat sheet is all u need to know to make decisions and a person who gets completely offended when you question the methods and this HORRENDOUS Front Office then he comes here with childish rants.
It’s as plain as day for anybody is just a fan of baseball and been a fan of the Mets that after all is said is done this front office is clearly not trying to compete and if they are they are doing a VERY BAD, BAD job of it and clearly being outplayed by other teams who’s GMs are getting very good players at prices that cumulatively could have fit in the Mets budge – oh – and while building the farm at the same time. I don’t see what the problem is in bringing that to light. It’s obvious.
Yep, it’s all about the front office first, and the Mets second. This clown kingman is a loud mouthed numbers cruncher who knows NOTHING about baseball
Speaking of childish rants…………….
Bayonne, there’s nothing more entertaining than a complete ignoramus who stands on a soapbox and screams his idiotic rantings through a megaphone as you do.
Five other teams—all with a good bit of success over the last 6–8 years—all have let Edwin Jackson go. Including the 2011 World Series champs, who did not want him back.
But our GM and all of those others are idiots for not signing him.
Six teams in five years, good numbers at best, let go by a string of successful franchises and signed by one which has yet to have a good season, and Sandy is doing a terrible job by not making a “great” signing and getting Jackson?
Keep it up chief. Seriously, you are a museum specimen.
A perfect idiot is rare indeed. And you sir, are that.
You have to understand Kingman that had Alderson signed Jackson it would have been 180 degrees the other way.
That’s why he never offers an opinion before the fact, that way he can play it either way. Either we should have signed the guy or we shouldn’t have depending on what actually occurs.
No thought given to the fact that some players may prefer to play elsewhere as a first preference either.
Every player is just dying to play in front of such a vocal yet statistically insignificant minority of the fan base, just ask Carlos Beltran.
Yeah, I know you are right. I am just having fun with him, kind of like how a cat bats around a dead mouse.
This:
“Every player is just dying to play in front of such a vocal yet statistically insignificant minority of the fan base, just ask Carlos Beltran.”
Is pretty hilarious.
Oh, and a “failed blog”?
Well, if not having a trio of the biggest idiots in blog history like you, Pomes, and Metsie is having “failed”? Then sign me up for failure!
We don’t have people like you at our blog; we care about quality, not quantity.
Blogs who host your kind care solely about numbers, not quality. My guess is Metsblog (rightly) banned you after your one day of getting routinely pummeled over there.
And believe it or not, I actually often mock those who are over-reliant on things like WAR and UZR. I am far from a “Sabergeek”—to me, the wise person uses ALL of the tools at one’s disposal to evaluate players. WAR, OPS, BA, OBP, everything. It’s inane and foolish to solely rely on the newest stats OR to be like you, and have a 1975 approach, judging batters solely on BA/HR/RBI.
“Just when I thought I was out, they pulled me back in”.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Thank you Michael Corleone from III.
If you are right, I am going to be really annoyed.
LOL!
Really, I think I am here primarily because you, TRS, Stick, NJTX, and MF4D are here. I am not a follower, as I am sure you would agree, but I would follow you guys just about anywhere.
After all, you are the cool kids.
Same exact reason why I got dragged into here. Bayonne was being a jerk to MF4D one day and it set me off and I’ve been trapped ever sense.
What is this article about, I don’t know.
LOL – I refuse to take anyone seriously who writes off an entire gender as not having his brand of ‘requiremnts’ to understand and discuss baseball based solely on the fact that I’m female.
True ignorance. What is this? 1940????
I’d offer that it’s much closer to intimidation than ignorance. He seems to have a huge hangup when it comes to women.
If Bayonne hadn’t called you out on being a woman, I swear I would never have known. You have just as much game as anyone here and more class than most, and that’s the truth.
Ignorance is not, unfortunately, confined to the 1940′s. It’s still here, in all it’s glory, refined, evolved and ready for action.
I might have stumbled on to a diagnosis. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/27/intelligence-study-links-prejudice_n_1237796.html
You may just have discovered the root cause of the problem X, and opened up a whole new line of insight and discovery.
Clearly he should be psycho analyzed.
don’t hold back bayonne.
Oh, btw, that is a subtle retort to point out to someone that they are going kind of heavy on the rant juice.
I like Edwin for a team that needs an extra SP for a playoff push. A 1 year deal is a nice fit for Washington.
I told JoeD earlier yesterday that I feel something has to be with him though. Why do so many teams dump him off to other teams?
For me, Washington’s entire 2012 season is dependant on Strasburg being healthy. If they don’t have his health plus Chien-Ming Wang bouncing back to full health, Edwin will just be a trade piece in the summer (again)
He’s an innings eater for sure, and an odd pitcher for sure. I like Edwin but nobody spilled my milk here so I refuse to cry about it.
I still don’t buy into this idea that the Mets are a 100 loss team. I think anybody who says that is just being negative because it’s trendy.
Yes, the fact that Jackson has bounced around so much in such short a time indicates something we’re not aware of.
Could it be his being a disruptive force in the clubhouse that teams consider not worth the aggrevation? Don’t want to imply that, but it’s the only thing I can think of – ala Lastings Milege who became too much of a headache for the Mets, Nationals, Pirates, White Sox and soon to become a disruptive force in international relations.
The fact that people are actually complaining here about an Edwin Jackson signing is just laughable. All he’s good for is being trade bait come trade deadline time. It’s definitely not talent wise. Somehow, he reels in good talent or is traded with horrible talent. To this day, I have no clue what Kenny Williams was thinking trading away a great talent like Daniel Hudson to Arizona for Jackson.
traded with GOOD talent*