10
2011
Jon Garland Fits The Alderson Mold
An article by Former Writers
It’s no secret the Mets have been penny pinching this offseason. Between the slew of minimal contracts we’ve offered and the lack of any offer to Jose Reyes, it is evident that Sandy Alderson and the front office are examining the bargain bin rather than the premium shelf to construct this team for 2012.
Despite this, the team is still in dire need of multiple positions – mainly concerning depth – and has little money to spend on them. One position that many believe the Mets should look into is another starting pitcher.
Currently the Mets will plan to send out some combination of Johan Santana, Mike Pelfrey, R.A. Dickey, Jon Niese and Dillon Gee. With the health question marks and general ineptitude of some of the members of the staff, it would be wise to add another name to the mix.
One such name that could hit the Mets radar is Jon Garland.
Coming off a right-shoulder injury that required arthroscopic surgery, Garland will likely come cheap on a one-year deal that will allow him to revalue himself. Much like last year’s Chris Capuano, the Mets would be trying to capture lighting in a bottle once again.
Before he was injured last season, Garland went 1-5 with a 4.33 ERA over 9 games, and over the course of his career he has posted a 4.32 ERA and gives up more than a hit per inning. While Garland isn’t going to blow anyone away, he was once considered to be an innings eater and could provide the Mets with some back of the rotation depth.
Capuano, who signed an incredibly incentive-laden deal with a base salary of $1.5 million with the Mets last offseason after starting the same amount of games and coming off an injury while posting an even lower 3.95 ERA, came back and was a strong and mostly reliable presence in the Mets rotation this year – something the team was desperately in need of.
There hasn’t been all that much buzz surrounding the Garland so far this offseason, but prior to the Dodger’s final homestand last year, the right-hander was said to have been ahead of schedule in his rehab and recovery and would be healthy for Spring Training.
While the Mets might be better off trying to trade for someone like Joe Saunders from the Diamondbacks, Garland would come much cheaper and will likely fit the mold of 1-year deals that Alderson is fond of handing out. Last year he made $5 million, so it is likely he would have to settle for less than that.
He isn’t flashy, but he seems like the type of pitcher that the Mets should take a gamble on, as the low risk could bring in a decent reward.
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Wasn’t Garland wanting to pitch on the west coast?
And he certainly does fit the bill to a tee regarding a one year rental. I would have no problem with that. They will still need to sign another SP as well, as injury concerns for Santana and Garland (assuming he signs) would be an issue.
NJStuck: Yes since 2008 with the Angels he has said he prefers pitching close to home which is why he’s been in LAA-AZ-LA-SD-LA
However, coming off the injury I’m not sure if he’s in a position to make demands like that. Unless he’s willing to take a lesser deal from one of those west coast teams just to remain out there?
It feels funny saying this but i remember (and not too long ago) that ‘fitting the bill’ was more about the type of player you needed to get to win games and not the type of player that fitted some general managers philosophy, especially one that follows the Oakland A’s as a mold and who in their right mind would want to do things like the A’s do? Trying to win with whatever resources you had used to be the only philosophy.
All of the years that Billy Beane had to turn his franchise over under his ideals have come to this:
- getting worse and not better
- and trading off your young talent anyway just because you feel trying to fight with what you have isn’t worth it. I feel sorry for the baseball fans of Oakland – and now that business model has come to New York. Not good.
- Not good at all so forget trying to win because if there is the slightest chance that your team may not be able to win – the team will get dismantled and that will include the young players too.
- Terrible model and look how it’s working in Oakland
You’re obsessed with the Oakland A’s you know that? How does an article about Jon Garland get comments 100% centered about the A’s and Billy Beane? AthleticsMerizedOnline.com this is not.
By the way you CLEARLY haven’t got a clue about what is going on in Oakland.
Oakland’s mayor held a press conference yesterday and unveiled plans for a new coliseum city which would house the A’s, Warriors and Raiders all in one area.
By the way most A’s fans I know don’t dislike management, they dislike Lew Wolff
Actually your right for once jessup!
