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		<title>By: stick</title>
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		<dc:creator>stick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good stuff.  glad to see him fighting back after getting slandered.  Or libeled.  Whichever one he got!

you are right though that Braun should have gone into hiding, and not pushed his luck like this.  

my HO of course was that he got caught, and snaked out of the punishment, but he was far from &quot;innocent&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good stuff.  glad to see him fighting back after getting slandered.  Or libeled.  Whichever one he got!</p>
<p>you are right though that Braun should have gone into hiding, and not pushed his luck like this.  </p>
<p>my HO of course was that he got caught, and snaked out of the punishment, but he was far from &#8220;innocent&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Reyes situation conflicted with the small market mindset that Alderson brought with him to New York which, by his own admission, includes strong reluctance to offer late 20′s players more than a 3 or 4 year deal.&quot;

When he ran the A&#039;s, they were frequently one the top payrolls in the league. The payroll here was getting cut. With or without Alderson.Selig sent Alderson here to cut payroll and help fix the finances while developing new talent. Hopefully, by the time the young guns are ready to produce, there Wilpons&#039; financial issues will be resolved one way or the other and there will be money not only to retain the young guns, but to add to them as well.

Also, high payroll does not automatically translate into success. Mets fans and Cubs fans should be well acquainted with that idea. If the team is not built with a solid foundation, it doesn&#039;t matter how many free agents you buy or for how long.

Long term contracts rarely, if ever work out. And usually, the few that do work out are just for teams in win now mode at the time of signing. If you go look at all the 5+ year deals that were signed between 2000 and 2008, how many actually worked out for more than half the length of the deal?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Reyes situation conflicted with the small market mindset that Alderson brought with him to New York which, by his own admission, includes strong reluctance to offer late 20′s players more than a 3 or 4 year deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>When he ran the A&#8217;s, they were frequently one the top payrolls in the league. The payroll here was getting cut. With or without Alderson.Selig sent Alderson here to cut payroll and help fix the finances while developing new talent. Hopefully, by the time the young guns are ready to produce, there Wilpons&#8217; financial issues will be resolved one way or the other and there will be money not only to retain the young guns, but to add to them as well.</p>
<p>Also, high payroll does not automatically translate into success. Mets fans and Cubs fans should be well acquainted with that idea. If the team is not built with a solid foundation, it doesn&#8217;t matter how many free agents you buy or for how long.</p>
<p>Long term contracts rarely, if ever work out. And usually, the few that do work out are just for teams in win now mode at the time of signing. If you go look at all the 5+ year deals that were signed between 2000 and 2008, how many actually worked out for more than half the length of the deal?</p>
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		<title>By: kingman 26</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingman 26</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 22:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nah, the folks you mention are literally like a fraction of 1% of the fan base. A guy like Bayonne? He&#039;s like .001% of the fan base and meaningless other than his diatribes here which are read by a few dozen people maybe.

Fans who come to sites like this are a minority, and fans who read comment sections are a much smaller minority, and as Matt Cerrone has said, the people who actually log in and make comments are an even tinier minority.

You sir, are here, at Metsblog, and at the Ledger, where many, many maladjusted fans with zero sense of perspective or real baseball knowledge visit to vent their lack of self esteem in the form of Met rants.

Seriously---the fans you refer to definitely exist, but I would guess they amount to a truly microscopic fraction of the overall fan base. As we are in New York, this does translate to there being more of them than any other team has.

But still, they really are, as the cliche goes, sound and fury signifying nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, the folks you mention are literally like a fraction of 1% of the fan base. A guy like Bayonne? He&#8217;s like .001% of the fan base and meaningless other than his diatribes here which are read by a few dozen people maybe.</p>
<p>Fans who come to sites like this are a minority, and fans who read comment sections are a much smaller minority, and as Matt Cerrone has said, the people who actually log in and make comments are an even tinier minority.</p>
<p>You sir, are here, at Metsblog, and at the Ledger, where many, many maladjusted fans with zero sense of perspective or real baseball knowledge visit to vent their lack of self esteem in the form of Met rants.</p>
<p>Seriously&#8212;the fans you refer to definitely exist, but I would guess they amount to a truly microscopic fraction of the overall fan base. As we are in New York, this does translate to there being more of them than any other team has.</p>
<p>But still, they really are, as the cliche goes, sound and fury signifying nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Woah woah woah, so because you are older then some of the people that read this blog makes you superior to us?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah woah woah, so because you are older then some of the people that read this blog makes you superior to us?</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 21:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It’s just a very short-sighted move when the player let go is on Hall-of-Fame pace &quot;

Hey, don&#039;t change the subject. We&#039;re talking about Reyes.

&quot;3,000 hits, 600 steals has happened 5 times in MLB history and Reyes is well on that pace.&quot;

No, he isn&#039;t. 

