Comments on: MMO Fair Foul: A 94 Win Season For The Mets?

By: Mets as the spoiler team in 2012? « It's All Mets to Me

Mets as the spoiler team in 2012? « It's All Mets to Me — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:13:31 +0000

[...] thought about it. I had also read that if everything had gone in favor of the Mets, they could win 94 games. And the Mets need more help than the Jets did during that last game against the [...]

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 16:23:02 +0000

94 wins?

Two chances of that happening this season…SLIM and NONE.

The likelihood is that this team will lose 94 games instead!

How many did we win last season? And that was with terrific yet short seasons from Beltran and Reyes. Till he got hurt Jose was a legit candidate for MVP of the National League and Beltran a Comeback Award before he went to the Giants.

YOU MUST BE ON DRUGS!

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:41:37 +0000

Well, the only “reason” here was explaining how inexact WAR is. Mainly, I just think he was bored.

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:27:40 +0000

If he’s healthy and gets run support, probably a good 15 times, at least.

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:25:59 +0000

The guy I hate? I don’t hate anyone. That is you and your band of merry morons.

As for Minaya, Beltran fell into his lap. The red Sox and Yankees simply wouldn’t give him the money he wanted ebcause they had their center fielders. and it still took an extra $20 million to convince beltran to be a Met.

Do you not see the difference between the 2 situations? How a blank check to go buy talent might be somewhat adventageous? Is it really a coup or a shock when the team with one of the highest payrolls goes and gets a big time free agent?

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:21:58 +0000

Well, his humor does tend to point out some truths. He generally uses his jokes to bring some reason to the conversation.

I don’t think it was totally about pissing people off for a response.

By: kingpin78

kingpin78 — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 14:07:40 +0000

ahh, the almightly “what ifs”….well let me play along…

what if Jose Reyes pulls him hammy in the 3rd week of spring training and begins his Marlins Legacy on the 60 day DL?….that would ease the pain of losing him

what if Ike has a monster break out year, contending for the MVP, hitting .312, 33 HR, 101 RBI

what if, like Joe said, Duda, continuing his progression, has a breakout year as well, hitting .285, 28, 88…

what if Pelfrey has a bounce back year and can give us 13 wins with a 3.79 ERA…

what if Niese continues to improve, leveling off around where he will be?…..

what if Wright has a bounceback year?…280, 30, 95

what if R. Tejada gives us solid defense all year while hitting .280 and 35 doubles…

hey, this is fun….and ive seen stranger things happen in baseball. and its not all that far fetched… everyone seems to think we are already written down for last place. Thats assuming everything falls into place for the other 4 teams in our division. Nothing goes wrong for anyone else…..im really starting to think that the majority of the Mets fan base WANTS the Mets to lose….all you bring is negativity. Why even be a fan?… not you Joe, just the “negative mets fan” in general

By: Joe Diaz

Joe Diaz — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 05:05:25 +0000

They also have 2 studs on the fast track.Skaggs and Bauer and maybe the best of them all 2-3 years down the road in Archie Bradley.

By: Pauly METS!

Pauly METS! — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 04:30:17 +0000

Beltran helped but Davis for a full season would have done better than Beltran for sure by the end of the season, just look at Davis’s hot april before his clash of titans. Also did you literally just mention Reyes and the full year together? 126 games isn’t a full season. Reyes was average offensively in 2011 when it came to clutch. His rbi’s just proves my point but he did give us runs but the Mets right now in my opinion will be a tad better offensively in 2012 (if healthy). I mention healthy because the splinters (jose reyes and carlos beltran) have at last been taken out the lions paws. Sure reyes and beltran are amazing but lets face it, injuries always gets the best of any player just ask #17.

I will agree with you on the pitching though. Santana, Dickey, Niese, Pelfrey and Gee doesnt look too solid but let me tell you a little secret. Starting Pitchers start the game, bullpen ends it.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:34:14 +0000

You know, forget all that………I just remembered the Cahill trade. Having three studs at the top of the rotation is a great way to counteract that thin desert air.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:30:09 +0000

You know, MNJ, that’s actually a great catch by you. It’s incredibly intriguing that a team with overachieving pitchers seemed to focus more on power than anything else, which kinda flies in the face of the fact they play in the DESERT. The runs will be there……….preventing them should be their concern.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:24:36 +0000

Those are some of my favorites.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:23:12 +0000

My guess is trying to catch lightning in a bottle again, which actually goes against the whole definition of lightning in a bottle. They were something like +22 in actual wins vs. predicted wins last season, and they’re trying again. No issue with that, except for the fact that it was their overachieving pitching that really gave them a boost, and they haven’t done anything this off season to plan for a regression to the mean for guys like Kennedy, Saunders, David Hernandez and Micah Owings, who all posted ERAs significantly better than their career total.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 03:11:47 +0000

Off Topic: Having followed the free agent signings this off-season probably more than in years past every once in a while something will catch my attention.

In this case no team has signed more free agent players to major league contracts this off-season than the Diamonbacks with 9. Why it stands out though is that 6 of them were players that were DBacks in 2011 and they resigned.

Free agent players resigned:
Overbay, Lyle
Saunders, Joe
Blanco, Henry
McDonald, John
Bloomquist, Willie
Hill, Aaron

New free agent additions:
Albaladejo, Jonathan
Saito, Takashi
Kubel, Jason

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:57:36 +0000

Listening to a lot of Sportstalk radio I enjoy the callers that come on with the host and tell him/her if they remember when they called x amount of weeks or months ago predicting the reason that they are calling for now happening.

Which is often met with a “Ugh… yea sure.”

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:51:10 +0000

Indeed. I’m not much for speculation. I certainly speculate, but for my ego’s sake, I call it “hypothesizing,” so as to give the air of crediting myself not with guesses, but “educated” guesses.

Seriously, though. I said this time last year the Mets would win 78 games, and they won 77. I could brag, but I got lucky. I expected things to happen that didn’t and I didn’t expect things to happen that did, and the same goes for every single person who was lucky enough to be pretty accurate with any prediction.

By: Mr North Jersey

Mr North Jersey — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:31:35 +0000

Playing it safe I see.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:08:38 +0000

I predict the Mets will win somewhere between 0 and 162 games……….

By: Bob L

Bob L — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:06:36 +0000

So, the gamut runs from 47 – 94 wins? Wow. i think the Mets come in at a disappointing 70 win level, within a 64 – 74 range. There’s some good talent still on the team, but little depth and the rotation has 3 iffy Q-Marks as full members: Pelfrey, Gee, and Santana. RA and Niese wii both have very good / solid seasons.
i do think the lineup will produce markedly more power than most pundits–and fans–expect. IF healthy, i speculate and am totally guessing that Wright / Davis / Bay / Duda, will each smack between 25 – 35 HRs each. Worst case, of course, they each could hit none.
Ah, such a game….

By: srt

srt — Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:40:07 +0000

‘…Mets were the best offensive team in the NL East and the 6th best offensive team in the NL. We did all that without Ike, a healthy Wright and a full season of Duda.’

We also had this offense with almost 4 months of Beltran and a full year of Reyes. Minus those two out, add in say a full season of Ike/Wright/Duda and if we’re lucky it evens out.

Problem is going to come down to SP, IMO.