Will You Boo or Cheer Jose Reyes?

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• Bob L January 22, 2012 at 11:15 am

  Let it be. It’s done. i was not in favor of signing him to a LT deal, given our pitching needs and his quirky hamstrings, which will not improve as he slips into his 30s. And, given our budget constraints. i would’ve used those $$$’s to either get CJ Wilson or and/engineer a trade for Matt Garza–a guy i think is very underrated.
  But we’re in full rebuilding mode, so a sharp upgrade of the rotation is/was a pipe dream.
  Jose Reyes is an exciting player and was a great Met. I’ll cheer him once, and i wish him well. After that, he’s on the other team.
  • theonlymaskman January 23, 2012 at 8:12 am

    We’re not in full rebuilding mode, we’re in full downsizing mode. There’s a huge difference as it will take years to begin the rebuilding under this ownership.
    • Rich S January 24, 2012 at 11:14 am

      I’m not sure what you mean that they are downsizing, not rebuilding. If you are implying the Mets are purging salary purely bc of financial issues; I greatly disagree. Given the Mets performance over the last 5 years, even if it wasnt for Madoff and financial issues, the Mets would be making the same moves.

      Just look at the facts, in 2006 the Mets won 94 games and were 1 game from World Series; they had a $96m payroll. Over the next 3 years they added players and signed their players to extension to increase the payroll to $141m with only 74 wins. It is obvious the path taken was not the right one. So the approach is the same as other teams are following and have been successful. Mets will have the same approximate payroll as 6 of 8 playoff teams. And the 2 that had significantly higher payroll was bounced in first round.

      It is performance, not payroll
      (Performance / Opportunity) = the level of success

      Previously Mets used the formula of the 80′s and early 90′s Yankees
      (‘Perceived Talent’ / Opportunity = level of success

      I like the new Met approach; I expect them to be exciting this year and have young talent start to surface next year; much like the Phillies of 2006.
  • Alan January 23, 2012 at 9:56 am

    Bob….you were right on target with your opinions about Jose!
• srt January 22, 2012 at 11:16 am

  I’ve never seen Jose in glasses….

  Saw the poll on metsblog on this question. It’s currently running 1/3 of the fan base who would boo Reyes at Citi field.

  I won’t be at that game but if I were, I wouldn’t be booing. Not unless Reyes pulled some boneheaded play ala ARod yelling ‘I got it’ as he headed to 3rd to confuse the opposition trying to catch a pop up.
  • any January 22, 2012 at 1:27 pm

    If he did that, it would be a reason to cheer him. remember which team he is on now!
• NJstuckinTX January 22, 2012 at 11:53 am

  The dude needs a haircut something fierce.
• jdon January 22, 2012 at 11:59 am

  Neither. I do not boo. And I refuse to cheer for an opponent.
• Lisa P. January 22, 2012 at 12:07 pm

  I will cheer him for his first at-bat and then move on. He gave me many years of enjoyable baseball. I dont know when and if we’ll ever see another one like him. He will be missed.
• L.J. Phipps January 22, 2012 at 12:09 pm

  Would not boo him, but like others have said, your the enemy now!
• jessep January 22, 2012 at 1:13 pm

  He got plenty of cheers from me. Now, he plays for a division rival
• gGold January 22, 2012 at 12:34 pm

  I would stand up and cheer as loud as I can. He single handedly made the Mets exciting for the last five or six years and was everyones favorite player throughout. Reyes deserves our respect for when he goes to the plate to lead off the game. You are not cheering for the enemy, just showing your respect for him.
• Mr North Jersey January 22, 2012 at 12:37 pm

  I would stand up and cheer him when he came to the plate in the 1st inning then walk out the stadium. (kidding)
• Metsfanwanda January 22, 2012 at 12:46 pm

  I will definitely boo him. I already purchased my ticket. I didn’t like him when he was hear, but I have a rule of not booing anyone on my team. But now that he plays for the enemy, oh yeah, I will boo him.
• piazza62 January 22, 2012 at 1:18 pm

