Wright Staying Put? I Don’t Think So…

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• sd December 20, 2011 at 8:48 pm

  Were gonna be ok! Say the goddamn words!
• jessep December 20, 2011 at 9:35 pm

  I’d be shocked if they trade Wright in this off-season.

  Joe, for the rant about the Jon Niese, Toronto rumor on Metsblog, I’m surprised you gave this source your time and webspace. I’d believe something on Metsblog 100 times out of 100 before I looked to this other blog for information sorry

  From that blog

  “Various reports have the Mets interested in the Rockies’ Eric Young Jr, who will fill their need at second base. Additional sources have also told me struggling 2009 first rounder Tyler Matzek would be part of a potential package, with David Wright heading to the Rockies.
  Obviously, for the Mets, the biggest benefit of the trade is the Rockies picking up most, if not all, of Wright’s contract. With Ian Stewart traded and only journeyman Jonathan Herrera ready to play at the major league level, the trade makes sense from both sides.”

  What a joke. Eric Young Jr and Tyler Matzek. Nice source. I laughed so hard when I read that.

  If that trade for Wright happens, Bayonne & Maniac I’ll join your revolution haha

  Maybe the Mets can throw in Mejia and Ike Davis and get Chris Iannetta back?
  • Kranepool7 December 21, 2011 at 12:07 am

    Are you ignoring the part where the Mets biggest benefit was having the Rockies pick up all of Wright’s contract? Are you so naive that you think the Mets are actually in a position to demand top prospects and have the team pick up all of the tab on Wright?
    • jessep December 21, 2011 at 9:03 am

      Kranepool: The Mets got Zach Wheeler for a 34 year old with bad knees as a half year rental.

      If you believe the market for a 5 time all-star 3B David Wright (who turned 29 yesterday) is a 26 year old 2B who hasn’t proven he can hit or even start in 3 years of MLB service and a pitcher in Matzek that proved he wasn’t even ready for advanced A ball in his 2nd year then I’m not sure what we’re doing here.

      You can hate Wright all you want (if you do) but there is no way you can sell to me the fact that because they take his salary that means they can return dogpoop back for David Wright.
  • Joe D December 21, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mike – I think you still dont understand what exactly I called out.

    Does anything in this post or NYBD present this rumor as fact?

    Do you see the question marks in the titles?

    Does it read like a report or official announcement?

    Why are you defending the MetsBlog post?

    Even Matt himself acknowledged it was misreporting and a bad job by his writer. He deleted the post after he read my comment I left him and then posted about it. He also posted a retraction the following morning.

    What about that do you still fail to understand?

    I’ve been doing this for eight years. I know the difference between speculation, rumors and news. Even the Mets know that and in 2009 I became the first independent blogger that didn’t work for the Mets or SNY to get credentials. It would be two years before other bloggers were afforded the same privileges.

    I mean come on now, lets move on and stop beating a dead horse. If you want to continue discussing this further just email or call me.
    • Metsie December 23, 2011 at 10:42 am

      Joe please stop apologizing to them for things you post that may be nothing more than speculation.

      Truth is the only problem they have with the post is that you didn’t make a Happy Happy Joy Joy all is well in Metville posting.

      Thats the only problem they had with it!

      They post speculative crap all the time I mean look at the opinions on Wheeler and Nimmo none of their optimism is anything more than optimistic speculation!

      Rumors are valid stories in the Blogosphere!
      As long as it is stated (as it ws here) that it is a rumor then you did nothing wrong!

      Don’t give into their attempts to make this site into I Love Sandy.com
      Don’t capitulate to their attempts at bullying and attacking anyone who dares to think the mets are headed in the wrong direction.

      They wish to think that way they are free to state it without apology and if you wish to report on the bad news even unsubstantiated news feel free to do so without apologizing for not posting more Kool Aid to drink!
      They don’t seem to stop or apologize when they talk about how great an unproven MiLer is so I see no reason why you can’t mention an unproven rumor for discussion!

      Just because it doesn’t fit into their media campaign doesn’t make it YOUR problem or your BAD!

      I understand you have been friends with some of these guys for years and I will say this…
      If a disagreement on the direction of the Mets is enough to hurt that friendship then it wasn’t really a friendship at all!

