Comments on: Workplace Confidential: “We’ve Become The Oakland A’s”

By: Nester

Nester — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:25:02 +0000

Do you even have a side or do you just like to complain? I’ve seen you call out one person for being optimistic and another for saying to temper your expectations in the space of about 12 hours. What’s your deal exactly?

By: srt

srt — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:18:48 +0000

That and the continual harping on the myriad of reasons that lead us to be in this Situation to begin with.

Reality is it wasn’t just bad decision that has us here. It was Madoff and poor play and injuries and thin farm system and down revenues and……all should get the picture.

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:16:58 +0000

Funnily enough, BA gets a lot of its information from scouts and farm personnel of the teams.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:15:21 +0000

Sorry, I know it’s undeniably absurd, but your comment just made me think of Alderson with an 8-pack and spiked hair.

By: SaltyGary

SaltyGary — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:13:32 +0000

When people continue to be delusional about the “Situation” it makes it impossible to discuss what’s appropriate.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:13:04 +0000

Pick a side and stick to it.

“On the inside, the employess (be they players or staff) see the current situation for what it is. And that is an organization that is broke and unable to operate to the potential of the market it operates within.”

“Apologists can not accept that and are willing to be cellar dwellers because they like it that way.”

Aren’t the “apologists” called that because they’ve been the only ones saying that there’s just no money to buy any FAs and it’s the people who call them that that are mad the Mets aren’t spending money they don’t have?

You seem to understand there’s no money to operate right now. I mean you said so in your post, so you’re an “apologist,” apparently.

By: trs86

trs86 — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:04:22 +0000

Well if that were true then there would be hundreds of MLB scouts who are out of a job. What would be the point, BA takes care of it for them.

By: trs86

trs86 — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 15:00:45 +0000

This was more of a well duh. Of course the Mets are in shambles and are broke. Is anyone really debating that? What we all debate is if they are taking steps to fix the problem. What is viewed as saber, cheap, idiotic to one is viewed as maximizing resources, finally having financial wherewithal and appropriate for the situation.

By: METS62FAN

METS62FAN — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:46:56 +0000

IN A WAY THEY’RE ACTIONS ARE MORE REMINISCIENT OF CHARLIE FINLEY’S A’s THAN BILLY BEANE’S AS I DON’T DISCERN TOO MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHARLIE’S ACTIONS TO DISMEMBER HIS TEAM FOR COST CUTTING MEASURES THAN FRED’S CURRENT ACTIONS OR LACK THEREOF. CHARLIE’S WERE INTERPRETED AS “AGAINST THE BEST INTERESTS OF BASEBALL” BY THEN COMMISSIONER BOWIE KUHN; PRESENT COMMISSIONER BUD SELIG IS SILENT OR IS IT COMPLICIT AS A DEBTOR HOLDING A $40M NOTE MAKING HIM A DIRECT BENEFICIARY OF THIS RECONSTRUCTION TO AN 80M PAYROLL, 2 ME A PURE “CONFLICT OF INTEREST” & AS SUCH, SELIG SHOULD BE FORCED TO HALT THE DISMANTLING UNDER THE GUIDELINES SET BY HIS PREDECESSOR. IF THE OVERALL INTERESTS OF BASEBALL COULD BE DAMAGED BY THE ACTIONS OF A VAGABON FRANCHISE(PHL,KC,OAK) THAN SIMILAR BEHAVIOR BY ONE ENSCONCED IN THE BASEBALL”HEARTLAND” IS DOUBLY DAMAGING!

THIS, MY FRIENDS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, THIS IS UNMITIGATED DUPLICITY BESET UPON THE HOTTEST MLB MARKETPLACE IN EXISTANCE.

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:19:16 +0000

Right. It’s not BA provding MLB teams with insight on players, it’s the other way around

And to take it 1 step further to actually say or think out loud that BA influences who a team DRAFTS like Alex did is so ridiculous

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:16:14 +0000

haha right? BA getting credit for how teams draft is pretty funny.

