Feb
7
2012
7
2012
13 Days Until Mets Pitchers & Catchers Report To St. Lucie
An article by Hojo's Mojo
As the reporting date for pitchers and catchers nears, it seems some players couldn’t wait to head down to the Mets Spring Training Complex in Port St. Lucie to get an early start.
Are you ready for baseball? Mike Nickeas and Josh Thole are already in Port St. Lucie working out!
More early workouts from Port St. Lucie.
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I wish SNY would break ground with enhanced spring coverage.
Sure, the games are nice to see but they have an opportunity to show the fans what really goes on at Spring Training.
Would you watch 1 hour of the Mets at Spring Training, watching say Murphy take grounders at 2B, watching Torres in the cage… watching pitchers throw etc. Watching players interact with one another.
Just a 1 hour show daily or a few times a week with Burkhardt maybe PBP’ing what we’re seeing… he could have player interviews when TC lets them step away. Get to know the younger kids etc. Watch how Collins interacts with the team.
Obviously this is just a raw brainstorm, I am sure tv guys can come up with something better…
I just feel like there is so much more a “team owned” channel can present to its fans with regard to Spring Training.
Agreed.
Good idea Jessep, I’d like to see a daily roundup at least, of ALL the affiliates. Highlites, interview’s and commentary around not just the Mets but of other teams systems as well.
Exactly. There’s nothing to lose on SNY’s part of even the Mets part. Especially if they have editing capabilities. Obviously they aren’t going to broadcast a video of Matt Harvey doing his best Wild-Thing and missing the mit, but they can show you what you wanna see as a fan.
If the future is the kids, lets see the kids. Lets hear from them. Lets hear what Collins thinks about them, how Murph is doing at 2B working with Teufel, how Ike looks after the injury, how’s Wright’s swing looking?
There’s so much opportunity there.
Great idea Jessep.
I love your pitch! I think it would be a great idea to profile all the kids in Spring Training. Great job!
True, and while they are at it can they find a way to get Burkhardt more air time? Maybe a show similar to what Kay does on Yes doing weekly interviews. I feel K.B. is being wasted in how little SNY uses him.
I just feel like the best time to try new innovative things for your fans is when times are tough.
It’s similar to what the Rays did after Friedman took over. Engaging the fans more with the team, not as a distraction but as a way to build the fan experience.
It’s not like these daily workouts are secrets like in the NFL with playbooks etc.
Pretty simple, show us what the Spring Training Experience is like from a player’s perspective, coach, GM etc.
Heck, I’d be on board for a reality show where they follow say 5 prospects through Spring Training.
Would be cool.
If you want to sell me that this team is about the future then let me get to know the future. Let me watch Harvey up close and personal. Let me get to know the future of the Mets so that when they hit the field in Flushing I’m not just starting to see Harvey, I remember him from that 2012 Spring Training piece.
Rather hear Burkhardt than the big guy on Pre-game.
I can’t get enough of ST. Since I’m not in any of our minor leagues areas, ST is sometimes the only way I have getting a glimpse of some of the prospects. Once in a while I can catch a minor league game on SNY.
One of these days I’m making it down to ST…..
I would be totally down with that. SNY does a terrible job covering the Mets outside of game coverage. YES is light years ahead of them even having a batting practice show before each game as well as the extra spring coverage you just mentioned.
Those shows still suck. YES is just towing the company line. They have maybe 4 good on air people (Kim Jones, David Cone, maybe Paul O’Neil…and I don’t who) and none of them are allowed to speak out against the Yankees except when Joe Torre was leaving.
I agree Donal. SNY’s staff is much better but they don’t take advantage of opportunities to put the Mets in front of their fans as well as the Yankees do.
Does the batting practice show stink? I believe it does… but I’ll tell you one thing, it gets Yankees fans to probably flip to Yes before the game and even if its on in the background, it gives a fan a chance to see more from their team than an average fan of another team would.
I am just not feeling it for this team yet. I hope this goes away.
I live about an hour North of PSL, and usually at this time of year I am excited and filled with hope for the 2012 year.
I will be down there when Pitchers and catcher report. I will also be going to opening day(Night) vs the Nationals and several other home games.
I just wonder if I have lost hope for the upcomimg season. This team just seems hopeless in the NL East.
Not feeling it either. This team should have better personnel and right now we have a terrible front office that is making a bad situation worse so I dont’ care if ST is 15 weeks away.