  I’ve never been to a game against the Marlins, and I doubt I will now. It depends on how the Mets are playing this season – if they’re doing well and I’m getting into it, I’ll probably boo him just as a player for a division rival. Otherwise, I’d probably cheer the first time, boo every other time afterwards.
• Phil Groh January 22, 2012 at 1:22 pm

  CHEER! It’s the sportsman like thing to do, like when we cheered for Piazza after hitting home runs against us as an Oakland Athletic!
  • Donal January 23, 2012 at 9:36 am

    That was the Padres. I was at that game. We gave Piazza a standing ovation after the first home run, but got a little nervous after the second one. “OK, Pedro, we get it. You are buddies. Settle down now.:

    He did get a good reception when brought out the line up card for the as when they were in town for an interleague series.
  • Rich S January 24, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Piazza is a different scenario for me.

    A) because he helped the Mets win; Jose was a great player, but you can never say we won anything because of him. He contributes little in 2006 and all but disappeared at the tail end of 2007 and 2008

    B) Jose’s comment that the Mets didn’t want him really rubs me the wrong way. I almost never boo (out loud), but I will be booing in my head.I may be wrong, but my opinion Jose took shots at the Mets to cover up that he just wanted the biggest contract – not that there is anything wrong with it, but be honest. I see Jose as a son-in-law that I loved like a son for 10 years, if the divorce is OK, I will still like him, if he’s a jerk, then I wont. Jose (to me) falls in the latter.
• any January 22, 2012 at 1:25 pm

  considering there is no chance I will be going to a game on 4/24, neither!

  But if I was there, I wouldn’t boo him but I certainly would not cheer for him.
• Connor January 22, 2012 at 1:35 pm

  The glasses are a style thing… it’s an athlete thing. I think LeBron, Dwight Howard, and a bunch of other famous basketball players wear the glasses.
  • theonlymaskman January 23, 2012 at 8:15 am

    Huge dorky ones like that?
    • Donal January 23, 2012 at 9:33 am

      Yes, flamboyant eyewear is a thing.
• Hank January 22, 2012 at 2:02 pm

  I’ll cheer (at his first at-bat) to thank him for all he did and meant to us for the first part of his career. After that, he’s a Marlin. And I won’t be cheering for Marlins.
• Trade Wright for Nolan Arenado January 22, 2012 at 3:24 pm

  Why would any Met fan boo him? He didn’t force a trade…he didn’t have a bidding war which included the Mets then chose someone else. In fact, he always maintained he wanted to stay a Met. The Mets made no offer to him. He is not here anymore because of the Mets…not because he didn’t want to be here. He is the best all-around, everyday player the Mets farm system ever produced. His not being here anymore is not because he didn’t want to be. He had no option but to sign elsewhere.
  • Des January 22, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    You can fool some of the people all the time. . . . What nonsense.
• Des January 22, 2012 at 3:42 pm

  I’ll politely clap his first time up but after that I’ll just treat him as an opponent. Unlike many Mets fans, I think Jose and his agent, Peter Greenberg, tried to get too cute when contract renewal time came. But given the Mets financial straits and Picard’s Pick Your Pockets lawsuit which looked threatening at the time, it revealed that the Jose’s team didn’t do proper due diligence. Why would any team put in an early bid unless it would be preemptively treated by Jose? It’s nuts and Jose is now just a respected opponent.
• Joey D. January 22, 2012 at 5:29 pm

  I would definitely stand up and cheer as he approached the plate in part of what I hope would be both a standing ovation for him and a way of showing up the Wilpons and the manner in which we were all fed a bunch of bull by Sandy Alderson when he knew the Mets weren’t going to offer him anything.

  After he steps into the batter’s box and ready for the first pitch, then he is an opponent where a polite little cheer from the crowd won’t bother me but I would not be a part of.

  Anyway, it makes no difference. I do not plan to be there on April 24 or any other game this season until ownership changes hands.

  Now, if the situation was like with Albert Puljos and St. Louis, I would boo him without mercy because there comes a point when loyalty does mean something. He got a very generous offer from the Cardinals and still decided the money was worth more than the uprooting of his family during the summer and everything else involved. He won’t even feel the impact of that more money when it comes to his financial security or lifestyle.
  • stick January 22, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    you might as well find another team now, since it doesn’t appear the wilpons are going anywhere anytime soon.

