Binghamton Losing Their Double-A Baseball Squad

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• jessep February 10, 2012 at 12:49 pm

  The problem with Brooklyn becoming a AA team is sustaining the audience down there for a long season.

  I get the mystique of having them be the AA but I honestly think they are a perfect team to be short-season. I’ve been to that stadium several times through my old job and when that place gets wind, it gets pretty dang cold. Now imagine April, May, and a little further into September maybe.

  Plus it’s a perfect summer marketing tool, I think Brooklyn is exactly where it needs to be.

  I am hoping this New Britain thing turns out to be true. Be huge for me and my family haha… selfish I know!
• any February 10, 2012 at 12:54 pm

  too bad they can’t get something down in south jersey. Trenton would be perfect!

  There is a nice stadium in Wilmington del. too.
  • XtreemIcon February 10, 2012 at 1:04 pm

    Pretty sure Trenton already has a team…….
    • jessep February 10, 2012 at 1:10 pm

      Trenton is NYY

      CT is actually perfect for the Mets in my view. You have fans of 3 teams right here in the state, and if the plan is for the future… you have a chance to pull fans to your side of the aisle by watching the best prospects the Mets have.

      AA baseball has always been my favorite.
      • t agee February 10, 2012 at 2:03 pm

        For those that listen with their eyes the Binghamton Mets are having a sale on their merchandise right now.
    • any February 10, 2012 at 4:15 pm

      Yes, I know that Trenton is taken (hence the “too bad they can’t” comment).

      I was just wishing they could head down this way (to Philly palnd). CT. doesn’t do anything for me.
  • Des February 10, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    any — The Wilmington Blue Rocks play in Frawley Stadium in Wilmington, DE. It’s very nice but has only about 6,500 seats. The Blue Rocks play in the Advanced A Carolina League.
• Donal February 10, 2012 at 1:04 pm

  I’d heard about Buffalo, didn’t know Binghamton was an issue as well.
  • Des February 10, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    Donal — Both Buffalo and Binghamton have had sucko teams in the recent past. Any GM who wants to do a good job needs to sign a bunch of AAA players. They provide short term backup for the big team and they help draw fannies into the minor league park. At Tidewater, the local officials were ticked off at the Mets for not fielding better teams.

    On MMO, we’ve seen many criticisms of marginal big league players being signed. Maybe the above explanation and the displeasure of Buffalo, Bingo and Tidewater officials who listen to alternative offers gives us the reasons why Sandy has to do this.
    • METS62FAN February 11, 2012 at 10:59 am

      MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT THRY LEARN FROM PAST MISTAKIES AND MAINTAIN CURRENT AFFILIATIONS ie INT’L EASTERN LEAGUES, ETC THE ZERPHYR EXPERIMENT IN THE PCL WAS A DISATER FROM MYM PERSPECTIVE, A TOTAL DISCONNECTION FROM THE FAnbase as well as the competitive comparisons! TOO BAD, OWNERSHIP IS CLUELESS TO WHAT OMAR LEARNED AS IS SANDY, DiPOTO WHOSE ROOTS LIE FIRMLY PLANTED NEAR THE LEFT COAST ESP AS JERRY STILL RESIDES IN SAN DIEGO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE THUS SHORTENING HIS TRAVELOGUES THROUGH THE FLOCK HE’S TENDING. THIS COULD, PERHAPS BECOME A MISERABLE EXPERIERNCE WHEREBY THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE LOOKING TO CUT ANY EXPENSE INCL R&D WITH THE EMPHASIS ON “D” & THE ‘R’ TRANSLATING TO SCOUTING AS WHAT OFTEN BEGINS AS A RETROFIT INTO A MORE COST EFFECTIVE DESIGN ENDS UP BECOMING A TEARDOWN PROJECT LEAVING NO MORE THAN THE ORIGINAL DIRT FROM WHHICH TO REBUILD IT CERTAINLY, FROM A WILPON {INTENT ON KEEPING] PERSPECTIVE LESSEN THE PRESSURE TO SELL A BArely recognizable ‘brand’ ; BUT THAT’S THE DARKEST SIDE OF THIS MOON, A GLIMMER OF WHICH WE MAY HAVE SEEN WITH THE THINNING PROCESS COMMENCING WITH ADV-A PSL BY CONCENTRATING THE TALENT INTO FEWER BEAKERS MAKING IT APPEAR MORE POTENT THAN IT ACTUALLY IS. WITH MLB PAYROLL SLICED TO IT’S THINNEST SEETHROUGH DEPTH, FIXED ASSET MAINTENANCE EXPENSES COVERED BY NAMING RIGHTS CONTRACT THE LEAVERAGE OF TICKET SALES IS BEING NULLIFIED AS WE WATCH IT UNFOLD; LAYOFFS HAVE ALREADY DEEPLY CUT THE FRONTOFFICE OVERHEAD OF GENERAL ADNMINISTRATORS/SECRETARIES VERY DECEPTIVELY THE WILPON MONOLITH HAS IMMUNIZED ITSELF FROM THE PROLETARIAT FANBASE’S “POWER OF THE FANNY”MAKING TURNSTILE REVOLUTIONS LESS OF A VIABLE THREAT TO THEIR EXISTANCE AS OWNERS SINCE MAINTAINING OWNERSHIP HAS LONG BEEN THE WILPON PRIME DIRECTIVE MUCH AS WINNG WS IS TO NYY AS PART & PARCEL TO THE FAMILIAL DNA.
      • t agee February 11, 2012 at 11:15 am

