Broken record dude! Thats what all your posts come down to!

Bailey is 27, made 465k in 2011, and would be with his new team for longer than 3 months.

You are not understanding VALUE passed seeing things through mets colored glasses. Was it a secret that KRod was avail during the season? No. So are you suggesting the Mets took a worse offer to trade him? If not, then wouldn’t there be more out there for him if his value was so over the moon?

And no you’re claiming that you can do a scouts job just as well as they can. To a normal logical thinking human being, that would be ridiculous. You don’t know more about the game than the scouts who have jobs Metsies. No matter how much you kick and scream here, you’re not all knowing.

If you think you have what it takes to be a prominent scout in the sport, then go apply for a job and prove me wrong.

Silly when the fact the guy wore a met jersey he is worth squat from then on!
Silly when you say you are not qualified to judge and dicern quality player then go on a rant about who you think we should get!

THATS where the silliness started and this is where it ends!

From now on I will simply remind you that you think you are not qualified to judge players everytime to try and evaluate one!
End of argument!

“That’s because I’m not an idiot and recognize scouts have the job they have for a reason”
No you just an insecurity and inadequacy complex instead! LOL

How many All star games did K-Rod appear in compared to Bailey Huh?

Manipulating and cherry picking ranges is the oldest con game in the statistical book you know!
NO ONE falls for that anymore!
Cept maybe you and your cheerleader Donal!

Especially not one who admits he can’t scout or tell what a player will do when he sees him play!

As for my employment opportunities in the MLB?

I make 4 times what any scout does!
And I make it in far fewer workdays than they do as well!

So I don’t need to be employed by them.
Maybe it’s an enticing and MYSTICAL MAGICAL job only BRILLIANT minds can do…
That says more about you than what is actually required to be a good baseball scout sad to say!

And since you do not think you have what it takes to be a scout it is YOU who should give MMO a rest for awhile and stop trying to convince everyone on what you think we should do after admitting YOUR NOT QUALIFIED to know a damn thing as far as what is a good player and what is not!

STOP TRYING!

Funny how you think lesser players are worth TOP kids but All Stars are not!

From the rest of what you said it seems like you think trading Harvey is a good move for this guy!

If it is then you had better revisit your opinion that K-Rod’s trade (who was a PREMIERE closer in the MLB) was worth what we got!

It’s is comical that anyone who has worn a Met jersey is WORTHLESS to you yet someone on another team is wirth the skies!

That tells us everything we need to know about your evaluatin skills and view of Salary over performance!

And you even admitted as much in your replies about the scouting!
You admit you can;’t do what scouts do!
If so why should we listen to what you think since you don’t actually think anything just listen to what some other guy said?

Tell me this, You saw plenty of ABs from David wright last year.
You don’t think you could tell anyone what his problems were in his swing?

You couldn’t conclude just by what you saw that he was so focused on pulling the ball that he became vulnerable to the low outside breaking ball and know that if corrected he could hit 25-30 HRs?

You couldn’t tell that Reyes was successful because he laid off the high strikes and bad pitches and if he continued to do that he would hit for a very high average? (as he did!)

Here is something you don’t seem to take into account.
MOST of the baseball you watch is MLB caliber!
MOST of the baseball the scouts watch are HS, College and MiL caliber.
YOU see more MLB baseball than most scouts do (at least the ones who work for BA anyway! there are MLB scouts who scout MLB players as well they don’t contribute much to BA’s list!)

So you know a good MLB player when you see one don’t you?
If not then I’m sorry but I pretty much see a guy play in the MLB and can tell you if he is a good player or not, what he is good at, what he is suspect at, what he needs to work on, and what he simply is not capable of.

So YES I can project how good a guy can be and even tell you what he needs to improve on to get better!

If you can;’t do that well then thats a personal problem of yours not mine!