This plan has NOTHING to do with moneyball!
Moneyball at least used deep statistical analysis to find and acquire players!
All e are doing is looking at their Per Year salary and deciding based on that regardless of performance!
It’s Moneyball sans the DEEP STATISTICAL ANALYSIS!
it has nothing to do with a business model, or GM philosophy. It has to do with a team/owners that is broke, wildly in debt, and losing money.
They also need some stop-gap SP until guys on the farm have time to mature and come up.
So, this is what you get when you need cheap, ST SP options.
Stop being an apologist because you certainly aren’t thinking for yourself. I don’t want “Stop-gaps” because you just don’t know if your minor leaguers will become what you think they are. Maybe one or two but not all and certainly you don’t know how the ones that look good now will become at the major league ready. So doing things just to “wait” until the kids get here is flat out WRONG. You always try and compete and if the Mets can afford a guy like Jon Garland and he proves healthy than great – he’s helping us win and not a “stop-gap” because you simply do not know what you’re “stop-gapping” for.
I want players who will help you win now and that’s the way it should always be regardless of your finances so please don’t tell me about “stop-gaps”. The fans aren’t paying their hard earned money to come watch “stop-gaps”
Ivan Rodriguez can be considered a stop-gap in a manner of speaking because that’s what the Mets situation dictates. But make no mistake if by some miracle this team starts to turn it around late in the 2012 season and Ivan is having a good year you never know, you just may be bringing him back again in 2013 because he’s an essential part of the team. You just don’t know that.
And please don’t mention Mets finances to me anymore okay??? I am well aware of them and everything i say is predicated on that so please keep that in mind before you respond and we’ll save time and get right down to business, and that’s the business of getting the best you can with what you have
It is your statement of “if they can afford” that you fail to grasp, more often than not. If they could afford Pujols, or Reyes, or whomever, I’m sure they’d be on them like white on rice. But the whole “affording” thing is pretty much the main reason we see the team in the predicament it currently resides in.
bingo.
A stop gap is simply the players you get every year to fill holes for that season. As opposed to long term core pieces (such as if you had signed Wilson for 5 years).
And it is about winning. these are the guys you rant and rave about needing to get to try and win now, by competing this year. Otherwise they would just use whatever MiL guys they had laying around.
How amny tim,es do you feel you need to defend the hapless gm lord sandy by ronouncing the Wilpons are broke? WEhydon’t you demand the one thing that will turn the place around. SELL SELL SELL! lord snady took the job because he wanted to get out from his rotten job checking birth records for uncle buddy. now he helps uncle buddy keep his uncle’s best friend freddy in the game by destroying the franchise and making it the milwaukee brewers of buddies ownership days. nobody in baseball wanted lord sandy as their gm as he is behind the times. and nobody wants his overpoaid assistants. their names didnt come up in any gm vacancy. Why? Because ecept for the A’s and Mets the rest of the owners want to win. Even the bankrupts dodgers without an owner are trying to win. sandy doesn’t want to win. he just wants to keep his ego happy.
trying to deal with the reality of the situation, which is yelling SELL SELL SELL does nothing Of course it would be nice if the wilpons sold to a nice rich guy with business sense. But since it isn’t happening, why not discuss the situation that actually exists?
I wouldn’t worry about baseball fans in Oakland since they couldn’t give 2 sheeets about their team which is evident by their attendance every year.If they supported their team Billy Beane wouldn’t have to trade off his best players once they hit arbitration and the A’s wouldn’t be looking too relocate to San Jose or wherever they end up.What beane does every year is try to win with the very little resources he has which is fewer than almost every team in MLB.
I’d be willing to let Garland fill the “Casey Fossum” role for the Mets and occupy a spot in the Buffalo Bisons rotation for a coupla months to give him a ‘look-see’. After that, no promises.
