Hot Stove News: J-Roll Re-Signs, Padres Get Huge Haul For Latos

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• Joe Diaz December 17, 2011 at 1:54 pm

  Wow! The Padres got a nice haul for Latos.
  • Hitman December 17, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Grandal, Boxberger, Volquez, AND Alonso for Latos? Damn!
    • jessep December 17, 2011 at 2:04 pm

      man Hitman you ain’t kidding huh. Latos is a nice under the radar arm don’t get me wrong. I really like Alonso
      • Hitman December 17, 2011 at 2:28 pm

        I really liked Grandal and was hoping the Mets would move in on him, possibly dangling Niese for him since the Reds are high on Devin Mesoraco. I’m surprised the Pads got Alonso since they already have Rizzo in the wings, even though he was outmatched when he was called up.
    • Clayton Collier December 17, 2011 at 2:07 pm

      Latos has a whole lot of potential. Volquez is a question mark as to how he’ll perform post-PEDs. Alonso is really nice though… good trade by both sides i think
  • Chinorules65 December 17, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    Cincy is crazy!!!
    • Vinny B December 17, 2011 at 9:28 pm

      This is actually a very good move for them. Mat Latos is a very good pitcher(the last two years he has an 3.21 ERA), and is in fact, YOUNGER than Yonder Alonso, and only a year older than Grandal and Boxberger. And as another poster pointed out, the Reds didn’t have a place for Grandal and Alsonso because of Votto and Mesoraco.

      With the Brewers losing Fielder and possibly Braun for 50 games, and the Cards losing Pujols, this move might make the Reds the best team in that division.

      I think this is a great trade by the Reds, sure they gave up a lot, but if you want a good, young pitcher like Latos, you got to give up a lot.
• MetsMan86 December 17, 2011 at 2:23 pm

  1 for 4 trade, with all 4 players in the former teams top 10 prospects? Padres trading like a boss.
• kevin December 17, 2011 at 2:39 pm

  Damn I like Latos but come on…… They overpaid big time…………
  • jdon December 18, 2011 at 10:28 am

    it could be that they know something about their guys that the Pods don’t.
• NJstuckinTX December 17, 2011 at 2:56 pm

  Now that certainly was a haul. Wonder what Sandy could turn Niese into? Red Sox, Colorado, Yanks, Cubs, Tigers, and the Blue Jays (assuming they don’t get Yu) could all be in on him. Ah, tis the season of speculation…
• any December 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm

  for those asking how come Sandy was trolling Neise? This is the reason.

  Not saying that Neise is as good or as valuable as Latos, but he is a lefty, and as you see here teams that need it (and don’t just about all of them?) may just overpay to get it.
  • Nester December 17, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    Yes, but two different animals entirely.

    Matt Latos 23 – 72 starts, 3.37 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 430 IP, 361 H, 135 BB, 413 K

    Jon Niese 25 – 64 starts, 4.39 ERA, 1.46 WHIP, 370 IP, 417 H, 123 BB, 315 K
  • Ghost of omar December 17, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Is the lordship paying you to be his voice? Or are you given land to till for your services to him?
• Davidthemetsfan December 17, 2011 at 3:28 pm

  They did not overpay. ITS 4 YEARS for a young ace? This is exactly the amount they should have gotten if not even MORE. Latos is an ace in the making if not one already.
• BXMets December 17, 2011 at 3:36 pm

  Reds GM is a mope. Didnt they give up Josh Hamilton for Volquez???
  • Joe Diaz December 17, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    Different GM gave up Hamillton. They have Walt Jocketty who’s a very good GM.He did kind of over pay here but he has nowhere to play Alonso and Grandal with Votto and Devon Mesoraco who’s an even better catching prospect than Grandal,so it was worth it for them to get a pitcher like Latos.
    • Hitman December 17, 2011 at 5:07 pm

      Yeah, that was Wayne Krivsky who dealt Hamilton. One of the guys in that deal we have on the team now (Herrera).
    • t agee December 17, 2011 at 8:02 pm

      Jockety is a very good GM and one that hates to part with his prospects. I just can’t believe this trade. Matos is very good no question but he’s not going to be as good at GAB and Petco.

      I wonder if Jockety needed a couple of roster spots for something else brewing.

      Overall this is a real opportunity lost for us though. I would have kept them both for at least half a year but if Grandal was available we really should have made every effort to bring him here. Our catching situation is not going away and is now getting more difficult to resolve.

      Speaking of that SD has now picked up 4 of the best catching prospects in baseball since June. Austin Hedges and Joe Susak from the draft, Jose Ruiz the 2nd rated IFA catcher and now Grandal.