Sandy Saves.
Again attempting to turn every post into the same exact discussion? You don’t like Sandy? Hmmm, I haven’t read that yet. At least you are bringing new thoughts and rational to the site.
I am sure the response will be something about my loving my Sandy. Of course that flies in the face of every post I have ever written, where I continue to say that I do not know if he is good or bad and will reserve judgement until he is given adequate time.
Well then I suggest if you don’t like MY POINT OF VIEW than don’t respond.
I see this team in and it’s lack of progress completely different than you and that bothers you. TOO BAD.
This front office is part of this team’s problem right now in addition to the ownership. That’s MY OPINION
You don’t like Sandy? Hmmm, I haven’t read that yet. At least you are bringing new thoughts and rational to the site.
This team should have better personal no question and a very significant reason that we don’t is because we’ve forfeited six #1 picks, six #2 picks and failed to take back 3 supplemental picks and a first rounder handed to us on a silver platter since 1999.
We’ve also traded numerous prospects for other short term solutions, gotten far less out of guys than we could have because of rushing them up here, spent numerous high draft choices on college relief pitchers and drafted more one dimensional types for signability reasons.
That’s the bottom line on why we have to rely on other teams washed up retreads to provide the top talent going forward.
When you stop and think about it the two everyday position players who have played well here were both acquired with draft choices similar to the one’s we constantly give away in order to prop up teams that didn’t win and considering how many losing seasons we’ve had over the last 21 years (12) those picks could easily have provided us with some front line starting pitchers, quality arms in the pen and all around top talents in the OF and catcher.
Sitting around every off season to “see whose available” and then robbing top talent from future teams is why we are where we are,
This proven flawed philosophy has not just failed in the short term but it’s the very reason we find ourselves in the situation we do today.
It’s been 13 consecutive years of the same old borrowing from the future and then getting nothing going forward after most of these guys leave which has caused all the talent shortfalls we experience every year.
You can’t make up for 13 years of neglecting the future in 2 or 3 off seasons.
Wake up.
we’ve forfeited six #1 picks, six #2 picks and failed to take back 3 supplemental picks and a first rounder handed to us on a silver platter since 1999″
My god, you don’t stop do you???? how all those amassed draft picks the pirates and royals have gotten throughout the past 10 years work out for them?? can you please stop second guessing!!!??? no moves the mets have made in your opinion was good then..
Alex, why are the Nationals now a good team? Why were the Marlins in position to sign the “final pieces”? Why are the Braves able to sustain success without spending freely in FA? Why were the Phillies finally able to get over the hump? Do you not see any correlation at all?
trs: You know I’ve noticed that you seem to be at the front of the line for wanting all of the bs to stop on these boards, suggesting it will lead to the downfall of the site etc… yet you’ve fallen into a similar trap that I fell into in the past.
Stop responding to them. All that will happen is you’ll have 6 different conversations in the same thread about some ridiculous statement they made geared towards being negative and getting people like you to comment so they can fulfill some daily need to argue. In almost every instance you’ll be correct, but they will not see it that way because they aren’t here to do anything but complain and insult people.
If you look here, you’ve responded to 6 different statements made by 2 people, 2 people almost everybody here knows could find a way tto be negative about anything. You’re just fueling their efforts and legitimizing their tactics by falling victim to them.
Let them post their “i hate sandy” stuff and move on. They are a vocal minority.
My best advice
Advice coming from you would be like taking advice from Kennedy on how to stay out of foreign entanglements. Sorry.
While I do agree that responding to Bay and Metsie at times is pointless, I actually read almost every comment and will continue to respond to the ones that I believe are baseball oriented. I do not necessarily agree with the happy go lucky everything is grand guys either. Just ask Ceetar on TRDM. As for the above comment with Alex. Alex and I go way back and I value many of the things he has to say, much more so than some of the other garbage that is posted.
Maybe trs, but you said today
“I agree and warned Joe about that not long ago. However, I think it is time for us to take blame in this as well. If we would stop talking with the patients then they would not continue to take over the room”
The only difference between you and I is that I said something similar to Joe over a week ago and actually stopped contributing to the problem. I stopped reply to the same people who I believe bring nothing but negativity and a desperate need to argue.
You’ve seen the problem, and are still contributing.
