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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kay, you are right.

The stingiest NL ballpark (measured by homers allowed, including inside the park jobs) was AT&amp;T park in San Francisco (1.00 HR/game)
Next was PETCO park in San Diego (1.23 HR/game)
Third was Citi Field in NYC (1.33 HR/game)

The American League&#039;s stingiest was McAfee Coliseum in Oakland.  It had 1.35 HR/game.  Citi Field was the third stingiest in all of major league baseball.

http://www.hittrackeronline.com/stadiums.php]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay, you are right.</p>
<p>The stingiest NL ballpark (measured by homers allowed, including inside the park jobs) was AT&amp;T park in San Francisco (1.00 HR/game)<br />
Next was PETCO park in San Diego (1.23 HR/game)<br />
Third was Citi Field in NYC (1.33 HR/game)</p>
<p>The American League&#8217;s stingiest was McAfee Coliseum in Oakland.  It had 1.35 HR/game.  Citi Field was the third stingiest in all of major league baseball.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hittrackeronline.com/stadiums.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.hittrackeronline.com/stadiums.php</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wright was better in 2010 compared to 09 but he was still very inconsistent compared to his 1st 4 years at Shea. If not for a career month of June the rest of his 2010 season was average at best and he was invisible for 6 weeks after the break nearly going the month of August without driving in a run.I think his 1st August RBI came on the 22nd of the month.Since Citi opened Wright went from a superstar on a path to the HOF to a little above average player.Therre are other factors of cours but I think Citifield has had the biggest affect on his decline.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wright was better in 2010 compared to 09 but he was still very inconsistent compared to his 1st 4 years at Shea. If not for a career month of June the rest of his 2010 season was average at best and he was invisible for 6 weeks after the break nearly going the month of August without driving in a run.I think his 1st August RBI came on the 22nd of the month.Since Citi opened Wright went from a superstar on a path to the HOF to a little above average player.Therre are other factors of cours but I think Citifield has had the biggest affect on his decline.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly! They had a terrible home record so it&#039;s hard to say they have a home field advantage when they&#039;re not winning there. The park only hides the fact that we have a sub par pitching staff .Build a good staff and it won&#039;t matter that they&#039;re moving the fences in.It&#039;s still going to favor pitchers.All they did was make it a little more nuetral.LF is slightly shorter than Shea and RF is slighty further than Shea but the wind is still a major factor in the first 2 months of the season,even more so than Shea.The old dimensions had a major affect on our hitters psyhcologically. I could see if they turned it into another CBP or Cinergy field but it&#039;s still going to favor the pitchers.Nobody is hitting 50 HR&#039;s for the Mets next year because the fences were moved in.Hopefully it revitalizes Bay and Wright along with Davis and Duda and that could be a 100-120 HR hitting quartet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly! They had a terrible home record so it&#8217;s hard to say they have a home field advantage when they&#8217;re not winning there. The park only hides the fact that we have a sub par pitching staff .Build a good staff and it won&#8217;t matter that they&#8217;re moving the fences in.It&#8217;s still going to favor pitchers.All they did was make it a little more nuetral.LF is slightly shorter than Shea and RF is slighty further than Shea but the wind is still a major factor in the first 2 months of the season,even more so than Shea.The old dimensions had a major affect on our hitters psyhcologically. I could see if they turned it into another CBP or Cinergy field but it&#8217;s still going to favor the pitchers.Nobody is hitting 50 HR&#8217;s for the Mets next year because the fences were moved in.Hopefully it revitalizes Bay and Wright along with Davis and Duda and that could be a 100-120 HR hitting quartet.</p>
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		<title>By: Trade Wright for Nolan Arenado</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trade Wright for Nolan Arenado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Easier said than done for this organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easier said than done for this organization.</p>
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		<title>By: gary s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said.</p>
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		<title>By: any</title>
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		<dc:creator>any</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:34:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 word solution:  better pitching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 word solution:  better pitching.</p>
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		<title>By: any</title>
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		<dc:creator>any</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well, 1st it is not about 1 year, or the current roster as of today.  it needs to be designed for the next 3+ decades.