    And reyes and pujols both went for the money. BS that the agent didn’t know what the mets were willing to give him. The whole situation smelled like a premade plan anyway.

    Pujols, he was a hypocrite though for sure. Hard to think he ever wanted to stay.
    • K Maxx January 22, 2012 at 6:12 pm

      Alderson lied through his teeth since he became GM on Reyes. From day one. Never ever even considered Reyes as his SS in 2012. I dont know what the heck you’re referring to. If Omar remained GM Reyes would have been signed, sealed, delivered in 2010 and for a lot less than what Marlins gave him. Alderson is too old to understand the game has passed him by. Minaya got derailed by historic injuries. Alderson turned it into a train wreck by choice and a non stop chain of bad decisions and bad players.
      • BXMets January 22, 2012 at 6:24 pm

        The pre-made plan was that Alderson came here with his homeboys to do one thing and it was apparent from day one, get rid of the Los Mets. Castillo, Perez, K-Rod, Beltran, Reyes and Pagan’s days were all numbered from the word go. Pelfrey, Wright, Bay and Dickey were safe at home. Sure a couple of them needed to go like Ollie, but it was clear what Alderson meant when he said these were the “new” Mets.
        • Mr North Jersey January 22, 2012 at 6:54 pm

          I normally don’t say this but your an idiot.
      • Mr North Jersey January 22, 2012 at 6:32 pm

        Leaving Omar out if this since he is 1. no longer here and 2. he is partly to blame for the situation the team was left in. The idea that somehow the team was not a wreck before Alderson ever got here is a stretch.
        • Mr North Jersey January 22, 2012 at 6:36 pm

          should read he is only* partly
    • Bayonne Mets Fan January 22, 2012 at 6:13 pm

      premade plan in that Sandy never had any intention in signing Reyes starting with his “speed is a foot note” comment and you remember the early stories about Reyes possibly not being Sandy’s kind of ballplayer – whatever the hell that is.

      Add to that the cavalier attempt or non-attempt by not even making an offer to Reyes and showing him that you would like for him to be a part of what you’re doing here tells me that Sandy NEVER had any interest whatsoever in signing Reyes unless it was under Sandy’s terms. No offer, no attempt so I don’t blame Reyes for leaving.
      • martin January 23, 2012 at 1:42 am

        bayonne sandy hasnt played the game like you have, so he doesnt know anything.
      • theonlymaskman January 23, 2012 at 8:24 am

        It started with “speed is a footnote”, moved on to “eyewash player”, and culminated with “a box of chocolates”. The egotisitical b-tard had Reyes in his gunsights from the day he got here. He knows nothing and cares less about Mets history, and heritage and is only here to do the bidding of his overlords. Jose’ was roadkill in an egotistical joy ride. Mets fans are worse off with the High and Mighty Lord in the FO.
      • Donal January 23, 2012 at 12:42 pm

        He said stolen bases are a footnote, not speed. speed is a physical attribute which can be utilized in many ways and also tends to be a sign of over all athleticism.

        Stolen bases are actions which don’t bear as much an affect on scoring as many people assume. they are, in fact, a footnote.

        And you are also ignoring the several times during the season Alderson complimented Reyes.
    • srt January 23, 2012 at 8:44 am

      This.
      Any player in his walk year that states ‘I want to concentrate on my season, I’m not discussing resigning during the season’, is translation for – ‘I want to test FA, I want to see what the bidding war/high offers will be, want to see if I can do better than what you’re offering me up front’.

      While I don’t believe the Mets had any intention of trying to retain Reyes – given the fact that they’re broke and they knew they would not be the high bidder – I’m pretty sure Reyes was more interested in getting to FA. He must have said a half dozen times how excited he was to be going through his first ‘FA’ so therefore he had no intention of accepting an offer from the Mets, even if they had reached out to him during the season.