      I disagree with a lot of folks around here and I would still buy them beers if we were at the bar!
      But I would not apologize to them for our disagreement!
      You shouldn’t have to either!
• SloatsburgMetsFan December 20, 2011 at 8:52 pm

  This is getting crazy! When does someone step up for the loyal fans? Ownership is absolutely out of control.
  • Hitman December 20, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    As long as that joke of a Commissioner Selig is in office, helping out his buddies the Wilpons instead of doing the smart thing by forcing them out like he did to McCourt, the Mets are gonna continue to be in deep, deep shit financially.
    • Kranepool7 December 20, 2011 at 11:55 pm

      Selig should be impeached for gross negligence and dereliction of duty.
• baby al December 20, 2011 at 10:01 pm

  who on these spaces has said wright will be gone as sure as reyes was? who said geniusalderson was hired to dump salary and smirk as he was doing it? pardners u ain’t seen nothing yet.i wonder if a certain person who was oh so willing to ridicule jose for asking for a phone call will be oh so willing to wave goodby to david.
• larman December 20, 2011 at 9:12 pm

  well, well, well. The last piece of hope for the mets becomes another nightmare of the way the mets did to tom seaver in june of 1977, the face of the franschie is gone agagin because the mets mets don’t know what they are doing with talent . The wilpons sink they need to sell this team from this horrible diesase place on them from the wilpions . Let’s face it they just don’t care about us,. How many times must a say this. They haven’t learned anything at all. Like i said thanks once again for another great xmas the wilpons gave us mets fans.
• Joseph December 20, 2011 at 9:14 pm

  Wright, will not be traded.. At least not this year…
• t agee December 20, 2011 at 9:16 pm

  Well at least Bonilla will be paid.
  • Mr North Jersey December 20, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Can’t wipe that smile off his face. By the way did he ever show anyone the Bronx?
    • t agee December 20, 2011 at 9:32 pm

      He hasn’t boogied since he started making the big money!
      • Mr North Jersey December 20, 2011 at 9:33 pm

        LoL, boogied…
        • t agee December 20, 2011 at 9:47 pm

          He’s been sashaying since those days MNJ.

          The smile might be replaced with a concerned expression right now though.
• Mary December 20, 2011 at 9:22 pm

  I think this a bunch of baloney.
• The Stache December 20, 2011 at 9:26 pm

  You should have stuck to your policy on blog sourced rumors. I dont believe a word of this and that site has a reputation for bad rumors. Sorry Joe, you fail on this one.
• Mr North Jersey December 20, 2011 at 9:30 pm

  How legit can this rumor be? Cerrone hasn’t reported it and he reports everything.
• jdon December 20, 2011 at 9:35 pm

  I still say by the trade deadline. But I would not be surprised if their financial woes are even more dire than they were. Maybe the season ticket requests are way down or they are getting requests for refunds.
• Mr North Jersey December 20, 2011 at 9:42 pm

  Picture this. An animated gif of the front view of Citi Field. Rising from behind towering over the stadium a Giant Blue & Orange flashing light spinning while at the bottom of the image the words “The Blue & Orange Light sale is now on” in white letters with a Mets blue stroke blinking on and off.

  Can you picture it?
• Joey D. December 20, 2011 at 9:43 pm

  Putting aside the issue of the Commissioner’s involvement, one wonders how the Wilpons believe they could survive financially and retain ownership of the club by destroying it in the short-term in both the areas of competitiveness and business viability? How do they see that in the long-term this won’t result in actually increasing their mounting debt, turning away potentially new minority owners for much needed capital infusion or simply bring down the value of the club and the price they could command should they finally concede selling was the only option left open to to them?

  It just doesn’t make sense. Is their ego clouding any sense of rationality they have left by trying to retain ownership of a professional sports franchise in the biggest market in the country? Is it simply refusing to see the writing is on the wall? Are they so out of touch with reality that they will hopelessly hang on to the team waiting for a miracle until they finally have no other choice?

  Or is breaking up the Mets more profitable than the revenue they could otherwise generate?

  I just don’t know.
  • any December 20, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    they probably don’t care in the least what wreckage they leave behind if they can’t hang onto the team.

