Comments on: Is Daniel Murphy Part Of The Mets Future? http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html Mon, 20 May 2013 18:56:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: Chris http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213247 Chris Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:35:18 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213247 you can’t say he’s gonna be a platoon player because he hit 20 points lower against one arm one year. in his second year, at that. and he didn’t even hit poorly against them. .266 is pretty good for a 21 year old. you’re funny Metsie.

]]> By: Chris http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213246 Chris Thu, 22 Dec 2011 05:32:10 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213246 um, what? Tejada’s real problems are vs. lefties?

maybe you should check that again. he’s hit 30 points higher against lefties so far.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213107 Metsie Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:23:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213107 I don’t know what numbers your looking at but his splits for 2011 have him hitting .266 vs Lefties and .289 vs Righties.
Now that would be different than his career where he actually hit Lefties at a .278 clip and righties at a .248 clip.

I’m not saying he is a definite platoon candidate but he needs to hit both the same or they will think about a platoon with guys like Valdespin and Flores in the Wings.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213104 Metsie Wed, 21 Dec 2011 21:18:31 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213104 Well dude Why do you think I was so opposed to letting Reyes go?

But that said the kid is only 21 and with some experience he could learn how to do some of those things. I know Jessup thinks that life starts downhill the second you hit your 21st birthday but the truth is Experience counts!

It’s still too early to say he is useless especially if he is hitting .284 against MLB pitching at age 21!

He could in time become a .300+ hitter which would change the complextion on your opinion just a bit wouldn’t it?

As for the DP combo thats what happens when you play a SS at 2B!

]]> By: nathan http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213075 nathan Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:44:35 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213075 I am unsure how bad Murph is at third. I have seen him play there but with all the hoping around he hasn’t really had a chance to settle in a refine his craft. I do believe Wright will be moved and Murph will be the every day third baseman. He will not fill the hole left by Wright being gone but he will be passable.

]]> By: t agee http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213072 t agee Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:22:59 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213072 It’s way too early to draw the conclusion that Tejada has “trouble against lefty’s” In 2010 he hit LHP much better up here. Almost .300 while hitting a total of .188 against RHP.

Usually RH hitters don’t have huge platoon splits so it’s hard to be so sure that Tejada will, especially after only 1 full season’s worth of games.

]]> By: Des http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213068 Des Wed, 21 Dec 2011 19:02:32 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213068 Metsie — if pigs could fly….

He can’t run fast, he can’t steal bases, he can’t hit for power at all, he’s got a ‘longish’ swing, and he isn’t a good baserunner. Other than these limitations, he’s a great player. His range is pretty good but he and Reyes were judged to be one of MLB’s worst double play combinations. His fielding percentage puts him between the bottom and middle of MLB middle IF guys. To me, he is an earnest kid but his ceiling is that of a mediocre player. At bat, he’s improved quite a bit, but his low starting point gives him an advantage. He needs a full complement of hitters around him to make things happen. So do we get seven other players, or do we get an all-around middle infielder?

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213024 Metsie Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:08:24 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213024 LOL Des well look at the interest in Reyes for clues to your answer.
Most teams like a good fielder at SS and very few actually have offensive threats playing there.

Tejada is not a GREAT fielder (he is competent though and at least a REAL Middle IF) and since his Batting is his weak spot they just as soon stick with what they got!

Now if Tejada starts hitting that perception of him might change.
The kid made the MLB at age 20 which is a good sign if you don’t realize WHY he came up that early and that it had less to do with him that it did what we had on the Roster at the time to play 2B.

He increased his BA to .284 and his OBP by .055 (OPS by more than .100) and if he continues that trend or maintains it this year he will then be a more desirable prospect to someone.

His real problems are vs Lefties which may suggest he is a platoon player at best.
But two years of data is hardly enough to say thats all he is.
Especially at his age!
If he continues to improve then Tejada could have a very long and productive career as a SS.
And then teams will talk about trading for him more.

]]> By: Des http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-213003 Des Wed, 21 Dec 2011 15:15:22 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-213003 Are you saying he’s dumber than the man with the golden feet but with occasional lead above his shoulders?

Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CigVUX_A8SU

And this:
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/article/Reyes-gets-3-hits-but-blunder-on-bases-costs-Mets-2190335.php

]]> By: Des http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212983 Des Wed, 21 Dec 2011 14:19:20 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212983 Metsie — I find it interesting that the Mets, who have mediocrity at most of their positions, either defensively, offensively, or both, have a number of teams interested in their players. Yet the one guy I never hear trade rumors on is our default shortstop.

Why doesn’t any team want Rubin Tejada? Apparently he is not setting the front offices on fire with desire anywhere. Why? Too high an asking price? I doubt it. Too high a salary? Definitely not. Not under team control? No. Why then? What does it really say about him?

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]]> By: trs86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212634 trs86 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:13:41 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212634 Very true.

]]> By: Mr North Jersey http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212632 Mr North Jersey Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:12:28 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212632 Ebay? Come on guys, your ignoring the Real story here. Now that Texas won the Darvish bid it means the Toronto, Oakland, New York 3-way trade speculation is back on.

Oh goodie!

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212615 Metsie Tue, 20 Dec 2011 16:01:39 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212615 Toronto has money to spend because they refuse to spend big bucks on a player…
Texas will likely try to sign him as they need more pitching and yes I too am surprised the Yanks didn’t make a higher offer to block him but then again the Yanks were very wary of Darvish and probably feel whoever gets him is going to lose big!

Where my biggest surprise came was from Boston not being more aggressive considering Bobby V’s ability to really get through to this kid!
He is probably the best manager to help a Japanese player transition to MLB.

I thought they would be much more agressive!

]]> By: trs86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212613 trs86 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:56:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212613 I get what you are saying but I think it’s a little bit of both just as Dice K’s was 51,111, 111.11. I think they wanted to go over 51.5M and decided that 51.7 sounded good. Unless they knew about what the other team had posted.

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212608 Metsie Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:53:00 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212608 Actually TRS yes I do think they thought like that!

Especially if you know the trick about even numbers you make a bid that would add another 100K just to be sure you beat those teams who also think someone will bid 51.5

When your talking 50 Mil another 100K isn’t all that much more. But it couldbe the difference in the bidding.

]]> By: trs86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212597 trs86 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:41:05 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212597 Oh I understand that… but do you think they were sitting there saying “I think someone might bid 51.6M so we better go 51.7″?

]]> By: Metsie http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212595 Metsie Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:38:34 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212595 Well actually on Ebay if you look the winning bid is usually made in the last 15-20 seconds (called sniping) because someone did that and the person who tried to win it back went up by even numbers and lost it by a dollar!

Most people will bid using even numbers. By making it just a bit more than the even you ensure you beat out anyone who thinks he is worth what you think he is worth.

]]> By: trs86 http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212591 trs86 Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:31:54 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212591 I understand but on EBay you most of the time get to continue to bid until you have the highest bid. I just think it seems odd that they would pick that. I wonder if it is more strategy or random luck.

]]> By: USMF http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/12/is-daniel-murphy-part-of-the-mets-future.html#comment-212590 USMF Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:31:37 +0000 http://metsmerizedonline.com/?p=68009#comment-212590 Here’s the one thing that gets missed about 3rd base…the throw to 3rd to 1st is at least about 128ft, plus you have to make that throw quickly and accurate. The throws from the OF are longer, but an OF’er has the ability to set and/or make a crow hop and usually the throws don’t have to be dead on.

I still play baseball (not Softball)…I usually pitch, play 1st or in the OF…I have pretty strong are, but not the most accurate. I tend to warm up my arm by throwing the ball from one OF corner position to another, and I do it fine and I don’t kill my arm doing it. Last year, I had to play 3rd (in an emergency) and I’ll say that making the throws to 1st was a lot harder than I expected and my arm got sore very quickly.

I point is, I think that the idea that Wright can’t transition to the OF because of the throws is inaccurate. I would rather see Wright move to CF and keep Duda and Bays Bat in the Line up…Andres Tores is our lead off hitter? Really?

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