      I’m just a little surprised he took what appeared to be the first – and only offer – from the Marlins. Either his agent advised him he wouldn’t get any better or that was where he wanted to land all along.
      • any January 23, 2012 at 9:04 am

        Agreed that he was hitting FA no matter what. I also thing that Sandy did want to bring reyes back, but knew that what he could afford to go up to was not going to get the job done. So if you want to call that “on his terms” fine, but it is an important distinction between what someone wants to pay, and what they actually can pay.

        might be more accurate to say they had no expectation of resigning him, not no desire.

        as to the Marlins? My guess is that it was a combination of that being where he wanted/hoped/desired to go all along, and his agent reading the tea leaves and deciding he wasn’t likely to do better. And if the Marlins put a “take it or leave it” stipulation (with the implied threat of going all in on Pujols say) they might have decided to grab the guarantee and be done with it.
        • srt January 23, 2012 at 9:11 am

          ‘might be more accurate to say they had no expectation of resigning him, not no desire.’

          Agree 100%. Sandy did say that Friday he thought there was a fair chance they could actually get the deal done. Come Saturday afternoon, that chance was gone as Miami made certain the Mets weren’t going to outbid them.
          • any January 23, 2012 at 9:19 am

            FA is really just an auction for most guys. So if you go to an auction with your eye on a particular piece, with a bidding limit of a certain $ amount, you hope bidding stays within your cap but as soon as it shoots past your paddle stays down. Doesn’t mean you didn’t hope to get the item, or still want it, just that you had to drop out before the end.
• Joey D. January 22, 2012 at 7:10 pm

  How can anyone state Jose went for the best offer when there was none, not even a token offer?

  I don’t blame Reyes for leaving cause I believe it had to do more than just with money (which we will never now know). The Wilpons are taking the team downhill with them and other than kids or fringe players, who would want to play for a club without a future? I don’t buy the “rebuilding” line one bit for in this day and age teams cannot expect to “rebuild” with just nickel and dime free agents and minor league talent – only one (Tampa Bay) has been successful in that approach.

  Oakland just dumps good talent when players are eligible for arbitration and Billy Beane has thus been in a constant rebuilding stage since 2007 since Oakland has no money to work with. Is this all that what we got to look forward to as well?
  • theonlymaskman January 23, 2012 at 8:34 am

    You are correct. There is no rebuilding going on, only downsizing to save the ownership’s butts. I don’t buy this theory of an implicit under the table offer from the Mets that Jose’ and his agent knew all about. If there was an offer, why not make it public for all to see? Why keep it secret? If an offer was open to the public, the fans would know that at least the Mets tried. But there was no offer. The fear in the FO was that if they gave Jose’ a low ball offer lower than the Marlin’s offer that he might actually accept it to stay with the Mets. There was not even a perfunctory wine and dine evening. It was truly a slap in the face to a great homegrown player who lead the team for so many years. It was an insult and an affront to Jose’ and all Mets fans and the apologists here expect us to buy their Pollyana version.
    • any January 23, 2012 at 9:11 am

      It isn’t actually to save the owners butts. It is to stop the team from losing money. Any team would have to do that.

      It would be different if the team was turning a profit, but they were gutting payroll so that the owners could skim money off the top to fund losses elsewhere in there business or personal world. That seems to be what Mccourt was doing in LA.
• theonlymaskman January 23, 2012 at 8:35 am

  I will cheer for Jose’ and boo the Mets. Perhaps I will attend that first game with the Marlins and then say sayonara for the rest of the season.
  • Donal January 23, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Good more beer for me. I guess we’ll see you when the bandwagon gets trendy again.
• Donal January 23, 2012 at 9:37 am

  I’ll cheer for him his first PA. After that, he’s just another player on a team I really dislike.
• Jon January 23, 2012 at 12:38 pm

  Of course you should cheer. He is the best non- pitcher we have developed( alright maybe Strawberry) and the most exciting player in the game. Just reinforces the pathetic plight of the Wilpons and their major league provided fixer in that they will be rooting and welcoming him back because it may be the only sellout they get( plus the Yanks but in Reyes case it will be Met fans in the park)