Dec
29
2011

David Wright’s Trade Value: Perceived vs. Reality

Two weeks ago, if someone had put a gun to my head and asked me if David Wright would still be a Met on Opening Day, without hesitation I would have said yes. Now I’m not so sure. After reading about a Wright trade rumor here on MMO that I initially was skeptical about, I now cannot deny how the buzz and talk surrounding Wright has ramped up since then – even hitting the MSM – all while the Mets financial situation deteriorated exponentially in the last few weeks. I won’t comment on the validity of it all, but instead I’d like to share a couple of opinions along with my own on what exactly David Wright’s trade value is.

One of the rumors that got a lot of attention was a proposed Phillies swap that saw them trading their top prospects outfielder Domonic Brown and starting pitcher Vance Worley coming off a phenomenal rookie season, plus reliever Phillippe Aumont (2.32 ERA, 1.09 WHIP) for the Mets third baseman. Another rumor had it has a simple Wright for Brown exchange which most Mets fans (including myself) would have probably scoffed at. But it’s always interesting to see what the other side thinks if only to add some perspective to any debate.

The Good Phight, a top Phillies site, made a case against acquiring David Wright when rumors surfaced about a possible Domonic Brown swap last week. He charted out Wright’s declining trends:

They concluded the following:

  • David Wright can’t field anymore. He’s terrible. While advanced defensive metrics are imprecise, in Wright’s case he’s put up terrible numbers for three straight years from both of the leading measurement systems.
  • His strikeouts are way up. We all know that striking out a lot isn’t necessarily such a bad thing, because you can make up for it by walking a lot and hitting a lot of homers. But Wright’s sharp increase in K’s hasn’t been accompanied by any corresponding increase in walks or power. If anything, his power has gone down over the same time.
  • Citi Field isn’t the explanation for the drop in offense. wRC+ is a park-adjusted statistic. Plus, why would hitting in a bigger ballpark increase your strikeouts anyway? Nor is the MLB-wide downturn in offense the explanation. wRC+ is also league-adjusted.
  • David Wright Is probably worse than the player he’d replace, Placido Polanco.

Some very harsh realizations on the data which for the most part is very difficult to argue away.

Lets take off our Mets blinders for a minute. If David Wright was named John Doe and played for the Pittsburgh Pirates, would you consider trading three prospects including your best one to get him?

While you ponder that one, consider also what Rob Neyer of Baseball Nation had to say on Wright as he was no less kinder:

I’m not sure about the Brown-for-Wright swap…Wright just isn’t the player he used to be.

What’s really interesting about Wright is how his hitting and his fielding flipped at exactly the same time.

In 2008, Wright was +44 batting runs and +5 fielding runs.

In 2009, Wright was +23 and -10.
In 2010, Wright was +25 and -11.

And in 2011, worse than ever: +11 and -11.

Wright played only 102 games in 2011; if he’d played more, the batting runs would have been better, the fielding runs worse. Presumably.

I won’t suggest that Wright can’t again become a brilliant player…But the trend is clear, and between his performance and his age and his salary, you simply can’t trade three good young players for him. Which is why the Phillies certainly wouldn’t do any such crazy thing.

Now whether you’re for or against trading Wright, it seems that Mets fans are at odds with just about everyone else as to how valuable David Wright is.

One thing the Mets have playing against them is that they will certainly have less leverage than any other team they negotiate with based on the following mitigating factors:

  1. The enormity of the Mets’ financial distress is no secret and everyone is aware that they may be forced to shed even more salary than they have already.
  2. It’s hard to ask the world for a player who has essentially been a shell of his former self and will turn 30 at the end of the 2012 season.
  3. The team option for 2013 can be voided by David Wright if he is dealt, essentially making him a one-year rental.

David Wright is beloved by the majority of Mets fans, there’s no mistaking that. But one thing we learned from how the Jose Reyes drama played out, it’s that ultimately the decision will be financially motivated and what the fans think won’t matter regardless of what the Mets tell you.

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About the Author: Craig Lerner

I'm a data analyst and researcher for a leading news agency who loves life and is hooked on the Mets. I love following the Amateur Draft and have a particular fondness for the Mets Minor Leagues who I follow each day. Give me a cold beer, a summer day, and a Mets game, and I'm good to go.

