13
2012
Yankees Land RHP Michael Pineda From Mariners For Montero
An article by Hojo's Mojo
The New York Yankees have acquired young right-hander Michael Pineda from the Seattle Mariners for top hitting prospect Jesus Montero.
The trade was first reported by CBS Sports. The Mariners also received Yankees right-hander Hector Noesi in the deal.
Pineda, who turns 23 next week, is a potentially dominant starter who struck out 173 batters in 171 innings for Seattle last season. He won six of his first 10 starts and as late as May 21 had a 2.16 ERA. He’s 6-7 and 260 pounds, and features a slider famously described by the late Mariners broadcaster Dave Niehaus as “diabolical.”
Pineda eventually faded a bit in his rookie season, but finished 9-10 with a 3.74 ERA, very respectable numbers for a pitcher in his first exposure to major league hitters.
Montero, the long hyped Yankees catching prospect, made his debut at the tail end of the 2011 season, hitting .328 in 61 regular season at-bats before making the postseason roster.
Pineda will form a lethal 1-2 punch with C.C. Sabathia for years to come. Christmas came later this year for Yankees fans, but it did come.
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And Kuroda too. nice day for the yanks.
I wonder if Seattle has concerns over Pineda’s longevity?
If Seattle has something (what they hope) in Taijuan Walker and Danny Hultzen then it works out for them in my view (assuming Montero hits his ceiling)
Did you have the same longevity concerns for Wheeler when the Giants dumped him for a rental with bad knees? At least the M’s got a stud hitting prospect who looked the part during his callup.
Not the worst point in the world Brian. However, I’ve said that I won’t be surprised if Wheeler doesn’t hit the so called #1 ceiling.
But Pineda did have elbow issues 2 years ago, and I’m not saying *I* am doubting his future as a starter I’m just wondering if Seattle believes they have 2 guys coming up who can make up for the loss of Pineda while adding a potentially big bat?
I also don’t think SFG made a good trade for Beltran. I think both NYY and SEA did well here (IF Sea believes their 2 young SPs are worth it)
So with Pineda and Kuroda is the next shoe to drop a trade involving maybe Burnett or Hamels?
Sorry I mean Hughes.
Heyman said they might try to trade Hughes or eat half the salary of Burnett, I remember hearing a while back that the Mets were talking about the idea of Burnett
bay for burnett?
Yanks have no need for Bay.
Seattle must feel that Hultzen is on the fast track to give Pineda away already.Jack Z said he envisions a rotation of Felix,Pineda and Hultzen for years to come just a few months ago.Great trade for the Yanks.
All I can say is we have Ronny Cedeno! Wooooooo Hooooooooooo!
Would any of you have traded Harvey or Wheeler for Montero?
I wouldn’t, the talk about Montero is his lack of ability to play Catcher very well
Neither would I.
Not saying the Josh Thole will prove to be an every day catcher but since we do have him I would not have traded Harvey for Montero. Pitching is our sore spot more than the situation we have at back stop.
But this looks like a trade that could really help both clubs, however, I think Seattle will benefit more with Montero than the Yankees with Penada probably because the Mariners are in need of more help.
The Yankees will benefit more, not the Mariners. This move will help the Yankees in their quest for the playoffs this year and years to come possibly.
Not Montero of Seattle, sure they need help but they’re not beating out Tex or Angels. And don’t tell me about next year cuz we will deal with that when it comes.
again winning has lost it’s importance around here and this place is upside down prospect crazy. It’s not “en vogue” to talk about who’s gonna win around this place anymore.
Much better move for Yanks than the Mariners
Agreed, Mariners will be just as bad with Montero, Yanks got a #2 starter for next 6 years.
you seem to be contradicting yourself now.
You have been all over Sandy for not making moves to try and win a few more games, even through it won’t get them to the WS.
But now you are saying there is no point for the Mariners to make a trade to improve because they aren’t going to make the playoffs this year anyway.
Obviously jessup wouldn’t have trade for Mike piazza and hated hgim for his lousy work behind the plate. The alderson gang comes thru no matter what. Afterall next they will tell us how Thole and Nickeas are the fiuture, especially Thole whose catching skills truly suck. But its ok, since sandy didn’t replace him.
Uhh I don’t even understand why you’re telling me I hated the Piazza deal?
I didn’t realize I thought Thole and Nickeas were the future behind the plate. I’ll have to write that down.
Did you just compare Montero to Piazza?
Yes he compared their defense. And its a fair comparison.
now we get to see how overrated Montero has been. most of these yankee studs usually come up short when traded.
I can tell you Bobby Valentine doesn’t think Montero is overrated. They were both guests of ours at an event I had for work, and V had great things to say about Montero’s future. (this was pre- red sox)
They were guests and you didnt think they’d say niceties about each other. You must be naive in addition to being an instigator who insults anyone who disagrees with you.
So your opinion on a Mets blog when you probably have barely seen Montero play is more valid than Bobby Valentine’s at a reception because they were guests?
I’ll take Bobby V’s views on players half-loaded over yours any day
That’s the sign of a good GM. Knows how to talk up his garbage and trade them for studs. Unlike the Mets, who talk up their garbage then give them a cup of coffee in the show, they fail and get released for nothing.
I don’t know…….Montero looks like a beast. I saw him a lot in AA and he can legit rake.
It’s amazing now,
Brian Cashman makes a big splash in landing a young stud to help his team remain a dominant force in the AL and all some of these guys now is gush over the prospects instead.
It’s a different world around here now and it’s dumber with their priorities twisted. It really stinks ow and has taken a turn for the worse.