    And no, they don’t really care about the fans.
    • Joey D. December 20, 2011 at 10:14 pm

      Of course they didn’t, even during the financially good times. Consider what they did with Citi Field:

      - Raised ticket prices to the point that many just could not afford them.
      - Excluded most fans from entering the park via entrances only for the high priced ticket holders.
      - Built only one escalator behind home plate that went all the way to the upper promenade – those entering from left or right field have to walk up a flight of stairs after the others end on the lower promenade.
      - Whereas everyone could get to their upper deck seats quickly and comfortably at Shea Stadium those in the top have to trek it with long walks to most of the sections.
      - They build a luxury restaurant in left field accessible to certain fans only while building only two sets of restrooms for the entire upper promenade above (and both near home plate).
      - And that luxury restaurant was built on such an angle so patrons can watch the game looking directly at the diamond at the expense of those above for it cuts off the line of sight for about a third of left field.
      - It took fan outrage to finally have the park reflect the team.
      - The playing field was designed to give the new park an instant identity in lieu of being built to take advantage of the team’s strength and the safety of the players (with the field boxes sharply judding out behind the infield dirt).
      - More emphasis placed on commercialism than watching a ballgame with fans being urged to leave their seats and take in the shops and restaurants all around the ballpark instead of watching the game (remember all those promos during the game from the Shake Shack, etc.?).
      - And insulting the average fan by having a season box holder throw up the ceremonial first pitch as if there is something special about these people instead of us.
      • Tommy2cat December 21, 2011 at 4:20 am

        Joe -

        Here’s a bio on the Dick-Brain of that article you reference:

        “After a successful amateur playing and coaching career, Chuck spent 25 years in the restaurant business, the last seven as the co-owner of a successful catering company and sports bar. A life-long Yankee fan who counts among his fondest memories seeing “The Mick” play in person,Chuck is a long time member of SABR and the Minor League Alumni Association. His current involvement with baseball comes as a staff researcher at Retrosheet, and as a contributor to SABR’s Biographical Committee. Taking advantage of his previous Eastern League tenure, Chuck lends knowledge and experience to the prestigious Arizona Fall League, stepping in to various roles over the years such as player services and the occasional MLB Media assignment.”
        _____________________________________________________

        Really, our only hope is that the potential share-holders don’t bite and the bridge loan is insufficient to keep the team afloat. In that scenario, the Wilpons would likely be forced to sell or the team taken over by MLB. Wow – imagine a forced sale or a forced takeover of our beloved Mets is actually a p r e f e r e n c e.

        The Wilpons have described “The Mets” as an emotional asset. Well, sometimes the heart has reasons that reason itself does not know, which is when the end – NY Met ownership – justifies the means – Bernie Madoff money.
• Trade Wright for Nolan Arenado December 20, 2011 at 9:59 pm

  Should they actually decide to trade Wright…I know who I am hoping they trade him for. Wilin Rosario would be a nice throw-in for that deal also. By the way…Arenado has now over taken Pomeranz as the Rox #1 prospect in this list. http://baseballinstinct.com/2011/12/10/colorado-rockies-2012-top-10-prospects-list/

  Still #2 to Pomeranz in Baseball America though (for now) http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/rankings/organization-top-10-prospects/2012/2612657.html
  • Hank December 20, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    I’m really trying to be positive. So here goes nothing. A team with no money and who isn’t planning on winning next year can’t afford a $15M 3B even if he is the “face of the franchise” and your current best player. I think we should all just get used to the inevitability of David Wright not being a Met. That said we got Wheeler for Beltran. I think if the Mets can get Pomeranz, Fowler, and Arenado or Rosario….we will mourn losing David, and now just start counting down until 2014 when hopefully we’re ready to compete.

    P.S. I know I just posited best case scenario for a trade. That’s how much I want this trade to happen…only if it yields best case scenario results.
    • Joe Diaz December 21, 2011 at 1:40 am

      The Rockies will never give up a package like that for 1 year of David Wright who’s coming off a fractured back and declining production the last 3 years. Pomeranz you could forget altogether.Maybe Wilin Rosario and Alex White.Even that much is highly unlikely for a 1 year rental. It’s a nice dream though.
    • Ghost of omar December 21, 2011 at 5:32 am

      Damn, what an imaginative and out of the box line. Maybe, if Wright were 36 or 37 that line would work but when the guy is in his prime years and will be playing ball well past the 2012 season that you and lord sandy ae sacrificing to remain a playa with the real gms, that line is kind oif assinine, and used a million too many times already. So tell lord sandy to give you something new and creative to match his ivy league degree when you come back.
      • t agee December 21, 2011 at 8:02 am

        Maybe we could try SD where your lord and master now resides, you know the architect of the Grady Sizemore, Lee Stevens, Brandon Phillips, Cliff Lee for Bartolo Colon deal.

