8
2011
Mets Lose Three In Rule 5 And Make No Selections
An article by Hojo's Mojo
The Mets’ “Accumulation Mode” took a small hit today and they lost three unprotected prospects in the Rule 5 Draft today while selecting none for themselves.
The Houston Astros had the first overall pick and they used it to take the Mets right-hander Rhiner Cruz – a hard-throwing reliever whose fastball has been clocked in the triple digits in the Dominican this winter.
Cruz posted a 3.89 ERA over two levels last season, striking out 69 batters and walking 45 in 71 2/3 innings.
Sandy Alderson called the loss unfortunate and said, “I was in the Dominican Republic late in November, and there was a certain amount of buzz about Cruz. n some ways, it’s an indication of at least the depth of the talent we have. From that standpoint, it was unfortunate, but anticipated.”
The Mets also lost catcher Hector Alvarez to the Blue Jays and right-hander Luis Rojas to the Giants in the Minor League portion of the Draft.
In 2010, the Mets selected second baseman Brad Emaus and reliever Pedro Beato. Emaus didn’t make it into May before being returned, and Beato stayed the course for the entire season and can now be sent to the minors if the Mets choose to opt him.
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I don’t think you’ll see Rhiner Cruz on the Astros for the entire year but at 24 he throws hard but his control is an issue. At that age and in AA, putting 82 batters on base safely in 59 innings is not so good
Not sure on that. The Astros have nada. He well could stay the year.
I saw him pitch.I have MILB.TV.He has a blazing fastball but his secondary pitches are pretty much like Parnell.One day it’s on one day it’s all over the place.I hope they send him back,he’s got promising stuff.I would’ve left Carson off and protected Cruz,but they know better than I do.
Part of the mindset there if I had to just guess is that Carson is 2 years younger and is in AA. Although I’m not sure why Carson is on the 40 man, I’m just saying the age probably plays a factor versus Rhiner… and I still say Rhiner doesn’t stay with Houston.
Why wouldn’t they keep him? Look at the rest of their roster, it sucks.
surprising they didn’t take anyone. Guess they had more talent to lose than other teams!
Looking at the 40 man yesterday there was just not enough flexibility for them to make a pick. If they bring in anyone else they already have some tough decisions to make.
Geez, we’re going into rebuilding (LOL) without any Rule 5 prospects and less 3 of our upcoming prospects. Great job by the Genius. Let’s give him a big hand of applause. Is this a good day like the one when we stocked the BP and said so long to Pagan?
Really?
We’re now gonna get upset because Rhiner Cruz 24 years old in AA along with 2 other guys you probably didn’t even know existed are gone?
Man some of you guys just hate for the sake of hating.
It’s amazing to me.
Cruz has to spend Games 1-162 with the Astros big league club. Relax over there.
Let’s see jessup last year you and the “faithful” loyalists were celebrating the awesome Rule 5 acquisition made by god himself… Brad Eamus/Beato the saviors thanks to lord Alderson….. Now you belittle people sad to lose a guy., Sounds quite hypocritical.
Because I don’t feel our “sadness” is sincere. I think you’re “sad” because Sandy Alderson lost a player in the Rule 5 draft.
Not because Rhiner Cruz is a Houston Astro. Do you honestly believe Rhiner Cruz will be a big leaguer from April – October? If not, then zip the lip.
Elvin Ramirez was taken in last year’s draft, I’m surprised nobody was sad about him?
LMAO. maskman, sandy’s good day is better than any lost offseason… you by now should know that
Come on guys, did you even know this guy’s name before this morning? lol I’ll call out Sandy when it’s deserved, but calling him out for this is silly. Would you have preferred they protected him in lieu of Nieuwenhuis, Carson, Havens or Lagares?
Joe D, i think is more substraction that mask is talking about.. that’s it.. then of course, jesseP has to come out swinging the gloves and defend his 7 years straight loser GM by creating a debate about the kid.. he throws hard, but has control issues, that’s it… nobody is saying anything bad about the kid, just asking if sandy had a good day today
6 years dang it…. get it right. LOL.
No but in lieu of buchholz and carrasco would have been nice!
