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2012
Dickey Is A Good Pitcher On A Bad Team
An article by Hojo's Mojo
Fake Teams takes a look at some good starting pitchers who are toiling for bad teams and lists our own R.A. Dickey among his five picks.
Yes, he is 37-years old. But, in knuckleball years, he is really like 27. Now that he has returned from climbing Mt. Kilmanjaro, with all his fingers and toes, Dickey should continue his surprising success against National League hitters. Over the last 2 seasons at home, he is 9-12 with an anemic 2.87 ERA and a spectacular 1.10 WHIP in 196+ IP. I know, I know, the fences are moving in at Citi Field. But it’s not like Citi Field will, all of a sudden, become a hitter’s park. Anyway, let’s look how he did on the road. 10-10, 3.29 ERA, 1.32 WHIP in 186+ IP. That is why I like Dickey over all the other Mets starters, who all had ERAs north of 5.00 on the road last year. If you can get Dickey’s road line for the entire season, I would be first in line to sign up for that. So, in two years with the Mets, Dickey’s line looks like this: 19-22, 3.08 ERA, 1.21 WHIP.
Dickey could have easily been a two time 15 game winner for the Mets if not for some terrible run support and some shoddy relief. He has become the de facto ace of this team.
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Wakefield is available lets sign him.
Great guy, nice player. Too bad the team is a fart in church.
Confucius say man who fart in church sits in own pew.
Rob Johnson,
If you’re going to use someone else’s copyrighted work for nearly all of your topic and content, don’t you think you ought to credit that writer and blog in your Headline?
The headline you chose made it appear it was MMO’s original work, when in essence, all you did was create a new thread headline and then use someone else’s hard work for content followed by less than 2 lines of your own commentary. I realize you credited Fake Teams for the content and posted a link, but that was only after you essentially drove traffic to MMO on the back of someone else’s work. What if I started my own blog and used other blogs’ original work, including MMO’s, for my ideas and content, but changed each headline to make it look like my own? For your FYI, the way you approached this is copyright infringement and you wasted this reader’s time because I already read what Fake Teams wrote on their website before I came across your Headline.
If you’re sincere about giving credit where credit is due from the get-go,and are sincere about driving traffic to MMO for the right reasons, then your future Headlines should reflect where the topic and content came from. I’m not saying that you did what you did deliberately, but I am suggesting a better approach for next time.
IMHO, no he’s not.. he’s an okay pitcher now for the mets..
How can you say Dickey is not a good pitcher? Unless you are using the term good as elite? How many teams in the NL even would Dickey not be a B type pitcher? You can say that his stuff is… but for two seasons now his numbers have placed him in the good category.
Hi Alex68. What does the ‘H’ stand for? Humble? Honest? I doubt it can be the former. lol.
I think he’s an ok pitcher, not saying he’s a bad pitcher or anything…
Again I think it depends on how you define good?
Are Aces good, great or elite? Based on stats Dickey is WELL above average and would have to fall in the good but not great category. Start looking around the league and find pitchers with those stats the past two years. You would be surprised what company that puts him with.
Hi Des in my humble opinion. again, i am not saying he’s a bad pitcher, just think he’s an ok pitcher. but the writer is making it seem as if he’s an ace on a bad team.. i get it, people like dickey, good, nothing against that, good for them…
Alex, the last two seasons Dickey’s ERA is 3.08. That’s tied for 11th best in the major leagues. That’s lower than Sabathia, Price, Lester, Carpenter, Oswalt, and Dan Haren…..I’m not saying he’s better than those guys, but I’m just tyring to show how good he’s been the last two years.
By the way, the only pitchers that had a lower ERA than Dickey the last two years are: Halladay, Kershaw, Weaver, Lee, Felix, Verlander, Hamels, Cain, Hudson, and Cueto.
Alex68 — RA Dickey’s WHIP over the past two years put him in the elite class — 1.19 in 2010 and 1.23 in 2011. With his pitches, he sometimes looks like a guy who shouldn’t be among the best, but he really is. He is very intelligent and it has helped him a lot I think when he plans his game.
Here are some of the other knucklers I’ve seen:
Hoyt Wilhelm (the best)
Phil Niekro
Tim Wakefield
Bob Purkey
Wilbur Wood
Charlie Hough
Tom Candiotti
To me Wilhelm and Dickey are the cream of the crop. Knucklers last a long time so RA has the opportunity to put up some more good numbers over the next few years to earn ‘all time’ recognition.
Des, come on…….that’s about half of all knuckleballers since 1950 or so.
This granddad has seen all of them and a couple I didn’t mention. My point is that Wilhelm has been the best and Dickey is very good.
Damn Des how old are you?
MNJ — shh. Don’t tell Bayonne what I’ll whisper to you. He’s overmatched but is too dense to realize it.
While Dickey has been pitching good and he finished off strong after getting off to a good start last year it is WAY, WAY too early to compare him with any career knuckleballers. What if he’s done after this year? Or fizzles out again? I hope not but it can happen. You have to think about that before classifying him with people who have made a career out of being knuckleballers.
You would think a person who has watched baseball for 50 years would be experienced enough to know this. Evidently not.
….finished strong after a bad start – i meant to say
Oh and to equate R.A. Dickey with Hoyt Wilhelm and call him “the cream of the crop”, well that’s just downright foolish. If Dickey can give us 5 to 7 more years of this than maybe we can start making comparisons.
Not now. And anybody who does is either completely prejudice because they like a player and if that’s the case than you have not learned a single thing in 50 years. C’mon!!!!!
Give it up Bayonne. i said that RA needs to have more good seasons to ensure his career placement so what don’t you understand? For the last two years his numbers have been superlative. Are you just trying to be argumentative? Take your prune juice and two aspirins.
“To me Wilhelm and Dickey are the cream of the crop. Knucklers last a long time so RA has the opportunity to put up some more good numbers over the next few years to earn ‘all time’ recognition.”
Than what is that? Your comments always reek of duplicity. I’ve noticed that. And Dickey is certainly not cream of the crop in that list or any list…yet. People who speak out of both sides of their mouths usually engage in duplicity.
And you say I’m overmatched? Like that other clown Dopey Joe Diaz? Obviously that’s not true and you know it so you’re lying to yourself and making yourself look stupid by saying that out there. Sure you may not like me, i’m rude, i get p’o'd a LOT here lately and there’s people I don’t like and I let them know it. I may not always be right, no one is…but I’m not overmatched by any stretch of the imagination. You are just a complete FOOL and what makes it worse you’ve been watching this game for 50 years and still come up with asinine assertions.
Bayonne — You obviously haven’t taken your prunes yet. You are overmatched and ignorant. Look up the key numbers, especially WHIP and ERA, even if you have an aversion to numbers. You’re really dumber than dumb.
yeah i really need to look up those numbers to know that Dickey is NOT ready to be listed in the same sentence as career knuckleballers and called the cream of the crop. Jerk.
You’re just ignorant and intractable. Take the easy way out and compare them all. Then take some aspirins. Again, you are overmatched but too dumb to know it.
Alex is there a Met you do like? Dickey has been a pretty damn good pitcher for us for 2 years now. I didn’t even realize he’s 11th in ERA the kast 2 years as Vinny pointed out. Out of 150 starters that’s not too shabby. He is our ace.
He seems like a nice guy but he has become highly overrated. On a good team he’s the number 4 guy at best in the rotation. Sad but true.