        That’s the type of out of the box thinking we need to find in a trade partner and your lord and master, Mullah Omar is the best place to start.
• MetsMagic December 20, 2011 at 9:59 pm

  I wouldn’t take a word this Chuck Johnson says as anything more than petty BS. He’s notorious for being a total Yankmee homer and had an argument insisting that Ryan Zimmerman was and always will be the better player than Wright. Yeah, sure lol.
  • Joe Diaz December 21, 2011 at 1:44 am

    Defensively Zimmerman has always been better and has been better offensively the last 3 years.He also owns 14 walkoff hits with 7 of them walkoff HR’s.He’s much better in big spots.
    • Tommy2cat December 21, 2011 at 4:03 am

      Joe -

      Zimmerman cannot throw.
      • Ghost of omar December 21, 2011 at 5:33 am

        really, Zimmerman can’t throw. You are out of date. Zimmerman had a fine arm, it got injured and he returned before it was healed all the way. At that time he had a bad arm. By the end of the year he had recovered and his arm ids far superior to Wright’s again. Keep up to date when you throw around “facts”.
        • t agee December 21, 2011 at 7:54 am

          You mean the way you do? Trying to glom the credit for other GM’s work for your lord and master, Mullah Omar?

          Why don’t you just shut your mouth and go admire the tattoo of your lord and master you have on your ass.
        • Tommy2cat December 21, 2011 at 6:51 pm

          Ghost of Omar:

          Annexed below please find a link to The Baseball Cube that will allow you to compare David Wright’s statistics to those of Ryan Zimmerman.

          http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/compare.asp

          If you examine the link, you will find that David Wright is better than Ryan Zimmerman in virtually every statistical category, whether it pertains to a season average or a sum total.

          I’m not going to lambaste you for your ad hominem attack, but perhaps your assessment of Wright is clouded by the broader frustration that all Met fans currently experience.

          Mind you, I think Ryan Zimmerman is an excellent ballplayer and we’d be blessed if he were ever to wear a Met uniform. Last year, I observed that he could not throw. Whether his throwing improved after I saw him is a matter of opinion. Just sayin’ what I saw.

          However, David Wright is superior to Ryan Zimmerman in total and averages for home runs, doubles, triples, stolen bases, rbi’s & OPS. Wright has 28 baseball awards to Zimmerman’s 15.

          Now, what were you saying about facts?
          • Tommy2cat December 21, 2011 at 6:52 pm

            … crickets … crickets …

            I thought so…
• Kevin December 20, 2011 at 10:08 pm

  Im sure Wright is a gone but NOT for the bag of balls that guy says. No way!
  • MetsMagic December 20, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Agreed. I will never, ever admit that he is a goner (I can’t take this bs anymore), but if he does get traded, whatever comes in return will definitely be good. Not as good as Wright, but still good.
    • baby al December 20, 2011 at 10:26 pm

      the idea is to DUMP salary only. what comes back in return is irrelevant to current ownership.their objective is to keep the team and drop salary as QUICKLY as possible.to think either geniusalderson or ownership cares about the average fan IS naive.if ownership wanted SOMETHING GOOD wright and reyes would remain here.
• DaveUpstateNY December 20, 2011 at 10:24 pm

  Just what will it accomplish? Certainly, no one is untouchable on a lousy team, but further watering down the team will only make them lose more games and more money. They lost $70 million last year. So with a bottomed out team, attendance will be down more and big losses (money and games!) will continue to mount. What good would it do? It won’t help the value of the ballclub, even if the Wilpons were interested in selling. It just reeks of the old days, when ownership did not put their best effort forward and the Mets were a terrible team. Often. Too often.
  • Ghost of omar December 21, 2011 at 5:36 am

    The more money the crooks lose the closer they are to bankruptcy which means despite their emotional and other BS lies, they will be forced to sell. Eventually, the other owners will tell uncle buddy enough is enough.
    • t agee December 21, 2011 at 7:50 am

      Why don’t you just go and look in the mirror at the tatoo on your ass of your lord and master, Mullah Omar.
• Mr North Jersey December 20, 2011 at 10:27 pm

  Oh my God. My daughter God bless her decided she wanted to take a stab at making lemon meregue pie. So she goes online gets a recipe buys the ingredients and gets to work. I hang around long enough to watch her wisk the merengue and assume the hardest part is over and leave her to finish.