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  • I don’t think any of this is news. Most everyone knows Wright has slipped the past couple years, and that 2011 was his worst year and that his value is down, which is one of the main reasons (in addition to not wanting to trade him at all) that people are against trading him right now. Its not worth losing a guy who has been one of the best players on the team, and who is generally a well liked guy, when you are not going to get much in return. There is the hope that with a healthier season in a friendlier park his value will rebound to a degree.

    Value down or not, I still wouldn’t trade him for a 24 year old OFer who hasn’t done anything yet.

    • I wonder how long David’s back had been messed up before the Davis collision forced him onto the DL. There is a good entry on Wikipedia that describes how they are caused. From reading that, I wonder if he didn’t start the process leading to the fracture when he increased his weight training and started trying to swing for the fences instead of his more natural line-drive swing.

      • I meant to say “There is a good entry on Wikipedia that describes how stress fractures are caused. ”

        I hit the post button accidentally and didn’t get to my main point, which is that I am wondering if the decline in his fielding and the increased K’s weren’t an indication that David was already injured, and it gradually got worse until what was originally thought to be a minor collision aggravated his already existing injury to the point that it could finally be diagnosed. Sound plausible to anyone else?

        • back problems have caused players to fall off the cliff in the past. Just ask Fonzie.

          and you would think that it would really cause problems in the field, especially at 3B.

        • Technically it was the collision with Carlos Lee, not the one with Davis, that supposedly caused his problems. But you are right, stress fractures typically (as the name implies) are caused by repeated stress, and have a more gradual onset…they’re not typically caused by one incident. It might not even be a cause like weight lifting either it could just be from the repeated twisting and torque that comes with swinging the bat. One incident may further the problem, but typically it doesn’t cause all the damage.

          And I’m not sure where I read it, but sometime during this year after he was hurt, somebody posted an article from a few years back, when Wright missed a game with back spasms and even back then he was regularly seeing a chiropractor. So its certainly possible there was some kind of existing issue previously. Though if it was that bad and thought to be having an impact on his performance, you would think they would have gotten him checked out sooner.

  • Craig, you nailed it…. ultimately the decision will be financially motivated and what the fans think won’t matter regardless of what the Mets tell you.

    • well, these numbers make a BB case too, so this deal could end up being fan unpopular, but baseball smart. Certainly the FO needs to account for fan sentiment, but it can’t be the overriding factor.

      Boston with Nomar was a good example of making an initially unpopular move that ended up being the best thing to do.

  • Umm speak english!! Are you kidding me with this gibberish??? Yes we all know that Wright sucks and we could have told you that by his batting average, homeruns, RBIs, etc. All those other numbers didn’t shine a light on anything we didn’t know already.

    • He’s not the player he was, but you’re way overboard. An asinine comment by another Sandy hater? What must you say about all the MLB players with lesser numbers?

      • I’m not a Sandy hater, I’m a Wilpon hater. My point was at the author who expended a thousand words and a bunch of alphabet soup stats to tell us what all of us already knows, that Wright has been in a downward spiral. I’m not saying Wright the player sucks more than I’m saying the situation sucks.

        • So, he was using alphabet soup, but when you use HR, RBI, BA, you are doing…what exactly?

          • Your using the base ingredients the alphabet soup is made from without any bias towards OBP or RBOE!

            • You really need to read what you write before hitting the reply button.

              • Why would that help you become smart enough to understand anything I say?

                Doubtful!

                • I’d need a lobotomy to understand half the things you say.

                  • Well forget it then, You need to have a brain in order to get a Lobotomy!
                    I don’t think you meet the minimum requirements!

  • Players have always lived off name recognition and labels. Some guys are just known to be stars, and others just average, regardless of what #s tell you. But, GMs are supposed to be smarted than that, but sometimes they aren’t!

    The mets could get away with trading Wright at this point, simply because everything is such a mess anyway, they really don’t have much to lose. especially if the Wilpons have moved into accepting the inevitable, and are just trying to angle for the softest landing when they land.

    Wright? If they can a strong package back, go for it.

    one thing with him is his age (from 2 angles). 1st, teams will look at him as still being young prime now (29 next season?), so capable of rebounding in a fresh environment (and with a healed back). 2nd is that beginning in 2014 (when the mets would have to extend him), he would be what, 31? So a lot less likely the Mets 9putting finances aside for now) would look to pony up a big $ LT offer.

