Comments on: 2012 Mets Outlook Through Rose Colored Glasses

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:54:16 +0000

Yup

By: trs86

trs86 — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:49:45 +0000

Right, so the only way they are getting the package equivalent of two seasons is if Wright will allow a renegotiation window the the acquiring team.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:42:43 +0000

The option can only be picked up by the Mets after the season ends. Otherwise, they should have picked it up last year and that would have significantly raised his value this year if he does have a good year.

By: trs86

trs86 — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:26:45 +0000

There’s a couple of flaws with this and it’s based on what the offers that come back are. It appeared last year the Mets were hanging on to Beltran until San Fran caved.

Also, 2a – Wright is awful fences no help – They trade him for a song and a dance, maybe even take the option before they do to make sure they get more for him than just a rental package

Based on my understanding they can’t pickup the option this year and then trade him. The option would still be void.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:25:56 +0000

Met History being what it is you really have to put that one on TOP of the list of possibilities!

I actually fear for Ike Davis’ health right now because our Crack (smoking) medical staff CLEARED him yesterday! That could mean he is terminal!

By: Joey D.

Joey D. — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:15:41 +0000

Metsi,

You left out one other possibility.

David stubs his toe, sees the Mets medical staff and is then lost for the season.

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:44:58 +0000

well obviously before but more of a look at the trending up until the decision time (deadline comes)

Where it is at the time of the deadline will will be key to what happens at the deadline I would guess.

If it tooks like they might hit a break even on attendance/payroll this year then he might not get traded at the deadline, Take the option and then go from there and see where the next trade deadline attendance is at.

If it looks like they are going to lose more money (and at this point if attendance is the same as last year they will lose about 15-20 mil) then chances are likely Wright gets traded!

They have the option to work with so they do not need to rush it this year. here is what I think are the possibilities:

1 – Attendance sucks (worse than last year) – Wright gets traded for kids
2 – Attendance irrelevant – Someone offers a big package for him and Sandy can’t refuse!
2a – Wright is awful fences no help – They trade him for a song and a dance, maybe even take the option before they do to make sure they get more for him than just a rental package
2b – Wright is GREAT – (See #5 and or #3)
3 – Attendance is static (from last year) – If the right package comes along he goes, if not they try again next year where they have the offseason and Deadline to work with
4 – Attendance is good – Wright stays, they take the option and then talk deal
5 – Attendance is great – Wright stays and they don’t even wait for the end of the season they lock him up long term now!

Thats sort of in the order I think is most likely to happen.

By: Joey D.

Joey D. — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:12:21 +0000

Attendance – before or after he’s gone?

By: Metsie

Metsie — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:04:44 +0000

Wright’s status is not dependent on Team performance…
It’s dependent on Attendance!

By: trs86

trs86 — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:12:31 +0000

Alex when was the last time the Mets made the WS? Last time they won a championship? If winning a championship is the only thing that matters then ultimately the Mets have been failing for over a generation now.

By: trs86

trs86 — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:11:09 +0000

Is it such a good idea to offer someone with a thyroid problem junk food? My parents have thyroid issues and doc said to cut back on the sweets. Maybe Sandy was doing him a favor?

Time to move on.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:29:45 +0000

just like Jose when the only thing offered by the Mets was that box of chocolates”

our Genius GM didn’t even offered the best player in the franchise that..

By: Joey D.

Joey D. — Thu, 23 Feb 2012 05:20:42 +0000

What concerns me most is Sandy Alderson saying that David’s status would be independent of the team’s performance. If that is the case and both the Mets and David are doing well, I’m afraid we might be in for a repeat of last summer. Knowing David’s salary would command a big part of the projected payroll reductions for the years ahead doesn’t help, either.

Disagree with me about the importance that KRod and Beltran could have played in contributing to a young team’s maturity and growth but David is still young enough to be an integral part in the “rebuilding” phase and if he is sent packing, then we know it was not in the interests of the ball club as it was the owners – just like Jose when the only thing offered by the Mets was that box of chocolates.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:42:36 +0000

Lmao, the COREEEEEE, will, championships don’t matter… lol, i remember that stupid as* comment, also, he has said that a team with 1 championship in a decade was better than a team that won 4 LMAO!!!!!!!!! just because they made the playoffs 3 more times..

By: will

will — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:38:16 +0000

EARTH TO JOHN, the game is about winning not “crispness to their play ” did you turn into Jessep and you too are going to say winning championships dont matter. the trash just keeps on coming here

By: srt

srt — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:32:28 +0000

Hard for me to try and predict how many games they’ll win until the season starts.
Let’s see who is on the field, who is pitching, who might come up with an early injury that might change the whole playing field.

I like Murphy’s assessment though on DNL on SNY last night when asked about this years team:
‘With the extra wild card, 88 wins could get you a ticket to the dance’.

Murphy is going in positive.

By: stick

stick — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:17:47 +0000

good luck to you on the real life front. And sports are supposed to be a pleasant diversion, not something to make yourself miserable over (and yes, that can carry over to other areas!).

so set your expectations wherever you want them, then just enjoy watching the games, and take whatever positives you can from it.

By: stick

stick — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:15:12 +0000

75 wins, but whos counting?

getting from there to .500 is 1 win per month, plus a spare laying around someplace.

I sse them as at least a .500 team right now, assuming a normal level of health and production from the key guys. Of course if you lose your best players for 3 months or more you are going to be hurt, but on the flip side, you never know who is going to step up and replace them. Dickey in 2010, a prime example.

By: USMF

USMF — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:51:41 +0000

There is a ton of things that have to break right and nothing to go wrong for this team to “compete”…I also question Alderson’s ability to improve the team before the trade deadline to make a push if one is possible. Of course, there are a ton of long term issues facing the team and nobody can really be sure what the future holds.

That said, even though a playoff berth is almost impossible this year, I think the team is better than what are pessimistic minds are putting them at. Our pen is deep and could be pretty good, our line up as potential to be very productive, our defense is a little weak at 2nd and right, but Tejeda and Ike should help Murph and Torres should help Duda. Our rotation is a huge question mark…too many injuries, to much needed improvement and not enough depth, but it does have 5 guys that have shown they could win 15 games.

I going to (try) turn of the pessimist part of my mind until after the opening weekend. I’m going to ignore my concerns over health, depth, Wilponzie and Sandy’s direction of the team. I’m going to focus on the positive of these team and try to ignore the 25+ question marks and just be positive. I’ve had a very tough winter, lost my job and stuff, but positive leads are starting to come in…I need to start the “Spring of Positive Thinking”.