  Some time later the pie is done and we all gather round to see her finished work and are quite impressed with how it looks and look forward to eating it later.

  What happens? Moments ago she realizes she made a mistake. Instead of putting 1/4 teaspoon of salt guess what she puts?

  1/4 Cup of salt. Yes you read that right. 1/4 cup of salt.

  Of course my reaction is to say nothing in this world she will ever cook gets 1/4 Cup of salt and her reply to this?

  Hey, I didn’t know.

  lololol

  I don’t think I will ever look at lemon merengue pie the same way again.
  • t agee December 20, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    It was made with love MNJ. It’s as sweet as it can be.
    • Mr North Jersey December 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm

      LoL I’ll save you a slice.
      • Tommy2cat December 21, 2011 at 4:05 am

        “Someone left the cake out in the rain…”
  • Metro69 December 20, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    I can relate. My 16 year old did something similar making a simple marinara sauce over spaghetti. Instead of a 1/4 teaspoon crushed red pepper flakes she put 1/4 cup. Not good.
    • Mr North Jersey December 20, 2011 at 10:51 pm

      LoL
    • NJstuckinTX December 20, 2011 at 11:18 pm

      I laughed on this one. I tried doing this with my wife… similar results.
• any December 20, 2011 at 10:45 pm

  Well, if they do trade him, it better at least be for a couple of serious prospects. Not the dreck mentioned here.
• Sach December 20, 2011 at 11:07 pm

  I think this could be true. In reality the Wilpons would be better off financially without Wright and his 15MM salary next season and Daniel Murphy at 3B saving them over 14.5MM at that position if the Rockies pick up his entire 2012 salary (which I doubt). Plus, I think Sandy is getting cold feet about Murph starting at 2B. Sandy’s 2nd priority after the bullpen was improving the Mets overall defense and believe it or not Murph at 3B and Eric Young at 2B improves the Mets overall defense. Plus most likely right now, Fred Wilpon is at the breaking point and has probably changed his stance of not wanting to lose Reyes and Wright in the same year for marketing purposes. And this goes beyond $$$ and the Wilpon’s finances- I told all of you last year after the Wilpons hired Sandy- Give Sandy and his professional scouting staff 1 year to assess and evaluate the Mets and then watch the wrecking ball come out. The bottom line- the Mets for the past 5 years now have been a very expensive, disappointing .500 ish team that can’t get out of its own way in their own division. And unlike the Wilpons and Omar, Sandy does have the gravitas to back-up the truck and clean house. Publically, Sandy says the Mets can be a competitive and exciting team to watch in 2012. Privately, Sandy feels the Mets are a lousy team and boring team to watch. Remember, one of Sandy’s quotes last season- “The nightly crucible of having to watch the Mets.”
  • NJstuckinTX December 20, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    If Sandy is moving Wright, there is no way salary is being taken on. It’s moving Wright for a catching prosepect and (hopefully) a pitching prospect. We shall see, we shall see…
  • Joey D. December 21, 2011 at 12:04 am

    Accessing the club does not mean dumping your best hitter and ace closer while in the middle of a wild card hunt before the injuries beset us. Everything Sandy is being forced to do is done for one reason only: save money. I think the fun we could have had last summer and the experience the young kids would have gotten playing meaningful games in August would have been worth not obtaining a Zach Wheeler.

    Yes, the logic was that if the Mets were going to lose Beltran they might as well get something for him. But that same logic showed there was no commitment to winning, which last year’s crew under Terry was showing it could do, especially bouncing back from the miserable 5-14 start and losing Ike Davis and playing without David Wright for a few months. At least the Marlin waited until the season was over and they won the world series before conducting their fire sale and/or letting their best players walk.
    • baby al December 21, 2011 at 12:31 am

      u are quite correct joe d…… but sadly most of the fans on this site act like they are saving money every time geniusalderson cuts somebody.they are the uninitiated.i will refer to them from now on as the geniusalderson collaborators.they follow this smirking cone head as if he actually won something 6 of the last 7 years he was a gm.keep punching joe.
      • Joey D. December 21, 2011 at 1:06 am

        Baby Al,

        I am not a fan of sabermetrics and using computer analysis to put together a ball club. Yes, those principles are good as aids but cannot replace the baseball mind. What got me upset with many of my Met friends was that they placed so much faith in this type of philosophy that they saw the players Sandy signed last winter (Young, Capuano, Carasco, Boyer, Bulholtz, etc). as being “under-valued” gems that our new G.M. saw something overlooked by others. In reality, they were damaged goods and discards no other team wanted and the Mets signed them simply to fill in roster spots as inexpensively as possible.

