Comments on: Mets Prepared To Offer Jose Reyes “Carl Crawford” Err “Jason Bay” Money

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:18:29 +0000

NY Mets…It’s somewhere between 100-110 Mil INCLUDING Amatuer draft signing bonus’!

Guess you missed the announcement!

By: Metsie

Metsie — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 14:15:58 +0000

Reyes offered to deal last offseason season!

Sandy leads Reyes in the I won’t Negotiate by a score of 2-1!

By: Jeffrey

Jeffrey — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 23:01:00 +0000

I have to say that it seems that Sandy is doing “something” so that he can say that he did. He can’t really believe that Reyes is going to accept that. I suppose this shows that we will likely lose Jose.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 21:45:45 +0000

No way $80 mil 5yrs will work. Somebody will pay more.

By: Sach

Sach — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 20:34:44 +0000

I agree with Jessep. Even if Heyman was just speculating or guessing, I think that is how Sandy and the Marlins right now value Reyes and how he should be valued. The Phils, Brewers and Tigers don’t even value him that much. You have to factor in Reyes lingering hammy issue and all the time he’s missed the past 3 yrs and the fact that he is speed oriented lead-off hitter and not some big, impact HR RBI bat in the middle of the line-up. We’re not talking about common hamstring pulls here. This man had serious surgery for a torn right hamstring and that is never going to be 100%. I think Sandy is playing this beautifully. Why should the Mets bid against themselves? The Marlins are no slam dunk for Reyes. The Marlins are seriously interested in Heath Bell , Mark Buehrle and Yoenis Cespedes and IMO, the Marlins aren’t give Reyes 20MM per plus sign at least 2 of those other guys. Plus, you have to factor in problem child Hanley who really doesn’t want to move from SS. Forget the Crawford and Werth contracts last season. IMO, the big 3 of Pujols, Fielder and Reyes are going to have to settle for less than they are asking or seeking because the $$$ isn’t out there and the Yanks, Red Sox, Phils and old Mets aren’t going crazy for any of these guys.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:52:53 +0000

What team has made their actual budget public?

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:49:39 +0000

Lennon: Summary of Alderson: No on Posada, No progress on Reyes, reliever market still developing

By: Joe D

Joe D — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:48:18 +0000

As I suspected, Sandy Alderson just called BS on Heyman’s proposed Reyes deal, confirming what I said that he would not make an offer until Reyes finishes shopping and gets back to him for a counter offer.

He also called the Posada deal a complete fabrication with no truth to it at all. He never called Posada or his agent to discuss anything.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:32:11 +0000

i’m not talking about contracts.

I know the difference between a contract and a budget…::rolls eyes::

We should have some idea of what the Mets budget is – not NO idea. That has never, ever happened before.

By: any

any — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:26:37 +0000

no team makes there budget public. Nor should they.

If you are talking about contracts, those do come out (after the fact). Sites like Cott’s are great for looking at financial commitments. But, those go up after the fact (and no, I have no idea where they get the info from).

anyway, contract terms always seem to get announced anyway. They aren’t secret. Just the amount they have above payroll is (and at this time of year, how much they have available to spend).

I would actually be PO’d at the GM if they did state that publicly (other than giving a vauge range with lots of wiggle room)

By: any

any — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:22:48 +0000

I would guess somewhere between “all of it” and “every last dime”

Or take back another bad deal, and if they do that, it better be a pitcher.

By: Bayonne Mets Fan

Bayonne Mets Fan — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:22:29 +0000

Joe,

Thing is, everybody – all of us are talking about what we think we can do to improve the Mets but we don’t have a budget. Isn’t a budget supposed to be public info? I’m not sure.

Don’t all teams make their budget public info? I wish we know what this team’s budget was

By: any

any — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:19:51 +0000

agreed. they would have just wailed about insulting reyes or being a sham bid. Something along those lines.

By: any

any — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:16:48 +0000

looks like yes on both counts.

By: srt

srt — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 19:13:08 +0000

‘Blame Ownership’.

Bingo.
And I don’t know why it’s so difficult for a percentage of Met fans to understand this.
As long as the Wilpons own this team, and are in bed with Selig giving them every advantage to hold onto the team – it isn’t going to matter who the FO consists of.

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:47:55 +0000

Are you saying that Alderson should throw the wilpons under the bus if the problems in fact stem from their money trobules?

Are you also saying that Alderson is just being cheap and has no intention of building a winner? If the Wilpons have no money problems, why on earth would he have been kept around?

By: Donal

Donal — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:43:48 +0000

So what? Look at these comments. Do they seem well thought out and rational? Do you think anything he does or could have done differently would make most of this lunacy go away?

If he had made that offer and Reyes rejected it, he would have been “insulting Reyes by lowballing him and embarrassing the club again by begging Reyes to stay” or some other such nonsense.

So, no, he needn’t put himself in a weaker position simply to appease the idiot masses.

By: Joe D

Joe D — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:43:22 +0000

You are angry and frustrated and I get it. But here’s a few things you should know.

1. Little of this is really Alderson’s doing, blame ownership.

2. It’s any GM’s job to promote the team even if it’s a bad team.

3. Most Mets bloggers have not sold their integrity for access. I certainly haven’t. And while most bloggers got their access this year, I got mine in 2009 with Minaya, I don’t owe anybody anything..

By: Davidthemetsfan

Davidthemetsfan — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:43:17 +0000

Joe ive been reading your site since 2006 and am an occasional commenter around here so I guess you can say I’m NOT new to this.. however will you really believe everything the media tells you? Why in the world would Sandy Alderson release this statement if it wasn’t to benefit him in the standpoint between him and Reyes’ agent? Obviously if he heard about the offers from Miami being in the same neighborhood as reports have said that the 6 year 90 million offer they gave was completely off.. Why would Sandy completely let it slip that he would offer the same thing? I see this as a negotiating tactic. 5 years 80 million is not enough. You know that. I know that. Sandy most DEFINENTLY knows that. For the Reyes market to cease even before the GM meetings end and for you guys to think the time to lowball was in the past.. you’re wrong. The time to start negotiating is NOW and why would you start with a 5 year 90 million dollar offer if that is your original goal? BTW say hi to Sandy for me. I’m one of the few who thinks hes actually competent and whatnot. I wasn’t criticizing your post but rather the responses the other mets fan have been clamoring about. Sandy Slasherson? Really? He CLEARLY said he wasn’t here to turn this team into a small-market franchise.

By: Alex68

Alex68 — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 18:39:42 +0000

i guess we will wait and see metsie.. one thing i am certain of, i rather alderson shut us up and reyes signs here, then reading one of those ridiculous post about how alderson did what he could or a list of potential players we can draft with jose’s picks