The reality is locking into Reyes for 6 years and $120 million would not have been wise for the long or short term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s just a very short-sighted move when the player let go is on Hall-of-Fame pace &#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, don&#8217;t change the subject. We&#8217;re talking about Reyes.</p>
<p>&#8220;3,000 hits, 600 steals has happened 5 times in MLB history and Reyes is well on that pace.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, he isn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>The reality is locking into Reyes for 6 years and $120 million would not have been wise for the long or short term.</p>
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		<title>By: trs86</title>
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		<dc:creator>trs86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sorry I just can&#039;t say that Reyes is currently on a HOF pace.  He&#039;s a great player but I don&#039;t see him as a HOF or even on that pace.  Neither is Wright.  

Larkin was a question among some and finished: .295	.371	.444	.815	
2340 hits, 198 HR, 960 RBI, 379 SB, 1329 runs

Reyes would need to double his hits, runs, HR, RBI, and would still not have as impressive of numbers.  Obviously Larkin also played until age 40 but because his game was not built on just speed actually had some of his best years in his early to mid-30&#039;s.  Could Reyes do that?  Sure but he would need to in order to be on a HOF pace IMO.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry I just can&#8217;t say that Reyes is currently on a HOF pace.  He&#8217;s a great player but I don&#8217;t see him as a HOF or even on that pace.  Neither is Wright.  </p>
<p>Larkin was a question among some and finished: .295	.371	.444	.815<br />
2340 hits, 198 HR, 960 RBI, 379 SB, 1329 runs</p>
<p>Reyes would need to double his hits, runs, HR, RBI, and would still not have as impressive of numbers.  Obviously Larkin also played until age 40 but because his game was not built on just speed actually had some of his best years in his early to mid-30&#8242;s.  Could Reyes do that?  Sure but he would need to in order to be on a HOF pace IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not really at least not without his hammer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not really at least not without his hammer.</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tell you the truth He probably will be better about those things than anyone we&#039;ve had here since the early 70&#039;s.

I really wouldn&#039;t be expecting too many Bonilla, Saberhagan, Coleman, Alomar, Vaughn, Burnitz, Zeile, Alou, Bay, and Schowenweiss types brought in here as this organization has specialized in over the last 20 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you the truth He probably will be better about those things than anyone we&#8217;ve had here since the early 70&#8242;s.</p>
<p>I really wouldn&#8217;t be expecting too many Bonilla, Saberhagan, Coleman, Alomar, Vaughn, Burnitz, Zeile, Alou, Bay, and Schowenweiss types brought in here as this organization has specialized in over the last 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 20:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m willing to bet if they had discussed a deal at that time and got it done, it wouldn&#039;t have cost any 100 MIL + for 6 years.

Of course there is no way of knowing if Reyes would have been open to resigning then either.  As much as he kept talking about being excited going through FA for the first time, he might have taken a pass at any offer during that off season as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m willing to bet if they had discussed a deal at that time and got it done, it wouldn&#8217;t have cost any 100 MIL + for 6 years.</p>
<p>Of course there is no way of knowing if Reyes would have been open to resigning then either.  As much as he kept talking about being excited going through FA for the first time, he might have taken a pass at any offer during that off season as well.</p>
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		<title>By: t agee</title>
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		<dc:creator>t agee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the off season before ST in 2010 Reyes was running great.  He was an absolute beast where he trained in LI.  Hamstring hadn&#039;t been tested in game conditions or the baseball grind but it was healed.  100%.  Any questions about the surgery could have been allayed with an MRI.

Then he had the thyroid thing but assuming that wasn&#039;t considered a long term threat that would have been the time to discuss a deal and get one done.  By August it was too late.  Minaya was on his way out and the well was running dry.  Pennies had to be pinched and now here we are.

Marlins taking our guys.  Unbelievable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the off season before ST in 2010 Reyes was running great.  He was an absolute beast where he trained in LI.  Hamstring hadn&#8217;t been tested in game conditions or the baseball grind but it was healed.  100%.  Any questions about the surgery could have been allayed with an MRI.</p>
<p>Then he had the thyroid thing but assuming that wasn&#8217;t considered a long term threat that would have been the time to discuss a deal and get one done.  By August it was too late.  Minaya was on his way out and the well was running dry.  Pennies had to be pinched and now here we are.</p>
<p>Marlins taking our guys.  Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>By: FP Mets</title>
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		<dc:creator>FP Mets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m pretty sure Thor can fly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure Thor can fly.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, yeah, I know.....understand the reasoning behind the decision.  
Just knew he&#039;d be gone though if they didn&#039;t get that done before the season started.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, yeah, I know&#8230;..understand the reasoning behind the decision.<br />
Just knew he&#8217;d be gone though if they didn&#8217;t get that done before the season started.</p>
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		<title>By: LongTimeFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>LongTimeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t liked Alderson within a week of his hiring. He might eventually build a winner, but his disconnect to the relationships that bind fans to players, and players to fans as people, rather than commodities, turns my stomach. So too his circumvention of nearly every question asked. He tops my list of those who utter words aplenty but basically say nothing with the exception of two days ago when he actually provided straight-forward answers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t liked Alderson within a week of his hiring. He might eventually build a winner, but his disconnect to the relationships that bind fans to players, and players to fans as people, rather than commodities, turns my stomach. So too his circumvention of nearly every question asked. He tops my list of those who utter words aplenty but basically say nothing with the exception of two days ago when he actually provided straight-forward answers.</p>
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		<title>By: srt</title>
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		<dc:creator>srt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This just begs the question of.....if the official collector followed standard protocol, why did the 3rd party arbitrator rule in favor of Braun&#039;s appeal?