        I also think Sandy gets a bad rap by being cited by fans of sabermetrics as having used that philosophy to build the great teams in Oakland. That is the furthest from reality as there can be. Sandy had money to sign free agents and develop youngsters in the farm system and showed a keen eye in making trades. Many he obtained were coming off bad years and were not serious reclamation projects. The payroll for the 1989 world championship team was ninth highest in baseball which showed being more prudent with contracts, something many clubs practice. When Sandy was forced to drastically cut payroll, those undervalued players he obtained relying on a combination of financial and statistical analysis only accomplished Oakland finishing below .500 for many seasons to follow.
        • baby al December 21, 2011 at 10:10 am

          so i would assume joe u feel as i do that those geniusalderson collaborators who pine for FIVE year plans and who say they are not sad that reyes left….. because he wanted a phone call…. are, how u say,uninitiated to geniusalderson’s way of doing things.these so called fans ask for FIVE year plans to develop YOUNG players at the same time geniusalderson is sending YOUNG players out the door. from now on i will give them their own salutation as”geniusalderson collaborators”.
    • Kranepool7 December 21, 2011 at 12:12 am

      At least the Marlin waited until the season was over and they won the world series before conducting their fire sale and/or letting their best players walk.

      That’s absolutely true.
  • any December 21, 2011 at 12:15 am

    well, sandy really has no skin in this game. He is a short time “hit man” of sorts, meant to come in to initiate a transformation, with no intent of staying long. IMHO of course.
• NJstuckinTX December 20, 2011 at 11:15 pm

  Nothing to see here… Keep the crowd moving….

  Take your grain of salt and use it to cure fish or seaon fries or something. When I hear this from a credible source, I’ll start being worried (READ: excited).
• jessep December 21, 2011 at 9:22 am

  FYI Colorado beat writer

  Nope RT @cjensen23 @TroyRenck Are we still going after Wright?

  Nope … Arenado changed Rox thinking RT @MetsFanSince71 @TroyRenck Any rumors at all on your end regarding David Wright going to the Rox?
  • jessep December 21, 2011 at 9:24 am

    and just to further that

    “According to Adam Rubin of ESPNNewyork.com, mets and Rox discussing trade of eric young jr for Justin turner”

    Now, I don’t MIND EY Jr. The point is he’s not nearly good enough to be 1 of TWO payers sent for Wright and here we have chats of him straight up for Justin Turner? Tyler Matzek would have to be incredibly gifted to carry that deal on his own.

    I’m not sure why I’m the naive one here Kranepool.
• jessep December 21, 2011 at 10:24 am

  Agee you know I totally forgot about that, good catch
  • t agee December 21, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Jessep, I never even knew about it until a year or so ago. I forget who told me or where I read it but I remember thinking that it was an unusual thing to have in sale agreement.
    • jessep December 21, 2011 at 10:37 am

      yeah I remembered reading about it right around the time the rumors of the Madoff involvement started. Can’t remember where I saw it most recently. I asked Adam Rubin and he had no idea about it or if it was even paid
• METS62FAN December 21, 2011 at 9:45 am

  NEXT UP; NELSON DOUBLEDAY’S OBIT CITING LAUGHED HIMSELF TO DEATH!
  • t agee December 21, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Especially since it was his contractual benefit ( 25 M if the Mets ever got a new stadium) that was possibly the last straw.
    • Joe D December 21, 2011 at 10:07 am

      What do you mean by that agee? Is that an actual stipulation that was written into their deal when Doubleday sold his interest to the Wilpons?
      • jessep December 21, 2011 at 10:13 am

        yah Joe

        http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/22/sports/baseball-wilpon-expected-to-buy-doubleday-s-share-of-mets.html

        “One person who knew some details of the current sale discussion, which was first reported in The Star-Ledger of Newark yesterday, said it was still possible that Doubleday could change his mind and kill the deal, but others said it was too far along for that to happen.