There are 6 posts from BMF and Alex here and you’ve responded to them all and they are all the same exact convo’s that happen day… after day… after day here. Sandy, Trading Beltran, Trading KRod, Draft Picks, Reyes… it never stops. It’s always the same thing.
A post is written, then Sandy is mentioned, then trading players from last year, then losing Reyes to Miami, then focusing on draft picks and the future.
Never stops. Unless people stop replying to it every single time it’s posted by the same exact people.
So you clump me in with them, that’s fine… but if you recognize an issue with the comment section lately, I guarantee you trs you are more at fault than I am so maybe you need to take a step back and read your own words more closely.
Thanks.
LOL, I am now seeing why even the irrationals don’t care for your arrogance. How long have you been here? And yet it took you until recently to know these guys’ motives? Again, I have had this debate with Kingman before. Sometimes it’s just fun to toy with the idiots. As for me realizing what is the downfall of the site? If they post something rational I will continue to respond, I unlike you have no problem with different view points. I do however, try to get the best out of those posters by suggesting to leave the name calling behind and become more open minded. Something that many on here would stand to become.
In other words I can tell that you and I would have similar debates to what you and the irrationals have.
Fair enough trs. You do what you gotta do, but if the problem is the irrationals commenting on here with the same arguments day after day, the other half is the same people responding to them and having the same argument day after day.
Lately you’ve been the biggest offender of that scenario, not me.
I’ve been commenting on here every day for the past week and haven’t had 1 argument or flame fest because I’ve simply avoided those who are looking to accomplish that. How many blogs have been written on here flooded with arguments stemmed from you replying to them?
I don’t need you to see things my way, but don’t preach that this site has issues with the comment board and then contribute to them.
I’m done with this, just trying to help you out but clearly you’re more interested in joining the never ending flame rather than helping fix the problem.
And trs I’m not getting into some big ordeal with you but this is all the proof I need that you’ve fallen into their trap
“I do however, try to get the best out of those posters by suggesting to leave the name calling behind and become more open minded”
“I am now seeing why even the irrationals don’t care for your arrogance.”
“Sometimes it’s just fun to toy with the idiots.”
All I’m saying is stop contributing to the problem and start solving it by just ignoring the people you call “irrational.”
Why is it that other than Sandy there is only one thing that unites the Irrationals? What would that be? You.
Again, if we continue it would not be pretty either.
I know my strengths and weaknesses, it appears you do to and you have chosen to ignore their post. I will now ask that you do the same for me unless it is to discuss baseball.
No Alex some of those picks given up WERE well thought out and worthwhile but they did come with a cost and that cost is to the future and many other one’s didn’t work out at all and then became salary dumps.
Sometimes a well thought out free agent signing regardless of how it actually worked out can be understood as a good effort at the time, other one’s reek of just settling for whoever’s available to try to save a sinking ship.
That combined with trades that never bring talent into the farm and only subtract possible solutions, drafting for need and speed as well as cost and then zooming instead of grooming anyone who looks like they may be able to do something up here just flat out ensures that your always going to be running uphill and that’s what’s happened to us. We ran the whole race uphill while everyone else was running on flat ground or downhill and in years that can only be described as among our best got nipped at the wire. Three times since 1998, along with 3 post seasons……the only 3 post seasons in over 20 years to go along with 12 losing one’s.
You say you want to win but we’re about to replace Philly with Washington and face an improved for a time Miami and a primed for decade of serious WC/pennant contention out of Atlanta who have all fueled their resurgence with young players to date.
Hanson, Beachy, Jurjens, Minor, Teheran, Delgado, Vizcaino, Kimbrell, Venters, Prado, McCann, Heyward, Freeman, Pastornicky for Atlanta.
Zimmerman, Zimmerman, Storen, Strausberg, Morse, Harper, Gio, Rosario, Flores, Renden for Washington.
Are the guys we’re going up hill against in the next 6-10 years.
Rollins, Hamels, Utley, Howard, Ruiz, Werth, Victorinno were the young guys that closed out our last run and they had MANY good prospects they traded for Lee, Halliday, Oswalt, Blanton, Pence and their farm is STILL considered equal to ours.
In fact the things that didn’t work out well for Washington, Atlanta and Philly are the same things that didn’t work out well for us. The only difference is they did a hell of a lot less of it than we did, type A’s like Lowe, Werth (Wash), Ibanez .