        ’62, How you doing?

        Think your were talking about Paul Depodesta in SD. Possibly not ideal but on the other hand being so close to the California League (A+) and PCL (AAA) and right in the heart of some of the best amateur legion clubs, tournaments and HS ball could actually be a big leg up.

        Cutting the Scouting and Development legs is almost incomprehensibly idiotic, therefore it must have made perfect sense. Cutting a rookie league team only makes sense if your going to coach kids on technique in that facility (which is part of the ST complex) in a full season type extended ST, them move them to Kingsport mid season and the kids in Kingsport to Savannah.

        There is no reason why the NY Mets shouldn’t have the best of the best scouting and development programs and plenty of scouts for every Major League team, all their affiliates and enough to concentrate exclusively on amateurs both here and in the Caribbean.

        Anything less is an insult to the fans, those costs are cab fare compared to Schowenweiss, Wagner, Bay, Castillo, Perez and Alou.

        Met Minor Leagues have been a joke for years.
        • t agee February 11, 2012 at 11:32 am

          I also cannot understand why they have to sign player development contracts in stead of owning their minor league affiliates outright like the Braves do.

          Speaking of which the Braves have TEN of Sickles top 100 prospects and that’s after graduating Heyward, Freeman, Kimbrell, Venters, Beachy, Minor and Hanson in the last couple of years.
        • METS62FAN February 11, 2012 at 11:45 am

          T, THANNKS FOR CATCHING MY BRAINCRAMP, I WAS REFEERRRING TO DePODESTA; BUT NOE THAT THJOSE BIG TICKET FOLLIES ARE ALREADY TRIMMED, NEXT TO GO IS CAB FARE AS THEIR IMMUNIZATION CONTINUES, FANS WILL BE FACED WITH THE MUCH MORE DIFFICULT LEVERAGING AGAINST CITICORP AS ,LONG AS THEIR NAME IS ON THE SITE. VERY QUIETLY THEW WILPONS HAVE INSULATED THEIR MONEYMAKERS, NAMING RIGHTS, SNY FROM THE CLUB. ONCE THEY REACH A POINT OF COMPLETELY CLOSING OFF ALL FLOW TO THE TEAM THEY’LL BE ONE STEP NEARER CUTTING THE NY TETHERLINE(ANCHOR) BY DEVALUING THE TEAM THE PRIOSPECTS OF KEEPING IT THROUGH A STERLING STRIP MINING FOR VALUE CONDUCTED BY COURT ORDER INCREASES PERCEPTIVELY
          I STILL MAINTAIN FRED’S OWBERSHIP IS THE PRIME DIRECTIVE ABOVE ALL OTHER CONSIDERATIONS.
          • t agee February 11, 2012 at 11:59 am

            Maintaining ownership has to be the #1 priority since it’s the Mets that fund the other entities like SNY, merchandizing, concessions ect.

            I have no problem going with the kids for a couple of years as long as we’re pumping high talent into the system behind them and developing them correctly. The problem is we really won’t know how well that’s being done for a few years but it does provide us with our only possible chance now that fundings been cut off.

            To Omar’s credit there is a higher level of talent in the farm now than at any point since the early 80′s. The Mazz-Darling and Beltran-Wheeler trades really speed things along but those type deals require a through knowledge of everyone’s farm system in order to make the best move and that requires many eyes on all the minor league affiliates.