Here is my scouting on a guy like Pelfrey.
Has the pitches and the stuf to win ballgames.
Does not use that stuff properly,
Gets caught up on using the same pitch consecutively and not a lot of variety.
Relies on his cutter too much.
Has no plan of attack on the mound.
He’s a thrower not a Pitcher!
Does not use his fastball or challenge hitters inside enough.
gives into adversity!
He needs to set up hitters in the first two times around the order and dopesn’t.
This leads to him getting hit and hit hard third time around.
Needs to learn how to pitch instead of relying on the movement of his stuff to fool the batter!

If the guy learns how to Pitch instead of throw could be an All star pitcher and 20 game winner!

Now if you couldn’t do that or figure that out on your own then it would explain why we differ so much in the direction this team should be going!
You need to rely on others and I rely on myself and MY OWN knowledge to evaluate the players.
And I will look at the stats to ensure what I think is actually true!
None of the guys on BA’s list are cross referenced there!
Nimmo is on and what are his numbers?

Francisco Rodriguez in 2007, and 2008 is not what you trade for in July of 2011. You trade for Francisco Rodriguez 2011. Nobody cares what KRod did in 2007, that doesn’t translate to today. Again if his value was so high the Mets would have gotten better offers, and a team would want him to be their closer not a set up man.

Finally, Let me explain this to you very clearly.

Me thinking I’m not better than scouts is not an insecurity. It’s reality. If I could do a better job than scouts, then I’d be a scout.

So I suggest once again if you feel you can do a better job then submit an application and wait to see how many phone calls you get.

Since you feel your talents out weigh those of MLB Scouts and Baseball America journalists, I suggest you look into those career options.

I’m comparing PERFORMANCE not Salary!
I know you all about the Salary but the truth is an All star is far more worth a top prospect than some guy who hasn’t done as much in the MLB!

If that guy is cheap then why are they trading him at all?

Sure a lot of the All Stars in the league were named on the list because good players also scout well!

And more interesting would be to see all the All Stars who NEVER made the top 100 list!
I bet quite a few never made the list who are now major players in the MLB!

that has more to do with the big club not keeping their stars than BA being wrong about their prospects.

It’s not BA that is the real problem here it is the fact that there is no accountability for the people they use to make thier list up.

BA says the Mets don’t have a lot of good kids but I’m sure the Met scouts feel otherwise!
And if they are wrong the Mets will fire them!

Not really the case at BA! They have their guys they call for input and don’t change that list based on their success or failure rate!

You DID read the same thing last year but like you always do – you MISUNDERSTAND.

I’m not saying stay with that roster and make no changes because that’s how you’re making it sound. I’m saying it’s a good start to build on. It’s a roster that can contend with some help via trades/free agent signings. That’s what I’m saying and I’m sure most people understood it that way.

I swear more than 70% of the discussion on this boards is trying to explain the points you’re trying to make to the people that always misunderstand or can’t understand them. And when that’s FINALLY established..if it’s established..then the baseball talk starts. It’s exhausting!

People think fans can’t SEE what is good and what is not and that you need some knowledge of the game to know for sure.

We decide what is good and bad every year!
When we go to see a game we know who is good and who is not without having to breakdown his swing mechanics or stats!

So this notion that Scouts are better at knowing who is good and who is not is totally based on the fact they go and see them play and we don’t because we have to work and don’t get PAID to do what the scouts do!

Why do we downplay the views of scouts?
Becuase they tout as many BUSTS as they tout successes!
You know who should be used to make up BA’s list?
High School and College coaches!
They know how COACHABLE a kid is and what his true flaws are!

Scouts just watch them play, don’t really get to know the kid that much and if some statisitical information was even SLIGHTLY used then maybe there wouldn’t be so many misses!

Hmmmm….

We are not PUNTING we are going to fix the Bullpen!
We did that last year and it worked so well we are going to fix the bullpen YET AGAIN!

I saw this movie, I know how it ends!

With a trade of the best players on the team and/or letting walk a good player to Free Agency!

And then next year we will focus on fixing the Bullpen again! Because thats the only position that fits under the 3Mil per year limitations Sandy has put on signing anyone!