Miami can get into contention quickly but with a poor farm and no solid core of 5 or 6 guys and a short shelf life for Buherle Bell and Zambranno and only two top talents in their prime in Johnson and Stanton won’t be in it for the long run. Their more or less similar to us in 2006.
The fact is if you want to win, and I’m sure you do every single young player in our division could have been drafted or signed by us except for Strausberg, Harper, Renden, Storen, R. Zimmerman, Minor, Heyward and Utley. Every single one. Many times we gave up a #1 or #2 and either got nothing or it was very short lived while the rest of the NL East picking in our spot or later got guys like McCann, Stanton, Jordan Zimmerman, Freeman, other times we drafted poorly or for the wrong reasons.
Even when guys played well over all there is a cost attatched. Philly got Halliday in part from Toronto and Blanton in part from Oakland with two guys selected for losing Wagner (Drabek and Cardonis)
The bottom line is none of these teams got where they got by just focusing on the upcoming season every year, in fact they all got better play overall from letting guys go in free agency than in signing them.
T Agee, if only wes welker would’ve caught that ball maybe there would’ve have been a parade in NY today… you know what that is?? a big IF and second guessing.. for every zimmerman there’s 1000 todd van poppels… please, stop this, you’re making a fool of yourself.. seriously.. i’ve given you in many many occasions that draft were zimmerman and mccann were drafted, it wasn’t only US who passed them, many other teams did.. what, you’re gonna fault phillips for passing on pujols as well??? again, BA don’t see the will and dedication when crunching their little numbers to describe a prospect. they say, high ceiling… 5 tool players etc.. stop this dream of having a team full of home grown and all of them be good at the same time.. it’s not happening!!!!!!
“T Agee, if only wes welker would’ve caught that ball maybe there would’ve have been a parade in NY today”
He’s not talking about one bad play or a single isolated mistake. He’s talking about repeated systematic failures. An inability to to do the right thing over and over.
“a big IF and second guessing.. for every zimmerman there’s 1000 todd van poppels”
Which is why you do your due diligence and develop a deep system.
“i’ve given you in many many occasions that draft were zimmerman and mccann were drafted, it wasn’t only US who passed them, many other teams did.. what, you’re gonna fault phillips for passing on pujols as well???”
Again, missing the point. It is not that they missed on any of them, the Mets missed on ALL of them. How, when our division rivals were doing the leg work and building their farm systems, our team was looking to cut the biggest check to “compete” with a team in the other league. Who ended up better for it?
“BA don’t see the will and dedication when crunching their little numbers to describe a prospect. they say, high ceiling… 5 tool players etc”
Actually, make up is a big part of scouting. BA writers get most of their info from team scouts and coaches. As has been explained to you many many times, stats are not a big part of amateur scouting.
“stop this dream of having a team full of home grown and all of them be good at the same time.. it’s not happening!!!!!!”
But would it be so bad if it did? Would it be that much worse than a bunch of high priced free agents playing out their contracts? I agree it isn’t very plausible, but it would be pretty damn cool if they could pull it off.
Do you understand why a strong farm is preferable to looking at the free agent market?
I don’t think he has a dream of them all being home grown. However, you have to have that homegrown foundation and have them ready before you can go out and add the pieces through FA. In other words FA put you over the top not take you to the top.
Look at the Phillies, what is their core? Halladay and Lee are great (even though you can count that they needed a good farm system to get Halladay and even Lee at one point). However they made their push with Rollins, Utley and Howard and once they were ready were able to add the missing pieces.
Atlanta? They continually pump out their own great players and use them to either obtain others or use cash to re-sign their own.
The Nationals? They added Werth and now Edwin Jackson… Are those two signings what makes them contenders?
The Marlins? Why do you think they were able to finally spend big? Obviously the stadium has a lot to do with it but also because that young talent that they developed they believe is either ready or close to ready. What is their core? Reyes is not coming in as the guy that brings them to the top, if they are going to win this year it might be because he put them over but saying it’s only due to Reyes discounts their young core.
Alex I don’t fault anyone for missing until the 9th round on Pujols. Everyone was wrong. My point is more toward the bottom of the first round (“where it makes sense to give away your #1 because no prospects ever hit big from that spot.) Tell that to Mike Trout, Jacoby Ellsbury, Matt Garza, Josh Bard, Ian Kennedy, JP Arenciba, Rick Porcello.