        Neither Wilpon nor Doubleday returned telephone calls seeking comment. David Howard, the Mets’ senior vice president for business and legal affairs, called on Wilpon’s behalf and said Wilpon ”is not commenting on the matter.”

        Two of the people who talked about Wilpon’s pending purchase said Wilpon was expected to pay Doubleday about $200 million and would give him an additional $25 million if the Mets moved into a new stadium.”
• t agee December 21, 2011 at 10:13 am

  Yeah Joe. It was written into the sale agreement that if the Mets got a new ballpark Nelson got 25 M.

  Could even have been funded by the loan from MLB.
  • Joe D December 21, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Wow, thanks for the info guys. This is the first I’ve heard of it. Well at least one Mets owner, former or current, made some money on the new ballpark. Somehow I see a blog post here. lol
  • METS62FAN December 22, 2011 at 9:17 am

    T, I BELIEVE THERE WAS A 5Y TERM LIMITATION PUT ON AS IF WITHING 5Y THE NEW PARK WAS BUILT… WOULD EX[PLAIN 7Y TERM TO ’09 OPENING.

    A COMPLETELY OPEN ENDED (ANYTIME A NEW PARK OPENED BE IT 5 YRS OR 25 YRS) WOULD BE MORE FOOLISH THAN GIVING ALL YOUR MONEY TO BERNIE
• Des December 21, 2011 at 10:48 am

  If the various claims about the Mets dire financial status are true — as I believe them to be — then an effort to unload David Wright’s $15 million dollar salary makes sense. The Mets front office is fighting for the team’s financial life so everything is on the table. We’re going to see a lot of mediocre players with cheap contracts playing for the Mets. To provide cover, they’ll be touted as future stars.

  Reality will take over when we are a .425 – .465 cellar dweller for two or three years. Drat. Our history as a storied franchise is being robbed.
  • Joe D December 21, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Spot on, Des. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell people. Everything IS on the table including Wright. This whole rebuilding charade is just that – a charade. As if the Mets are the only ones who hope to select good players in the draft. I was the first one to say that Mets payroll will be closer to $85M this season and $70M in 2013. Now even the beat writers are coming around on that months after I first said it.
    • baby al December 21, 2011 at 2:47 pm

      joe the daily news beat writers are on the met payroll. they will never come around.at least NOT in a negative way.this is all part of the neat package ….a complete circle of deceit.
    • METS62FAN December 22, 2011 at 8:52 am

      JOE, U & I HAVE BEEN IN HARMONY FROM THE SAME HYMNAL FOR SOME TIME VIS-A-VIS PAYROLL
      AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, MAY I SUGGEST WE TOTALLY DROP THE TERM “REBUILDING” FROM THE VENACULAR IN FLUSHING? TO ‘REBUILD’ IMPLIES USE OF NEW MATERIALS; THERE WILL BE NO NOTEWORTHY MATERIALS/UPGRADES USED BY ALDERSON AS THE WILPONS, LIKELY WELL VERSED IN DISTRESSED PIOPERTY FACELIFTS USING ONLY MATERIALS AT HAND ARE SUPERVISING A RESTRUCTURING NOT A REBUILDING

      UNFORTUNATELY IT APPEARS THE WILPONS HAVE ONLY SUPPLIED ALDERSON WITH A HAMMER DESPITE HIS MOST PROMINENT HARDWARE TO USE IS SCREWS NOT NAILS SO WE WILL BEAR WITNESS TO MURPHY(SCREW) BEING HAMMERED INTO PLACE @ 2B CREATING A LARGER HOLE FROM WHICH NOTHING WILL SECURELY STICK.

      JOE, I CAN GO ON & ON ONLY USING THAT DESCRIPTION TO EXPLAIN DUDA IN RF, HAVENS ANYWHERE, PELFREY ON THE BUMP ALDERSON, RICCHARDI, DiPODESTA AT THE TOP OF THE PYRAMID(scheme?,lol) JEFFY IN HIS CHAIR…ETC,ETC & SO FORTH…(INCL FRED IN OWNER’S BOX)
  • baby al December 21, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    when oh when were the mets a storied franchise. u jest i assume…well actually i hope u jest.
  • METS62FAN December 22, 2011 at 9:10 am

    DES, MY FRIEND, I’M NOT SURE WHAT STORIES/ FABLES U’VE BEEN READING; HOWEVER THE SHORT FLIRTATION WITH MEANINGFULNESS FOLLOWED BY LONGER AVOIDANCES OF RELATIVITY I S OUR FRANCHIS’S STORY AT LEAST SINCE WILPON’S INVOLVEMENT IN ’82.