and MO is that it helps the Mets more, working on the theory that having it as a home park messed with the hitters on the Mets (made them change their approach), while visiting teams did not do this for a 3 game series.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, 1st it is not about 1 year, or the current roster as of today.  it needs to be designed for the next 3+ decades.</p>
<p>and MO is that it helps the Mets more, working on the theory that having it as a home park messed with the hitters on the Mets (made them change their approach), while visiting teams did not do this for a 3 game series.</p>
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		<title>By: jdon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jdon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it is really quite simple.  if other teams have more power or better talent, then it will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is really quite simple.  if other teams have more power or better talent, then it will.</p>
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		<title>By: Donal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Breaking: According to Heyman on Twitter, Omar Minaya has accepted a job with the Padres.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Breaking: According to Heyman on Twitter, Omar Minaya has accepted a job with the Padres.</p>
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		<title>By: gary s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 16:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have been saying that for 3 years,The DW haters will be out in force next year if he does not hit 35-40 home runs, when the plain fact is that he was never a 40 homer type player, but a gap hitter to all fields whose line drives in a normal ball park would usually equate to 30 home runs a year and a .300 batting average because he didn&#039;t have to overswing to put up  good power numbers in shea.Of course, since than he has been beaned and broke a bone in his back but that is no problem, he just needs to &quot;sack up&quot; according to an expert on this site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been saying that for 3 years,The DW haters will be out in force next year if he does not hit 35-40 home runs, when the plain fact is that he was never a 40 homer type player, but a gap hitter to all fields whose line drives in a normal ball park would usually equate to 30 home runs a year and a .300 batting average because he didn&#8217;t have to overswing to put up  good power numbers in shea.Of course, since than he has been beaned and broke a bone in his back but that is no problem, he just needs to &#8220;sack up&#8221; according to an expert on this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Bayonne Mets Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bayonne Mets Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still don&#039;t understand why people would think it hurts this team to bring the fences back in. It boggles the mind and makes no logical sense at all.

If Citi Field never happened and Shea Stadium moved it&#039;s fences BACK to the dimensions they are now, which is shorter than what Citi Field was, then people would be screaming why the heck are they moving the fences back? And I would be one of them.  It&#039;s all in your mind.

And someone said that the last 2 seasons were a home-field advantage???? That is just someone purely looking at some kind of misleading statistical data and not thinking for themselves and looking at the situation as it it in real life.  And in real life the fences are still bigger than Shea Stadium - and the Mets played fine in Shea Stadium and nobody complained.

Oh...and if on opening day the Mets lose the game on a walk off HR that would have been an out in the original canyon sized Citi FIeld the decision to move the fences in would STILL be the right move because now it&#039;s more of a normal baseball game so I would have no problem with the result because that&#039;s the way is should have been....because the original Citi Field dimensions were just completely ridiculous and got into everybody&#039;s heads.

Other teams came in and still hit HRs because they didn&#039;t have to think about making adjustments and it wasn&#039;t in their heads 81 games a season.  Moving the fences is was the exact RIGHT thing to do and I&#039;m sure the Mets players are happy about it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t understand why people would think it hurts this team to bring the fences back in. It boggles the mind and makes no logical sense at all.</p>
<p>If Citi Field never happened and Shea Stadium moved it&#8217;s fences BACK to the dimensions they are now, which is shorter than what Citi Field was, then people would be screaming why the heck are they moving the fences back? And I would be one of them.  It&#8217;s all in your mind.</p>
<p>And someone said that the last 2 seasons were a home-field advantage???? That is just someone purely looking at some kind of misleading statistical data and not thinking for themselves and looking at the situation as it it in real life.  And in real life the fences are still bigger than Shea Stadium &#8211; and the Mets played fine in Shea Stadium and nobody complained.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;and if on opening day the Mets lose the game on a walk off HR that would have been an out in the original canyon sized Citi FIeld the decision to move the fences in would STILL be the right move because now it&#8217;s more of a normal baseball game so I would have no problem with the result because that&#8217;s the way is should have been&#8230;.because the original Citi Field dimensions were just completely ridiculous and got into everybody&#8217;s heads.</p>
<p>Other teams came in and still hit HRs because they didn&#8217;t have to think about making adjustments and it wasn&#8217;t in their heads 81 games a season.  Moving the fences is was the exact RIGHT thing to do and I&#8217;m sure the Mets players are happy about it</p>
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		<title>By: Joe D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I disagree with you X. That park was getting into our hitters heads like Alderson said. He even admitted that the Mets hitters gave up on swing for power because it was futile.

If the choice to keep Citi the way it was was to mask our atrocious pitching that&#039;s a terrible reason.

The Mets had millions invested on 4 different hitters in 2010-2011, Beltran, Reyes, Wright, Bay. The park should enhance their hitting now swallow it up whole.

On the flipside the Mets had one starting pitcher making big bucks and he never even took the mound in 2011. 

The park is still bigger than Shea. If you&#039;re worried about the effect changes will have on pitchers, than get better pitchers.