The supplemental round like Clay Buckholtz, Jed Lawrie, Joba, Travis d’Anaurd, Brett Cecil and Tommy Hunter.
The 2nd round like Yuniel Escobar, Trevor Cahill, Mike Stanton, Freddie Freeman, Austin Romaine and Jordan Zimmerman.
I’m not saying it NEVER makes sense to sign a type A but on average once a year? Give me a break. Obviously we wouldn’t have drafted all of these guys but we would have had a shot at them or similarly regarded prospects. Could we have busted on everyone? That’s possible as well, especially drafting the cheapest guys and the ones who could potentially be zoomed up here with one above average tool but we could easily hit on two, three, four or even five guys and they wouldn’t have been here for just 3 years or so, they would have been long term solutions filling “holes” for 6, 8, 10 years at a time in their prime.
They could have been very attractive to Toronto or Cleveland when it came time to talk about Halliday or Lee. Even the one’s that wind up busting.
The reason I bring up McCann is that Atlanta even drafting after us (as they almost always do) selected him and we didn’t even have a chance because we gave our 2nd round pick to Chicago (and no it doesn’t matter that they didn’t pick him) for a year and a half of David Weathers who was turned into yet another late season salary dump.
When people complain and say “you can both build to compete now and later at the same time.” I say which category does this move fit into. How long will a 40 year old reasonably be expected to play the OF for you and what are the chances he actually stays on the field?
The fact is good players who can help you within a year (by trading) or for many years are available in the first, supplemental and 2nd rounds and we’re not getting many of them but the teams we compete against are, and their getting lots of them and that’s why we’re shorthanded every year.
It’s easy to lose hope right now. Nothing is on the forefront that is going to give us a good winning season. You know what though? That’s ok! The fact that the boys are already in PSL working out tells us that baseball is right around the corner. Regardless if they win 105 or 35, the Mets will be taking the field 162 regular season games this year and I will be watching faithfully here in Missouri. I feel that if we are who we are, Mets fans, than we just need to sit back and enjoy the game that we love and the team that we love. Even the boys in the 60′s had a loyal fan base. There is just so much negativity in the air, there has been the entire off season. If anyone out there wants to have it easy then go to the Bronx! I always tell people that it’s too easy to be a Yankee fan. If our club is a train wreck that’s fine, hopefully one day it will all get figured out. Until then, I’m gonna sit back and watch the bright Orange and Blue play the game that I love!
Nice job. I agree it stinks to be in the position we are in but I will never dread Mets baseball. I guess it’s a byproduct of all those terrible years in the 90′s when there really was no hope.
Thanks! It’s interesting that you mention the 90′s because I was going to mention that era in my post. There was no hope, but we ended up prevailing at the end of the decade! You know, I have gotten to know Ryan Thompson pretty well over the last couple years and I had the opportunity to ask him why they sucked so bad back then! He told me that they never dang slept! He said it was a party every day, every night! I guess the effects from the 80′s really took a toll on them especially with the crafty veterans trying to keep the tradition alive!
Speaking of the Bronx….
Can you imagine if the GMs were reversed right now? The media would be having a field day with the Mets right about now.
Can’t come soon enough!
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LET’S GO BUFFALO.. ERR, METS!!!!!!! (roll eyes) .. sorry, i am more excited to see what familia, harvey, lagares, reese, gorski, vaughn do rather than the 25 guys in the major league roster.. i like ike, but he’s just not that exciting player you wanna go to the ballpark to see.. i hope him and duda become 30 hr’s threat for years to come.. i hope i am wrong about tejada struggling mightly in SS trying to replace the best player in franchise history, i hope wright doesn’t struggle thinking he has to carry this team, we all know and saw (310 10 72) what happened in 2009 when it was up to him to carry the load.. niese, i think this is his make/break year, he needs to do better.. gee, i like him, can be good #3 for us this year, and ummmm… that’s it…
Hmmm, Davis not a guy you go to the park to see? I can disagree with that. If he keeps playing like he did at the beginning of last year you will get your wish and Dwright will certainly no longer be the face of the franchise.
As for “trying to replace the best player in franchise history”… are you actually serious with that comment or just trying to bait again? Perhaps they are one in the same.
Ya, you’ve often revealed yourself to be more of a Jeter guy.
Last place prediction? Yeah probably…
But bad NY Met baseball is infinitely better than no NY Met baseball.