Is it because - even though procedures were followed - there still could have been some slight chance of tampering?
Jeeze, if that was the case, sending them FedEx at all could come into question.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This just begs the question of&#8230;..if the official collector followed standard protocol, why did the 3rd party arbitrator rule in favor of Braun&#8217;s appeal?</p>
<p>Is it because &#8211; even though procedures were followed &#8211; there still could have been some slight chance of tampering?<br />
Jeeze, if that was the case, sending them FedEx at all could come into question.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You Welcome guys, the CORE always glad to help out and provide facts.. he&#039;s a liar, a cheater, and of course, after being asked about it, he declined to comment of offer any more talks about his usage of PED, this is clemens 2.0, had he shut the **** up when this was blown over this wouldn&#039;t have happened... now, this will follow him around, who do you believe now SB?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You Welcome guys, the CORE always glad to help out and provide facts.. he&#8217;s a liar, a cheater, and of course, after being asked about it, he declined to comment of offer any more talks about his usage of PED, this is clemens 2.0, had he shut the **** up when this was blown over this wouldn&#8217;t have happened&#8230; now, this will follow him around, who do you believe now SB?</p>
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		<title>By: LongTimeFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>LongTimeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s just a very short-sighted move when the player let go is on Hall-of-Fame pace and still would be only 30, 31 when the Mets become big force. 3,000 hits, 600 steals has happened 5 times in MLB history and Reyes is well on that pace. It&#039;s not just losing a player, it&#039;s losing an historic talent just coming into his own, not so much as making an honest offer to retain him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just a very short-sighted move when the player let go is on Hall-of-Fame pace and still would be only 30, 31 when the Mets become big force. 3,000 hits, 600 steals has happened 5 times in MLB history and Reyes is well on that pace. It&#8217;s not just losing a player, it&#8217;s losing an historic talent just coming into his own, not so much as making an honest offer to retain him.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex68</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex68</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Longtime, Like a snake he tried to blame the reyes situation on EVERYTHING else BUT HIM, by admitting as soon as reyes sign the mets lost $70 million... why wasn&#039;t this said before??? then the box of chocolate comment, the man is a small market GM, who was brought here to slash payroll and somehow put a team on the field, that might&#039;ve worked in Oakland because NOBODY cares, but here in NY things are put to the test rather quickly... only his saber fans are not seeing this guy for the fraud he is... franchise players my as*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Longtime, Like a snake he tried to blame the reyes situation on EVERYTHING else BUT HIM, by admitting as soon as reyes sign the mets lost $70 million&#8230; why wasn&#8217;t this said before??? then the box of chocolate comment, the man is a small market GM, who was brought here to slash payroll and somehow put a team on the field, that might&#8217;ve worked in Oakland because NOBODY cares, but here in NY things are put to the test rather quickly&#8230; only his saber fans are not seeing this guy for the fraud he is&#8230; franchise players my as*</p>
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		<title>By: Joe D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, now that&#039;s interesting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, now that&#8217;s interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr North Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr North Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good read thanks for posting this Alex.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good read thanks for posting this Alex.</p>
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		<title>By: LongTimeFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>LongTimeFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 19:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Reyes situation conflicted with the small market mindset that Alderson brought with him to New York which, by his own admission, includes strong reluctance to offer late 20&#039;s players more than a 3 or 4 year deal. He didn&#039;t even make Reyes a formal offer purely of his own doing, just easier to pass off as the Wilpons&#039; by the Wilpon-hating crowd. The situation also gives cover to Alderson whether he sought it or not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Reyes situation conflicted with the small market mindset that Alderson brought with him to New York which, by his own admission, includes strong reluctance to offer late 20&#8242;s players more than a 3 or 4 year deal. He didn&#8217;t even make Reyes a formal offer purely of his own doing, just easier to pass off as the Wilpons&#8217; by the Wilpon-hating crowd. The situation also gives cover to Alderson whether he sought it or not.</p>
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