Comments on: Selig Helped Wilpons Break The Einhorn Deal

By: larman

larman — Sat, 17 Dec 2011 01:48:34 +0000

I think it’s a sin that the wilpons are selfish, think about it what have they really done as owners of our mets team. They really let us suffer more than build a dynasty to compete with the yankees. That’s why they should sell and give us a real onwer who will bring back tradition thatv’s been missing some honor. Maybe with could have bee3n a einhorn deal there might have been a chance for us, but no the wilpons are selfish, I believe they don’t want us to be winners, they are holding us mets backl to the big picture., don’t anyone of think that. Sorry but that’s what the picture painted seems to be. It’s going to be another cold winter with hopelees to win. I hope we don’t reach the cellar again. Thanks for everything wilpons, oh yeah thanks for giving us another great xmas.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:35:06 +0000

I wish we had just as much breakdown and discussion about Sandy Alderson’s ability to evaluate talent & his player moves since becoming the GM as we do about these financial matters.

By: Donal

Donal — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:30:43 +0000

The league and the union will cover the contracts. It is everyone else that gets screwed.

By: Metfan Lou

Metfan Lou — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:06:34 +0000

I am interested in knowing if the Met players under contract are concerned that their paychecks could bounce. I think it is a legitimate concern. Why would any player sign with the Mets. After all they have families and bills to pay too.

By: Schmidtxc

Schmidtxc — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:21:02 +0000

So about that game last night….

That’s right

It’s December.

By: Russell Zanca

Russell Zanca — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 19:20:15 +0000

Your question is as ironic as it is ridiculous.

By: JetsMets13

JetsMets13 — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:53:23 +0000

I’m sick of reading this stuff on here. Why dont we just stick to baseball?

By: Russell Zanca

Russell Zanca — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:29:03 +0000

Why my Mets, why?

Now it makes us re-evaluate everything in the recent past. It leaves me thinking Reyes was told to get the hell away from the sinking ship, and I certainly can’t blame him. It just seems more and more obvious that the Mets never could have kept him.

My God, what must other players in the org. think when they learn about this stuff. Even if only 50% is the truth, it’s still beyond scandalous and leaves the Mets looking very diseased indeed.

By: trs86

trs86 — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:27:14 +0000

Rational thought.

By: trs86

trs86 — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:26:17 +0000

Alex, again this is not about Sandy. This is about the Wilpons and the current state of the Mets due to years of outspending their revenue and making poor financial decisions.

Also, there is no guarantee that this year’s team will be indeed worse than last. While the loss of Reyes and Beltran hurts, the Mets DID score more runs in the 2nd half with Beltran gone and Reyes missing a large chunk. The Mets ARE hoping to see some return from Johan. Will he be ready for opening day? No idea. Will he be back to his old self? doubtful. Will he improve the staff during the time he is there? I would expect so. Also, don’t we expect some players to take the next step? Are we counting on Ike, Duda, Tejada, Murphy, Niese, Gee, Thole to either provide exactly what they did last year or regress?

By: srt

srt — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:26:13 +0000

Nah…they could have kept Omar and done that.

As I said, it’s not only about slashing payroll.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:21:16 +0000

SRT, my point exactly, but it seems alderson was assigned by selig once the wilpons asked for the money, selig must’ve said:
i’ll lend you the $25 million, but you got to get the finances under control, hire the moneyballer to slash payroll while fielding a team of scrap heaps and you got yourself a deal…
wilpon then said: done

By: srt

srt — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:21:09 +0000

No argument from me on both your points.
It’s Fred’s team, he likes owning the team, he wants to continue owning the team.

Only time will tell if he’s going to be able to pull it off.

By: NJstuckinTX

NJstuckinTX — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:19:14 +0000

You forgot to engage the sarcasm font.

By: srt

srt — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:18:42 +0000

If SAs sole purpose was to come here and slash payroll, what’s the point?
They could have kept Omar and done that, saving a couple of million in the process.

Way more to it then just slashing payroll. As in trying to get the franchise back on track, most importantly the minor league system.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:16:31 +0000

Any, TRS, the whole point is his enfacy was in acquiring minor league players and shedding payroll, while lying about competing, this team will be worst than last year, he’s talked about franchise players etc, yet his 2 greatest acq have been francisco and raunch?? please, spare me the words sandy, he’s also to be held accountable for the dimised of this team, whether he’s doing so fans tune out or not, the concept is, players also tune out, go and ask the pirates and the royals…

By: trs86

trs86 — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:13:23 +0000

I agree. To me it does not matter why there is a focus on the minor league system and financial responsibility. Either way the end result is still the same. To me it was a move regardless of the situation that had to be made. They over spent their revenue and are now paying the consequences.

By: Richard

Richard — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:11:56 +0000

Wow…Crazy stuff. Once Selig is gone though,Wilpons are toast.

By: any

any — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:58:45 +0000

alex, there is a distinction between simply coming in to gut payroll, and rebuild the foundation for the future. Doing the 2nd seems to naturally lead to the former though.

I don’t doubt though that his primary mission was to stabilize the team keep it afloat though.

By: any

any — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:52:44 +0000

might as well still buy your shares if you were going to (well, I know you personally won’t). Eventually the wilpons will shell their stake, and the 20mill people will still own x% of the team. So no real exposure.