I’m going into this season with no expectations at all. Just going to enjoy seeing how things unfold, how the young’uns are progressing, how the prospects on the farm are coming along.
who would’ve thunk it, a few years back everyone was excited because going in the team had a chance, at least a punchers’ chance, now we have no expectations at all.. and we’re hoping the players do good so they can then be traded for prospects.. how the mighty have fallen…. it’s a shame what we true fans have to endure.. from winning baseball games to save money and draft picks..
It is a shame and ultimately where we differ is in why that is the case. It is a shame because that group did not get it done and the all in approach left the Mets broken with out a leg to stand on. It really doesn’t matter at this point however who’s fault it is. What we need to come to the understanding of is that for the short and most likely medium range future Sandy will be the GM of the Wilpon owned Mets. So lets look at the bright sides a little instead of focusing on the same negatives of the situation over and over. There are a lot of players to look forward to and the hopeful rebounds of some former AS’s. Wouldn’t it be nice as a fanbase we got behind our team instead of stepping on them?
It flat out blows. Only thing that I disagree with is the need to spin players for picks. If these kids step up I want them to stay, and I am sure most people do as well. Sure if there is a trade to be had that improves the team go for it but not for just the sake of picks. I think the only player with value that can be spun for long term changes is Wright, but there are probably equally good pro’s and con’s for that kind of move that make it a crap shoot on whether it’s the right decision.
3B is a position many teams have both quality and quantity at in the higher levels of the farm system. Many teams even have two or three 3B in their top 10.
That makes it more difficult to find a market for Wright.
hey,posters in this very site have said the only reason they like the francisco signing is because if he does good he then can be traded for more prospects.. i am just stating how sad to even make a comment like that is.. i wanna win.. why waved the white flag AGAIN if we’re in the middle of a pennant race.. last year we were 6.5 games out and we waved it.. i want this team to do good, but if the FO don’t show support how are the players and fans supposed to feel?
That trade sentiment with Francisco is a attempt to find any kind of silver lining. Even if we did trade him, there would not be much to come back. He was signed purely because of his price point and the willingness to only except a 2 year deal.
As for a pennant race, there was no race dude. On 07/15 the Mets were 12 games out of first, 8.5 out of the wild card and behind 5 other teams. Beltran was traded on 07/28 and KROD on 07/13. The KROD trade had to be done, the majority of fans knew this. There was even the “Magic Number” for his option. The FO made decisions based on a financial mandate and they made a tough decision and spun Beltran for something. If anything people should be made that they didn’t trade Reyes and get more tangible back.
Reyes got hurt in July,killing any chance of trading him.
Hmmm, they were 8.5 games behind the Braves when they traded Krod, 12 behind the Phillies, with 6 teams ahead of us in the WC standings.
When they traded Beltran they were 7.5 games behind the Braves, 13.5 games behind the Phillies with 4 teams ahead of them in the standings.
So was it worth keeping Beltran for basically no shot in hell and then having him walk away free and clear at the end of the year?
We were never in a pennant race last year. On July 4th we were over .500 by 1 game with three teams ahead of us in the WC and two more half a game behind us and 6.5 games to make up to tie for the WC with our ace on the shelf, Davis iffy about being back and a very suspect rotation with very little in AAA.
With Beltran leaving behind nothing at the end of the year and K-Rod on the payroll for 17.5 M there really was no choice but to make those trades or we would have been WORSE this year and going forward.
The only way we could have won, not just come close but actually won the WC would have been to make a couple of trades like Cleveland did. Familia or Harvey say for Ubaldo, kept Beltran (and not get Wheeler) and significantly impact our chances for success in the future,
None of those moves would have gotten Davis healthy or prevented Reyes and Murphy from getting hurt either so both at the time and more importantly for the future it was best to look beyond just this year for once.
You mean the opposite of the Kazmir trade ?
If anything it appears they learned from their mistake on that one.
My only bright spot for that Kazmir trade is I got to see Zambrano running off the mound in tears clutching his arm never to be see again.
And how did Ubaldo turn out last year. My feeling is the Rockies saw something they didn’t like.
Very possible, especially with now trading for Guthrie.
*** Alex, fair warning. Jessep is not a racist and you would be best served by eliminating any form of that word from your vocabulary on this site.
Anybody going to Spring Training? I was looking into one of those weekend packages on the Mets website and was wondering if they are worth it.