    So for a ton of reasons it makes sense to trade him now, and if they get the right package back, it could actually make the team better (not just save money), even this season (but more likely in the next couple).

  • Wright value to us is much higher than it is to someone else. There is no denying that!
    No matter which side of the fence you are on his trade his value is basically locally oriented.

    And not because he is the face of the franchise or any dumb LABEL or STATUS he carries here.

    It’s really quite simple!
    We are starved for talent mostly because anyone who has hit above .270 has been sent away!
    David Wright is one of our BEST players but is that really saying a lot here?

    Ask a guy who has plenty of food if he will trade a steak for a piece of stale bread…
    Will he make that trade?
    Why would he? He really doesn’t need to!

    Our Offense without Wright would take a big dump unless your optimistic that Davis and Duda will make up for it (and who knows they might actually).

    Many here talk about the moving in of the fences as a good thing for Wright and maybe it will be.
    But you have to wonder why they decided to do that was it to increase Wrights power numbers and if so to what end?
    It’s not like we have gone out and acquired a bunch of right handed power hitters to go with these new fences….

    My feeling is the only reason they moved the fences is because it gave the fans what they have been crying over, Added seats to the stadium that could possibly be sold easy since it will be the biggest HR landing spot AND…

    It will help Bay and Wright increase their numbers making it easier to trade them both!

    Our FO seems to be operating two at a time…Two traded at the deadline (Beltran and K-Rod), Two let go (Reyes and Pagan) during the offseason, and maybe Two (Bay and Wright) at the upcoming deadline! And if not Bay possibly Santana!

    That really should be enough to get the finances in order if attendance stays the same as last year.
    The problem is going to be that attendance (even with those extra seats available for sale) is not going to go up it is going to go down!

    And once bay Santana and Wright are gone guess who is next?
    Davis, Duda, Niese, Harvey, Familia, Mejia and all those kids who were going to make us winners in 2014-15

  • Metsie is as sure of Davis, Niese, Harvey, Familia and Mejia being sent out the door as he is:

    That “Jaon Payson was the owner of the Mets when the midnight massacre struck.”

    That Joe Mcilvaine, Padres GM for over 2 months “signed off on Harazin’s signing of Vince Coleman” as a free agent in 1991

    That the reason Omar signed Jason Bay as a free agent was because the Press “goaded him.”

    If Metsie said it, you can rest assured that you have nothing to worry about with Davis, Niese, Harvey, Familia and Mejia going anywhere. unless there are very very good baseball reasons behind the move.

    Metsie is a mountain of misinformation.

    • Yeah your as sure as the Phillies are smart for taking gavin Floyd and another scrub over Howard!

      I notice you didn’t talk about the topic at hand just an Attack…

      Remember this the next time you get attacked by someone like bayonne and whine like a baby!

      • Remember this the next time you get attacked by someone like bayonne and whine like a baby!

        I have always noticed that those who cry the most about the insults are the same ones that invoke them with preemptive attacks, snark and insults of their own. One such imbecile decided to infuse his snark on my comment above, but I stopped replying to that one well over a year ago now. But he seems to have his nose embedded deep up many a poster’s butts here and always to instigate a fight.

        • Your right KMaxx they have their own little support group going and defend each other vigorously and attack the posters then wonder why it gets returned!

          They wonder why they get attacked, feign innocence becauase when the attack is returned it is later on based on a previous attack and then whine about the fact someone actually dared to shoot back at them!

          And yes the guy who snarked you is the WORST of the bunch!

          Funny how all of them just love every move Sandy has made!
          They stick together hoping that they look like a majority opinion here…
          But they aren’t just a vocal minority that sticks together to malign anyone who happens to think Sandy isn’t all they crack him up to be!

    • And for the record I said the Payson Family but since when does accuracy become important to you…

      Hey who was is that didn’t sign those HS kids you cry about every chance you get in the 25 year monologue you keep breaking out?

      4 Score and 25 years ago our FAVORITE GMs screwed the pooch and it’s all Omar’s fault?
      Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH, Omar’s fault SCHREECH,

  • Except that…….I never said the Phillies were “smart” for drafting Gavin Floyd.