It&#039;s a shame that this park has taken guys like Wright and Bay and completely demolished all expectations for them having great offensive seasons after investing $30 million annually to them. In my opinion it derailed Bay&#039;s career, and took Wright from superstar status to above average player. Hopefully the new changes can reverse that. I think they will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I disagree with you X. That park was getting into our hitters heads like Alderson said. He even admitted that the Mets hitters gave up on swing for power because it was futile.</p>
<p>If the choice to keep Citi the way it was was to mask our atrocious pitching that&#8217;s a terrible reason.</p>
<p>The Mets had millions invested on 4 different hitters in 2010-2011, Beltran, Reyes, Wright, Bay. The park should enhance their hitting now swallow it up whole.</p>
<p>On the flipside the Mets had one starting pitcher making big bucks and he never even took the mound in 2011. </p>
<p>The park is still bigger than Shea. If you&#8217;re worried about the effect changes will have on pitchers, than get better pitchers.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that this park has taken guys like Wright and Bay and completely demolished all expectations for them having great offensive seasons after investing $30 million annually to them. In my opinion it derailed Bay&#8217;s career, and took Wright from superstar status to above average player. Hopefully the new changes can reverse that. I think they will.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The part your forgetting is that Citi Field took away one of his biggest strengths, which is power to the opposite field. Those balls he used to hit in Shea for HR&#039;s are now outs. And I think because of that, he has changed his approach at the plate and has become more of a pull hitter. So I think that&#039;s one of the biggest reasons why his numbers aren&#039;t the same at home, and on the road.

And  there&#039;s no way you can tell me he&#039;s the same player now as he was from 05-08.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The part your forgetting is that Citi Field took away one of his biggest strengths, which is power to the opposite field. Those balls he used to hit in Shea for HR&#8217;s are now outs. And I think because of that, he has changed his approach at the plate and has become more of a pull hitter. So I think that&#8217;s one of the biggest reasons why his numbers aren&#8217;t the same at home, and on the road.</p>
<p>And  there&#8217;s no way you can tell me he&#8217;s the same player now as he was from 05-08.</p>
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		<title>By: gary s.</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So sacking up will solve DW&#039;s problems.You should go into show business, you are a funny guy.If your head ever came near a 95 mph fastball you would probably wet your pants.Thanks for providing some humor to this site.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So sacking up will solve DW&#8217;s problems.You should go into show business, you are a funny guy.If your head ever came near a 95 mph fastball you would probably wet your pants.Thanks for providing some humor to this site.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 12:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I do not have a link to prove this, feel free to correct me but I thought I heard or read that last year, even with the horrendous pitching staff Citifield had the 3rd least amount of homeruns in the entire league.

These changes are not that drastic to completely change it from a pitchers part to a hitters park.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not have a link to prove this, feel free to correct me but I thought I heard or read that last year, even with the horrendous pitching staff Citifield had the 3rd least amount of homeruns in the entire league.</p>
<p>These changes are not that drastic to completely change it from a pitchers part to a hitters park.</p>
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		<title>By: Luis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree wi Extreme here- Bad pitching was disguised by the big park- that will not be the case to the same degree now...Wright and Bay may hit more HR, Pelfrey and all will give up many more....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree wi Extreme here- Bad pitching was disguised by the big park- that will not be the case to the same degree now&#8230;Wright and Bay may hit more HR, Pelfrey and all will give up many more&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 07:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Like, I said, he had to figure it out the first year.  After that, he managed to hit better at home in 2010 than he did on the road.  He hit well enough to get MVP votes on a sub-.500 team.

I&#039;m not saying the fences aren&#039;t in his head.  I&#039;m saying if they are, he needs to sack up.  And they clearly aren&#039;t affecting him a whole lot, as seen from 2010.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like, I said, he had to figure it out the first year.  After that, he managed to hit better at home in 2010 than he did on the road.  He hit well enough to get MVP votes on a sub-.500 team.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying the fences aren&#8217;t in his head.  I&#8217;m saying if they are, he needs to sack up.  And they clearly aren&#8217;t affecting him a whole lot, as seen from 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: XtreemIcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>XtreemIcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 07:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Their record was, but offensively they were just as good at home than they were in the road, and they pitched much better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their record was, but offensively they were just as good at home than they were in the road, and they pitched much better.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 07:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They were horrible at home last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were horrible at home last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 05:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before Wright got hit, he wasn&#039;t the same. He only had 8HR&#039;s at that point, and that was in  August. He had already K&#039;d 105 times at that point(115 games), when he would normally K 110-115 times in 160 games.

So how could you blame that on being hit? In 2010, he did put up better numbers, but he still wasn&#039;t right. He struck out 161 times, and hit for the lowest average of his career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before Wright got hit, he wasn&#8217;t the same. He only had 8HR&#8217;s at that point, and that was in  August. He had already K&#8217;d 105 times at that point(115 games), when he would normally K 110-115 times in 160 games.</p>
<p>So how could you blame that on being hit? In 2010, he did put up better numbers, but he still wasn&#8217;t right. He struck out 161 times, and hit for the lowest average of his career.</p>
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