Who’s gushing? The fact both teams made a good move is gushing over a prospect? Pineda has only 1 year in the league right? He’s not exactly a proven veteran is he?
As said above… Seattle has 2 young SP guys they expect to make an impact. If they are right, then Pineda was expendable to have a young power hitting C that they think highly of. No?
If Pineda continues to progress, nice job by NYY because it works for them. If Montero progresses and their 2 young top SPs progress… then it worked for them also
I’m more interested in winning and how this helps the Yankees in the AL East standings – not how the rest of them develop
that’s good. Great for you. Unfortunately in the real world, not everybody is in a position to go balls to the wall and throw everything out there to try and win now.
Seattle has 2 powerhouse teams at the top of their division, they are not anywhere near those 2 teams… so they need a plan. You can’t just sit around and say “hey we’re trying.” you need a plan. Not everybody can win 90+ games, and pretending you’re a 90+ win team when you’re not is more dangerous.
Besides, if ONE of the Mariners top pitching prospects is big league ready this year and so is Montero… then why is that such a bad thing for Seattle to do? What’s harder to get in MLB these days? A quality starting pitcher or an offensive C?
Good move by Cashman it reinforces the Yankees for their pennant drive.
At first I thought Cashman was thinking in terms of Pineda not helping the Yankees make the playoffs as it was helping them once they get into it. But then I realized this coming season could be different for if Tampa Bay takes the division (I think the BoSox are on the way down) there is no guarantee the Yankees will have a better record than whoever finishes second in the west, Texas or California (hate that “LAAOA” designation). With two wildcards winning the division becomes even more imperative.
But like most, I’m more concerned about the Mets than I am the team residing in my own borough.
that may be so and i’m sure everybody here including myself would have that same sentiment although we have plenty of people here who talk a lot about the Braves and A’s so maybe you should be telling that to them and not me.
Since the fact that I note the trade is benefits the Yanks more than the Mariners because it helps the Yanks for the postseason and future possible post seasons and NOT the Mariners so much at the moment – you’re taking exception to that and getting defensive by saying well i care more about the Mets than the Yanks as if we don’t.
What I do care about talking about trying to win but when people insist that the development of prospects is more important about what it takes to win – I take exception to that.
that should read “talking about the development of prospects”
Bayonne,
My comment about being more concerned about the Mets was meant only as a good natured afterthought for all of us and I apologize if you took it offense to it personally.
my bad Joey D, I thought you were someone else
Yet another short-sighted, broad brush stroke by Bayonne. Par for the course.
Talk about being brain dead…. xtreemicon writes the same hostile manure any time anybody uses their own brain and their own thoughts. Life must be so simple being lord sandy’s puppet.\ xtreemicon is actually hoping we do as well with our prospects as the Pittsburgh Pirates have done. That way he can write the same useless drivel for decades. Oh yes, life is good when you can’t think for yourself.
Quite the opposite. I can think for myself and don’t follow the one-dimensional casual baseball fans like you and Bayonne who only recognize one name on the list and think the team that got him “wins.” You seem to be so good at telling other people what they think, but haven’t ever uttered one word of baseball analysis yourself. At what point do you put your money where your mouth is?
This coming from a guy who worships the guy that’s most responsible for the mess we’re in. He still wacks off to Minaya’s picture and all he does is follow around you,Donal and Jessep and never adds anything to a discussion.
So if you were the Mets you’d take Montero over Pineda?
If the Mets:
-Were in the AL where Montero could DH and make an impact on days he doesn’t C
-Had 2 young SP’s that they believe can be as good if not better than Pineda and be up within a year
-Have no young C and Miguel Olivo and Josh Bard are currently clogging the depth chart
-Had 2 powerhouses at the top of the division, both with aging rosters
Yes. I would.
You are looking at this as “Seattle doesn’t want to win.” But you’re ignoring Seattle’s situation and the fact they have 2 guys they think are very very good. Will they be? Only time will tell… but you are one of the guys who loves scouting and old school thought processes… well that is what they are doing. Their scouts love their 2 young SPs. So that makes Pineda expendable if they want a young catcher.
I’m not saying its a bad trade by either team. I think both teams got what they wanted, which generally means it was a good deal right?
How they all develop has a direct correlation to teams staying on top for years to come. I’m sure you understand that, right?
That ‘all in’ type of mentality gets you nowhere.
A move that works out for both teams in the end. Yankees have enough bats where they saw Montero as expendable. The Mariners now have Smoak, Ackley and Montero as a young, solid middle of the order.
Solid trade for both teams although I like the M’s side better.
For the simple fact that the bat is always a safer bet then a pitcher health wise (see Johans Shoulder)
Montero is not, and never will be, a catcher. He’s a DH or 1B. What he is however is a middle of the order bat.
Yanks fill a need with the pitcher. M’s get a potential MONSTER bat. Power and Average.
Mets don’t have a player in the system as good as either one of these players.
just because you traded a good player doesn’t mean it was a bad move. You have to give value to get value (unless you can buy it in salary dumps).
this was a classic case of 2 teams doing a need for need from a strength deal.
If you have an excess in one area, trade it for something you are lacking. Simple, classic baseball move.
And teams really do look at multi-year plans. It is not always all about the next year. If you think you have a real shot and a small window, and can identify the 1 piece to put you over the top, then go “all in” . But other than that, teams balance competing in the current season vs. developing a better team in the years to come.
Excellent move by the Yanks to improve their rotation which is their primary weakness. Ours is just mired in its own mediocrity without hope of improvement.