    You said the Mets were “smart” for drafting Wright with their first pick instead of a “lesser player” when in fact they did draft a lesser player first. Aaron Heilman.

    You have even claimed that Heilman was a much better pitcher than Floyd which is laughable, especially since Floyd is only 28, a starting pitcher, low walks, decent strikeouts and throws 200 innings while Heilman, threw 600 innings out of the pen with a career 4.40 ERA and is now retired.

    Very smart.

    I don’t care who bayonne “attacks” and I’ve never complained about it once, just stated that the childishness of attacking people instead of discussing opposing viewpoints makes the site irrelevant and I’ve never once said anything about it that wasn’t written right on this website for everyone to see.

    You on the otherhand continue to state as facts things that aren’t true like last nights besmirching of Mcilvaine’s resume by trying to assign the Coleman signing to him or claiming that the Mets, while Mcilvaine was here, did not draft John Olerud, Rafeal Palmeiro, John Wettland, Matt Williams, Scott Erickson, Roger Clemens, ect. when it is common knowledge that they did or that Joan Payson was the Met owner when Seaver was traded when in fact she was dead for 2 years at that time.

    Now if you ever acknowledged that you incorrect on any of these matters that would be one thing but you just move on to the next piece of misinformation.

    Now your claiming that Davis, Niese, Harvey, Familia and Mejia will be sent out when they hit their arbitration years as if that’s a fact when no such evidence exists to support that notion.

    • Sure you did you seemed to suggest they were SMART the year they got Howard…
      A Guy they PASSED on for Floyd and another scrub!

      You said they KNEW what they were doing that year!

      And that means they KNEW Floyd and the other scrub was better than Howard!

      Were they?

      Sorry but you walked face first into that because you judged SMART based on Hidsight and turned LUCK into SMARTS!

      All so you could trash Omar!

  • “seemed to suggest” is simply your interpretation of what I said and does not square in anyway shape or form with your statement that I “said it was smart.” I said no such thing.

    What I did say was that it was a good draft pick and that any team in MLB could have selected Howard at least four times which completely contradicts your oft stated opinion that the “Phillies built their team on top 5 and top 10 picks obtained for sucking for 20 years.”

    After all if Howard could have been drafted by ANY and EVERY team regardless of their previous years record and then goes on to win an MVP and a World Championship then how could his selection be described as anything but a good draft choice?

    • Oh please yuou said they were smart drafters that year!
      All because they didn’t strike out on Howard!

      But they didn’t KNOW Howard was a good pick!
      They thought Floyd was MUCH MUCH BETTER!

      Is that a smart thing to think?
      Or does it only look smart because you KNOW the answer due to HINDSIGHT?

      Does buying three lottery tickets where only one pays off make you SMART or LUCKY?

      As smart as you THINK they were for taking howard they were TWICE AS DUMB to think the two guys they picked before him was BETTER than him!

      • All drafts are viewed in hindsight, trades too. All that can be looked upon at the time of the selection is philosophy, comittment by ownership, positional selection, need vs talent, high floor/high ceiling. Things like that.

        When you look back on the how the Phillies were built you have to look at who did the heavy lifting. Rollins (11th pick 2nd round) A pick that we have traditionally given away because “this is a good year to sign a free agent because our 1st rounder is protected.”)

        Among guys we’ve give up a 2nd rounder for since Rollins was drafted (1996) are Cedeno, Weathers, Pedro, Floyd, Cameron and Bay. All of the guys we gave up a 2nd round pick combined don’t equal what Jimmy Rollins did for the Phillies. All of these guys we gave up our 2nd round pick for either got hurt, were turned into salary dumps, played poorly or some combination of all these things.

        Obviously not every 2nd round pick hits either but by giving away the pick every other year you are precluding the possibility of getting a guy who will play real good and for a long period of time. Floyd played well when he wasn’t hurt. Pedro I would’ve signed but he only gave us one and a half years. Weathers and Cedeno salary dumps. Cameron became Nady who became Hernandez and Perez. Hernandez became Eddie Kunz and Scott Moviel, Kunz became Alan Dykstra.