            Say hello to Reyes advocate for me and let him know I’m just as bummed as you guys over it.
            • METS62FAN February 12, 2012 at 8:31 am

              T, I’VE ALREADY PASSED YOUR MESSAGE ALONG; HOWEVER, HE’S LOST INTEREST AS HIS ABSENCE FROM THESE BOARDS FOR SOMETIME WOULD INDICATE; IV’E BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD AS I HAVE SO MANY OTHERS BEFORE AS WITH HIS SISTER WHEN HEWR PERSONAL FAVORITE PLAYERS WERE INCLUDEDE IN DEALS(DOUG FLUNN, HUBIE BROOKS) AS MY DAUGHTER’S ALLEGIANCE WAS MORE EMOTIONALLY BASED THAN STRATEGICAL TALENT BASED I WAS ABLE TO SALVAGE HER THO KEEP HER FANDOM BREATHING UBTIL NOW AS A 42 YR OLD MOTHER OF 2 MET FANS; THOUGH I MAY BE AT A LOSS TO SALVAGE A THIRD FAVORITE’S(WRIGHT) LOSS. T, ON THE RATHER HUMOROUS SIDE, I, AN IRISH/ITALIAN ROOTED AMERICAN AM MARRIED TO A FINE RUSSIAN JEWISH LADY, WHOSE EVER FAMILY GATHERING REVOLVES AROUND FOOD I POINTED OUT TO HER HOQW OBVIOUS IT WAS THE WILPONS WANTED TO BE RID OF REYES AS THEY DIDN’T EVEN OFFER TO EAT WITH HIM BEFORE HIS LEAVING. lol
              T, AS U KNOW I HAVE A SMALL GROUP, I ACTIVELY KEEP INFORMED OF NYM ACTIVITIES ALONG WITH MY PERSONAL POSITION ON THE SUBJECT & IF I MAY, I’D LIKE TO SHARE A BIT OF WHAT I WROTE CONCERNING THESE MOST RECENT PICARD ALLEGATIONS OF PRESUMED KNOWLEDGE BY STERLING PRINCIPLES, IF I MAY;
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              Madoff trustee Irving Picard claims Mets owners Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz knew about Bernie Madoff’s Ponzi scheme but loved pr PERSONALLY I SEE NO CORRELATION BETWEEN HAVING VAST KNOWLEDGE OF THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE MARKET & KNOWNING MORE THJAN THE AVG PERSON ABOUT THE STOCKS & BONDS MARKETS. WHILE ALL THIS PROVES IS WILPON/KATZ’ LOYALTY NEEDING MORE THAN A COMPETITORS’S QUESTIONING OF SMELSS AS THE INVESTOR’S LOGICAL TEST WOULD NECESSARILY BE THE ABILITY FOR MADOFF TO SEEMINGLY PROVIDE ALL THE RETURNS HE PROMISED AS WELL AS FULL & COMPLETE ACCESS TO THEIR INVESTMENTS WHENEVER NEEDED, THUS PICARD BY NATURE OF THIS CHANGED SET OF THEOORETICAL ALLEGATIONS, TO ME AT LEAST, IS PROVIDING A VERY RATIONAL EXPLAINATION FOR WHAT HE RECOUNTED AS HIS INITIAL SMOKING GUN THAT STERLING KNEW SOMETHING WAS AFOOT BY TRACKING ALL THE WITHDRAWAL ACTIVITIES WHICH AS I ALREADY WAS AWARE WAS NECESSITATED BY CERTAIN PAYMENTS BEING MADE DIRECTLY TIED TO THE INVESTMENT PURPOSE OF SPECIFIC ACCOUNTS ie BONILLA DEFERRED PAYMENTS, STRAWBERY’S PAYMENTS AS WELL AS ALL THE DEFERRED PAYMENT ACCOUNTS NEGOTIATED THROUGH ALL OF THE BACKLOADED CONTRACTS THE WILPONS SPEWCIALIZED IN SINCE ’05, BE IT PEDRO, GLAVINE, BELTRAN ALL OF THOSE SPECIFICALLY & DIRECTLY NERGOTIATED WITH FREE AGENTS SINCE ’05 INCL THE ONGOING SANTANA CONTRACT EACH CONTRACT HAD A SEPARATE ACCOUNT SETUP AS AN ESCROW Account bearing intereast to the player at a rate level set below the promised earnings by madoff, thus allowing the mets to continue to make money for themselves on the monies rightfully due their players as this was all prenegotiated at the time of contract completion, there was nothing untoward or illegal transpiring; but, to me, it further proves the blythe UNAWARE INNOCENCE OF WILPON/KATZ DURING THE ENTIRE PONZI OPERATION AS LONG AS THEY ASLWAYS GOT THEIR WITHDRAWALS THEY NEEDED WHEN THEY NEEDED @ THE PROMISED RETURN RATES WHY WIOULD ANYONE QUESTION THE OBVIOUS “GENIUS” OF THEIR ACCOUNTS MANAGER SINCE HE WAS OBVIOUSLY PERFORMING BETTER THAN THOSE EMPLOYED BY OTHERS I KNEW OF. HOW FORTUNATE FOR STERLING THAT THEY WERE SO CLOSE TO GENIUS, A FINANCIAL MNGR IN GREAT DEMAND WITH A WAITING LIST OF PERSPECTIVE CLIENTS WHO’D SO FAR HAD BEEN SUBMITTED TO & PASSED NUMEROUS FEDERAL INQUIRIES & INVESTIGATIONS AS EVERYONEKNOWS INVESTMENT IN ASNY MARKETPKLACE IS A GAMBLE, HELL, WITH THIS WHITE HOUSE EVEN SAVINGS BONDS & OTHER ONCE “GUARANTEED” INVESTMENTS WITH THE FEDERAL GOV’T ARE NOT THE CERTAIN FOOLPTOOF, LOSSPROOF ASSURETY THEY ONCE WERE.
              I UOU’RE IN VEGAS & WINNING BY BACKKING THE ROLLER’S PLAY AT THER CRAPS TABLE DO U QUESTION THE LERGITIMACY OF THE DICE IN USE? PROBABVLY NOT AS U PRESUME THE HOUSE HAS A HANDLE ON IT. SAME THING HERE, STERLING PRESUMED THE FEDS AFTER THEIR INVESTIGATIONS COMING UP EMPTY, MORE OR LESS GAVE “TH MADOFF GAME” A CLEAN BILL.