Are healthy, quality baseball players not Alderson’s idea of a good player? Is this what his mold is? Has beens, injured players, steroid abusers, over the hill guys, undesirables, washed up players? Is this the mold of players the New York Mets will be associated with while Alderson is in charge? Well doesn’t that just suck!
no, Alderson (like every GM) wants young, healthy, superstar level players.
There just aren’t that many to go around (on the open market) and the team is too freaking broke to compete for the few that are out there.
remember champagne dreams, beer budget?
I honestly am amazed that some people still seem to think that Sandy prefers/wants this type of guy, and purposely avoids good/healthy players because he has some kind of perverse fixation with trying to “prove” something.
If this site is accomplishing nothing else these days, it is to debunk the myth that NY fans are somehow more knowledgeable than fans in other cities.
Sad but true Any.
brken record broken record. team is broke… never does any demand the wilpons be gone. no any always defends lord sandy doing a lousy job on the wilpons being broke. seems you are on lord sandy’s staff. doing as bad a job as your lordship is doing.
Shocked that Marquis isn’t a Met yet.
I’d also like to see them sign Clay Hensley.
He is perfect for this GM.To help him regain velocity, perhaps we could move in the pitchers mound a few feet when we are doing the work to move in the fences.While we are at, maybe we could shorten the bases a few feet also now that Reyes and Pagan left and we have no foot speed anymore in addition to no pitching or defense.Let’s go Mets!!!
I don’t see how Sandy can bring in any SP for depth on a major league deal with the 40 man roster being so full and with such limited funds. That’s why he was thinking more Chris Young or Miguel Batista back on a minor league deal. I don’t mind Batista back in that role but I doubt he would sign a minor league deal. Sandy is probably going to have to go the minor league FA route on a minor league deal for some SP depth so that player is more affordable and can be kept off the 40 man roster until needed. Sandy still has to bring in at least 2 more bench players- a back-up MI and a back-up 4th OF better than Mike Baxter. Right now, really only 2 out of the 5 bench spots are filled with Turner and Nickeas and maybe Baxter.
Side note- Acc. to Scott Miller of CBSSports.com, Albert signed a 20 year contract with the Angels- 10 as a player than 10 years in personal service.
“With the health question marks and general ineptitude of some of the members of the staff…” What does the latter part of that statement mean? What “ineptitude” is the author talking about? How can he support that claim? It makes no sense just tossing a word like that out there when it cannot be supported.
Definition: Ineptitude: the quality or state of being inept; especially: incompetence
Definition: Inept: 1: lacking in fitness or aptitude : unfit
2: lacking sense or reason : foolish
3: not suitable to the time, place, or occasion : inappropriate often to an absurd degree
4: generally incompetent : bungling
I guess I am just not seeing it.
Why fool around with Garland when we can just bring back Chris Young if it’s a broken arm that’s wanted.
you are not really pinching pennies if there are no pennies. frugality reigns.
Is anybody wondering why Dan Warthen was spared the ax?
Warthen has agreed to be the head dishwasher in the Acela Club on his days off to be spared his job.
When are Met fans gonna stop talking about Jon Garland, He stinks believe me what we have is better.
Is another SP who has an ERA above 4 really what we should be going after?
The Alderson Mold??? Yes jessep is right, the Alderson bashing is way over the top. What about the “this player would be a nice pickup for the Mets” mode? Is that mode dead?
For several years jon garland has been on the market, the mets say yes or mabe and don’t. I think if the mets sign him and trade for danks of the whitesox will sure up thr rotation. I also think the mets should go after rollins. Why not. there still would be flexability for this team. Then also bing in purge to backup the catching for thole. Now we got a team. Rollins with his bat can at least hit bewteen 10 to 15 hrs. and he also can help wright get on track to with his whole in his bat. david needs to go back to the basics. Extend his arms to go to right field,his power numbers will be like mike p numbers when he catching for the mets. This mets team needs leadership in more than one mets players. Maybe the mets can execute better with runners in scoring postion as well as making the right plays on field. With these additions it’s possible the mets can make 2012 a better memory for their fans than they did in 2011.