      Now that’s how you attack a positional weakness so it doesn’t linger for decades.
      • Bayonne Mets Fan December 17, 2011 at 8:18 pm

        yep, that’s why since 1980 the Mets have more post season appearances than the Reds..because every other team does things better than the Mets.

        Okay you can go back to reassessing the last 25 years of what the Mets SHOULD have done now that you know they lost all their post season appearances and all their post season runs on their own and have nobody but themselves to blame for losing those important games.
      • Bayonne Mets Fan December 17, 2011 at 8:22 pm

        Or….they could have drafted differently and signed different free agents and make the smartest of smartest trades without ever giving up something for something BEFORE going into the postseasons of 1988, 1999, 2000, & 2006. Even though you have to make the move in order to win and go into the post season.

        Which is EXACTLY what you’re saying with your long drawn out manifestos. You’re saying they should have done things differently before those post season appearances and if they did, they would have won.

        And that’s even CRAZIER than second guessing so i don’t know what’s worse – severe, chronic daily second guessing or making up fantasy scenarios about the way things should have been done before they reached the post season.
      • t agee December 18, 2011 at 11:33 am

        The Reds have made the playoffs 3 times since 1990, same as us including their 1999 collapse which saw them lose three of their final four to force a one game playoff which they also lost or they would have had twice as many post seasons then us (4-2).

        And considering how cheap and weird their ownership was most of those years, if that doesn’t say a lot then I don’t know what does.

        Plus when the Reds narrowly missed the playoffs by one game on the last day it wasn’t with 88 or 89 wins, it was with 96.

        Yeah keep comparing our results to the huge market Cinncinati Reds. That says a lot as well. What’s next? Comparing us to KC? Milwaukee? Baltimore? Pittsburgh? Miami? Washington? Colorado? Tampa? Cause those are the only teams in MLB with LESS playoff appearances than the Mets since the Wilpon’s became a full fledged 50% owner of the franchise with not only the inherent advantage of being a huge market team, but also with the running start of actually BEING the defending World Champions, not to mention that some of the other organizations didn’t even exist for the first seven or eleven years of their ownership.

        Talk about accountability on one hand and then come back with a million excuses on the other.
        • Metsie December 18, 2011 at 11:39 am

          It does say a lot you know what it says?
          Your way doesn’t work they need to start buying a few FAs to make those kids winners!
        • Bayonne Mets Fan December 18, 2011 at 12:18 pm

          Yeah I didn’t now Fred Wilpon gave up that HR to Yadier Molina

          - I didn’t know Fred Wilpon left Murphy at 3B and 0 outs in 2008
          - I didn’t know Fred Wilpon disappeared as a leadoff hitter in 2007
          - I didn’t know Fred Wilpon was the reason for 2 collapses
          - I didn’t know Fred Wilpon blew a save in the 9th inning of game 1 of 2000 World Series
          - I didn’t know Fred Wilpon gave up that HR to Terry Pendleton
          - or that he gave up that HR to Mike Sciciosia
          - Or Fred Wilpon was responsible to catastrophic injuries from 2009 – 2011 covering 2 GMs
          - I also didn’t know Fred Wilpon thew a 3-2 ball 4 w/bases loaded vs. ATL in 1999

          Those are not excuses, those are reason Mets lost – you’re a habitual second guesser and to actually put NO BLAME on losing when you had a chance to win on the field is simply an unrealistic way to view things. Then again most of everything you say is unrealistic. You are the biggest Monday Morning Quarterback, the biggest Second Guesser I’ve ever seen in my life
• Mr North Jersey December 17, 2011 at 7:13 pm

  Off Topic: Came across this article regarding Darvish and the Jays. It’s a good read in my opinion. It has some eerie similarities to some things that have been said here in NY.

  http://sports.nationalpost.com/2011/12/17/scott-stinson-yu-darvish-bidding-means-jays-are-back-in-the-game/
  • Metsie December 18, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Interesting to note that they may have no intentions of actually signing him but put in the bid to stop others from doing so.
    It was proposed in the local papers that the Yankees might take the same tact and put in a bid to get the rights but because they would get their money back should darvish not sign it meant they could effectively block for nothing the chances of their competition getting Darvish who the yankees themselves have doubts about!

    So I would not be surprised if their high bid was merely an attempt to block the others from getting Darvish since the cost to be the highest bidder is only paid if he actually signs with you.
• BrooklynsOwn December 18, 2011 at 10:16 am

  Welcome to the Great American Ballpark Matt !