    OVER THE PAST 50 YRS THIS FRANCHISE HAS SPENT MORE TIME CLOSER TO THE FLOOE THAN THE CEILING OF THE STANDINGS. MORE YRS SUB .500 THAN OVER .500.

    THOUGH NOW WE’RE AT AN ALL-TIME NEW LOW. DISCARDING A BATTING TITLIST JUST ENTERING HIS PRIME SOLELY DUE TO DEMANDING PROFITABILITY.
    NOW WE’VE CUT OUT THE EXTRA EARLY DEVELOPMENT(POLISH) ACHIEVED BY INCREASED COMPETITIVE TALENT LEVEL FOUND BETWEEN SINGLE A & GIANT STEP DOUBLE A KNOWN AS ADVANCED A; NOT EVEN LORINDA(“WHY DO WE GIVE BALLS AWAY”)de ROULETTE WENT THAT FAR!
• Rich from Lake Como December 21, 2011 at 10:12 pm

  Wright has got to be counting the days to his freedom… when he can stay in New York and sign with the Yankees at the end of his stay with Team Titanic.
• jessep December 22, 2011 at 4:28 pm

  Joe,

  I’d honestly be shocked if they traded Wright before the summer (if at all) simply because I think his value is not where it needs to be for it to be worth trading for. Which includes covering his salary.

  I think the investors will make or break the Wilpon’s. I think if they can get enough on board by Opening Day then things will start to settle down. If they don’t (which frankly, anybody who isn’t friends with Wilpon’s would be FOOLS to pay $20m right now) then I think the Wilpon’s will be forced to address the financial situation, and I think Wright makes the team a more attractive purchase for a new owner.

  I think you’ll see a healthy Johan or a salary dump of Bay happen before you see Wright traded.
  • Joe D December 22, 2011 at 4:50 pm

    This has nothing to do with the return or his trade value. It’s about shedding salary and in this case $15 million. Waiting until the trade deadline means the Mets will have to pay him $10MM of what he’s owed. That’s $10MM too much.
  • any December 22, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    not really. If anything, they are buying low. remember, you ain’t buying the wilpons. you are buying the Mets.

    20mill for 4% means the team is valued at $500mill.. So if the team ends up selling for 750 next year, a a 50% return.

    Not sure what though you are getting 4% of. just the team? Any part of stadium? I seem to recall that various corporate sub-entities “Own” different pieces, but don’t have any idea how it is all structured.

    anyway, people buying in aren’t doing it so they can hob-nob with Jeffy. It has to be looking at the team as a distressed property, and they want to get in while the value is depressed.
• Mr North Jersey December 22, 2011 at 4:50 pm

  So Gio looks to be going to the Nats.
• Markcomic1 December 22, 2011 at 5:15 pm

  Wright will be gone by the end of spring training at the latest. Also If Bay hits this season, and with the fences being moved in had a good amount of home runs, he will be moved as well. Santana and his contract are the unmovable albatross the Mets will just have to swallow. Also if anyone shows interest in Mike Pelfrey he is gone too. Do not be surprised if our favorite knuckleballer doesn’t get traded as well. The Mets will be come the home shopping club of MLB.
• Metfan Lou December 22, 2011 at 5:56 pm

  Chipper Jones is at the end and Wright would be a perfect fit for the Braves. We could get Jurgens and I bet McClout, and possibly Jason Heyward. Maybe not all three but a trade for Juegens and Heyward sounds fine to me. We are not a contending team so why worry about trading Wright within the division. A perfect fit if you ask me.
  • any December 22, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    braves aren’t giving up that much for him. If they were, I would drive him to Atlanta myself.

    Actually, I don’t have the vacation time, but I am sure bayonne and Alex would be more than happy to take care of travel plans.
    • Metfan Lou December 22, 2011 at 6:36 pm

      Heyward was out for injuries a lot last year and his batting average I think dipped to about 223 and his home runs went way down from his rookie season. He has a mechanical flaw in his swing he has to correct. Lots of potential.He could be had.