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 14:02:08 +0000

I’m starting to notice a trend where certain folks just say whatever they want, then when they get questioned… they duck into a corner. This comment by you Alex was easily the most uninformed bias thing you’ve said with regard to Baseball America.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:38:41 +0000

Omar, you’re wrong… the pirates hope that the prospects that BA rank very high on their list became good and produce, is not the pirates fault that they’ve been burned time after time by the BA people.. they draft a player based on “high ceiling” and how good is ranked by BA, too bad they’d never get an apolgy from BA on their ranking…
sandy is the worst GM in the history of the mets.. a guy who will never win anything, hell, not even will finish with a 500 record as the GM in charge, pathetic…

By: theonlymaskman

theonlymaskman — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:38:06 +0000

Very interesting how all the Apologists showed up quickly to pan this article. You can criticize this article all you wish, buit it is actually very informative because it is indicative of the view from the inside of the organization. On the inside, the employess (be they players or staff) see the current situation for what it is. And that is an organization that is broke and unable to operate to the potential of the market it operates within. Ownership is clinging to the team that it can longer afford. Mgmt has no respect for anyone in the organization and is aloof and self-centered. The organization is a alughingstock and that is no news to real Mets fans. Apologists can not accept that and are willing to be cellar dwellers because they like it that way. They believe the genius is leading us to the Promised Land. He is in fact leading us to destruction in a vain attempt to protect the position of the owner. It is a very sad situation all created by greed and dishonesty. The quickest solution to this is for new owners to arrive on the scene. The departure of Randy Niemann confirms this view of the inner workings of the Mets franchise. Without new owners, the light of day will not arrive until 2020; until then the vision will be clouded.

By: Ghost of omar

Ghost of omar — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:35:13 +0000

Actually alex, the Pirate front office lies also. they tell the fanbase the exact same BS alderson is spewing; that the next wave of prospects will turn the team around and the next stars will be kept. Alderson just steals their lies… for an ivy league genious you’d think he could make up new lies wouldn’t you..

By: Ghost of omar

Ghost of omar — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:32:57 +0000

Of corse donal says no real insight. anything critical of his lordhip and the lords masters has no insight, just like all of your pathetic posts donal.

By: jessep

jessep — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 12:50:15 +0000

Alex: So you’re saying you think the Pirates (and the Mets) DRAFT players based on their Baseball America rank?

“not the pirates fault that they’ve been burned time after time by the BA people.. they draft a player based on “high ceiling” and how good is ranked by BA, too bad they’d never get an apolgy from BA on their ranking…”

Are you totally clueless on what amateur scouting is and what Baseball America is? Baseball America doesn’t advise MLB teams on who to draft. Baseball America doesn’t owe any MLB team an “apology” for ranking a player a certain way. I mean are you absolutely lost right now?

By: Tommy2cat

Tommy2cat — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 05:42:35 +0000

Since Nelson Doubleday departed the Mets front office, it has been characterized by financial mismanagement off the field and impatience on the field. For me, as a fan, things began not to make sense when Bonilla was offered that insane deferment of the 5.9m owed to him so that he could received $29m in one-year increments in 2011. That arrangement alone creates something of an inference that I’d rather leave alone.

The part that rankles me, as a fan, is the absolute impatience – to a level that approaches immaturity – in the FO’s reckless desire to field a collection of stars without any notion that it must first have a core group of young, strong prospects from within the organization.

Ii know that Fred Wilpon wanted to succeed as owner of the Mets. But, I think his methods were distorted and disproportionate – in all likelihood by all of the money he was raking in from the Madoff investment. Fred Wilpon called his attachment to the Mets “an emotional investment”. Well, sometimes the heart has reasons that reason itself does not know, such as greed.

Feels like Fred got wacked in the caboose by the karma train, sadly, to the detriment of Met fans everywhere.

By: TJ

TJ — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 23:38:38 +0000

Couldn’t agree more with whoever wrote that piece. Daddy, junior and Katz have made a ‘laughingstock’ out of mine and every other Mets fan’s team. In my opinion the sooner this trio is gone the better, because I believe only then will this team have any hope of getting any better.
If this suit lingers on and on and the owners keep trying to hang on by their finger nails and the front office keeps ‘adjusting’ the payroll how long will we, the fans, have to wait before Mets are not the ‘laughingstock’ of baseball?… 2012?… 2013?… 2014… 2015?
At least once Daddy, junior and Katz finally declare the Mets a ‘small market team’ in the biggest sports market in this country at least the ticket prices at ‘Ponzifield’ could be very affordable… if anyone by then will care…

By: Metsr1

Metsr1 — Mon, 09 Jan 2012 18:21:15 +0000

Do you think for one minute that the Mets are bringing in the fences to make Wright and Bay smile. They are hoping that the two pound homers simply to increase their trade value. As much as this bugs me, I believe Wright’s days are numbered. Bay on the other would require the Wilponzi’s to eat some money, so he may be around awhile.