I know you most likely can’t do this but try… take a look at the Mets current 40 man roster and let me know which player you would ditch JUST so you can select someone that another team ditched.
trs, was that for me or mask?? i am laughing at what he said and agreeing with his comment, if you wanna see my comment see below!
Nah, I figured you could do that. I do not anticipate as much from the mask.
This kid can be a good addition for the astros and could come to hurt the mets, but it is what it is.. with that being said, excuse my language, but this kid throws F’ING hard!!!! he reached 101 mph a few times, looks a little flat from time to time, but i tell you, the way he throws is almost effortless, i’m telling you.. this kid got a lot of zip on his fastball!!!!
Calm down. Were you this excited about velocity and stuff when Alderson selected Beato who is younger and has infinitely more upside? Let’s move over to the bar and I’ll buy you a drink.
Beato throws 97MPH, this kid throws even harder, i’ll take a shot of blue label before settling for the gold label bottle deal?
Anybody else find it terribly amusing that people like Alex mocked (and still do) Alderson and people who supported a Rule 5 pickup last year but here he is acting like the world is gonna end because Rhiner Cruz is gone… for now?
You didn’t even know who Cruz was before today most likely. He’s a 24 year old who couldn’t cut it yet in AA and puts runners on base like its his job. You’re acting like the Mets just lost Mejia.
anybody find it interesting that no matter what sandy does jessep says it’s the right move, and who on here could actual say the mets are closer to winning the WS ( which despite what jessep will tell you is the goal) today than when sandy took over, therefore #sandyfail
will: Can you please provide the “article” written that has this quote in it:
“People are happy he left for the following reasons, not the least of which was his manner in interviews – he was extremely condescending towards the fans… I am not sure why he subjected himself to weekly radio interviews by the Padres radio broadcast station because he seemed to hate it and was seemingly sensitive to any criticism by the hosts or callers.. He often came across as an arrogant Harvard Lawyer – probably because that’s what he is”
Let me know, thanks
Fair enough will, but who would you leave off the list in order to protect Cruz?
Buchholtz, Carrasco, Paulino…lots of names we could have scratched from the roster to make room then resign later after the Rule 5 Draft was over.
And if we lost any of them to free agency so what?
We didn’t win with them so we could just as easily lose without them!
I heard that logic used round here before!
lol
For now, Paulino has more value than a Rule 5 guy. And what happens when they want to make a trade to bring in more players or sign someone else? Also, is Butch even on the 40 man? I did not see him listed the other day.
I didn’t figure you for a scotch drinker, but if you’re gonna have one might as well go for the blue. First round’s on me.
yes… on the rocks too to be honest… also, Vodka. Love clear alcohol drinks.
Yeah this kid throws hard,101mph at times. Have you heard of Bobby Parnell? He throws 103mph at times but cant get me out in a big spot.
Cruz still has to make the Astros, and stick all season in the bigs, not very likely.
Eh, no big loss. I’ll be surprised if Cruz isn’t returned to the Mets before the end of Spring Training.
I’m surprised the Mets didn’t take a chance on the Rays SP prospect Nick Barnese. Right now, the Mets need some SP depth in the worst way after not as yet resigning Batista and losing Misch. Right now, for SP depth they really have just Schwinden if they don’t want to rush Familia. And I like Barnese, rather than resigning Young or Batista and Gee should have an option left. It would have only cost the Mets 25K to take a look in ST. Barnese is a thinking man’s pitcher with a 2 seamer, mondo change-up combo that would play in the bigs. Last yr. at AA Barnese- 117.1IP, 3.76ERA 1.41WHIP and a great 2.42GB/FB ratio. He projects as a 4SP in the bigs (when he’s fully ready) and we all know the Rays are pretty good at developing SP. For 40 man roster space now, Paulino, Carrasco, Satin and Lutz are really just 4 pieces of deadwood who really don’t have to be on the Mets 40 man roster now. As a side note, Sherman says to move Niese in trade say to the Rockies, Sandy would want back a cheap SP like Jason Hammel to survive 2012 plus 1 main A prospect like C Wilin Rosario.
I remember reading that the Mets headed into Dallas with a 37 man roster and they did plan on taking at least one player in Rule 5. But then they added Torres, Ramirez, Rauch and Francisco, while losing Pagan. That put them at 40 and they had no room to select anyone.