              ONLY THROUGH ASSUMPTIONS & PRESUMPTIONS CAN ANYONE POSSIBLY FIND FAULT WITH STERLING’S BEHAVIOR.

              THE ONLY REAL PROOF, WOULD BE IF MADOFF HAD EVER BALKED AT A PAYMENT REQUEST, NDICATING THE UNAVAILABILITY OF FUNDS AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE SUPPORTING THAT EVER HAPPENING AS BERNIE CONFESSED LONG BEFORE THE INEVITABLE OCCURRED AFTER THE ENTIRE MARKET COOLKLAPSED & HIS EARLY CLOSEOUT REQURSTS FROM INVESTORS SIGNIFICANTLY DEPLETED HIS CASH ON HAND DRYING UP HIS LIQUIDITY.

              IS THERE ANY WONDER, WHY PIVVARD NEEDS A LEAP OF JUDGEMENT TO PRESUME WHAT A SANE PERSON SHOULD & SHOULDN’T KNOW. CERTAINLY EXPERIENCED MARKET EXPERTTS CLAIM “IT’S OBVIOUS”; BUT THEERE IS NO INDICATION EITHER FRED OR SAUL WERE ANY MORE EXPERT IN ANY MARKETS OUTSIDE OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE
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• D.C. February 10, 2012 at 1:32 pm

  Holy Shit!
• John L. February 10, 2012 at 1:42 pm

  BMETS ownership denies this story. http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20120210/SPORTS02/202100326/Binghamton-Mets-owner-Ottawa-not-getting-our-franchise-?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE
  • Des February 10, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    Bingo has the worst attendance in the Eastern League. Less than 1,500 tickets sold per game in 2011. Regarding the threatened move, there’s smoke but is there a fire?
• Alex68 February 10, 2012 at 2:07 pm

  They should play in rutgers, south plainfield new jersey.. it’s a very poblated area and the students on campus will go to the games… win win situation
  • any February 10, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    I know that there is some MiL team that plays at the Penn State stadium (no idea of the league though) so it is not unprecedented.
  • Who February 11, 2012 at 10:27 am

    What the heck does “poblated” mean?
• Steve from Norfolk February 10, 2012 at 3:02 pm

  If the AAA team leaves Buffalo, I’d like to see them come back to Norfolk. The Mets invested a lot of money building our stadium that the Orioles (barf !) AAA team is taking advantage of now. Please rescue us from TRULY AWFUL baseball!
  • any February 10, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    I went to a game there once. But I think it was the old stadium (they built a new one not that long ago, right?)

    Maybe they can get a team in ALbany, but I assume there already is one. At least that is in NY, and not horribly far from Queens.
• Metsie February 10, 2012 at 6:07 pm

  They pretty much have a AA Affiliate playing in CitiField don’t they? LOL