        Good job with Hernandez cashing him in for two high picks but bad job going for ASAP bullpen help with the better of the two instead of the top talent guy who could be here for years and years. Moviel a big HS kid was a good idea but 2nd rounders bust and that’s why you need more of them, not less. All the rest of these #2 picks became guys that left behind nothing or nothing useful and that’s a huge reason why the best pitcher to make his debut with the Mets in the last 25 years is Bobby Jones and why we still don’t have even an average major league catcher in any level of our system and have to import needs at so many other areas like the pen, bench and even try to fit guys into positions they haven’t been groomed for.

        The Phillies with that one 2nd rounder that hit took care of SS for 15 years and most of it was top of the line play. Not HOF but quite a bit better than average. The combined time of all 6 #2 picks we’ve spent on FA’s (while they were on the field for us) is somewhere around 15 years and the play overall pretty spotty when you combine what we got out of all of them.

        That’s just one guy the Phillies got and the way things worked out with that pick but is undeniably a part of their recent success.

        • Intelligence is NOT judged using hindsight!
          And especially since they made two mistakes before they got one question right!

          Thats called a 33 on the TEST!
          A FAILING grade when judging intelligence!

  • And their is no attempt to trash Omar when I discuss events that occurred before he was even here or after he left. That is again only your interpretation and one that is very hard to understand how you arrive at such a conclusion.

    My point has always been that if you just concentrate on obtaining the very best high ceiling talent from all sources of the amateur ranks especially those players available in the first three rounds of the draft and IFA’s in the Caribbean, Central and South America, put in a couple of strategies in which to obtain a few extra picks here and there and not give any away until you are completely solid everywhere else both in main guys as well as your bench AND your AAA depth everything else will fall into place.

    If you have to constantly give away your 1st and 2nd rounders just in order to get your starters, go with scrubs as backups and have no AAA depth, your simply not in a position to give away those #1 and #2 picks. All your doing is building out the kitchen before the framings finished.

    My point has also been that outstanding talent can be picked up with big boom/big bust guys (like Howard) drafted after the 3rd round and that we should be going overslot to try to get as many of these types as possible in the later rounds because all you really need is 8 or so top high end talents on your team, in their prime all at once. Add in 8 other very capable starters the same age and a mix of guys you’ve traded prospects for, non tenders/rule 5/waiver wire and a free agent or two and your good for 5 years.

    Keep it going simply by replenishing the high ceiling amateurs coming into the system by continuing to go overslot, grabbing extra picks here and there and signing the best international amateurs to fund future needs or provide pieces to trade.

    Giving away your best draft choices every year doesn’t result in cohesive team play, frequently doesn’t even result in good play and inhibits your ability to win later by not infusing the farm system with top talent to bring up in 5 years. It hurts the teams chances now and later.

    • Sure you did, you took 25 years of met History and wrapped it up in a single package and labeled it MONKEYBALL!

      You posted this crap! I’m just calling you out on it!
      The guys who destroyed this team are the two guys you defend here!

      I have to wonder if you ARE McIlvane trying desperatly to clean up his bad NY Image!

      • Mcilvaine didn’t give away #1 and #2 picks or strip the farm of guys who later came up and played either good, very good or great. He took over a situation that was very similar to the situation we’re in right now. Not quite as dire because the farm does have a large quantity of talent and even though payroll was lowered considerably while Mcilvaine was here (94-mid season ’97) it was never thought to be out of necessity.

        He had bad contracts and guys with bad pr to move in Saberhagan, Bonilla and Coleman and made trades in which he gave up next to nothing to put out a credible effort. Gilkey, Lance Johnson, Rick Reed, John Olerud, guys that played well here and didn’t cost draft picks. He brought in other high end talent into the system like Everett, Ochoa, Alex Escobar, Endy Chavez, AJ Burnett, Terrence Long and Jay Payton and drafted guys the Wilpon’s didn’t give him the budget to sign even though the payroll under him was miniscule. Guys like David De Jesus, Garret Atkins, Jeremy Guthrie, Adam Rowand and provided the pieces for the Leiter and Piazza deals (or left those in place) as well as holding onto Alfonzo and Ordonez.

        He also, as Scouting Director with the Mets drafted HS or JC kids like Rafeal Palmeiro, John Olerud, Scott Erickson, John Wetland, Matt Williams and Roger Clemens. What’s not to like in a GM that can identify that kind of talent while it’s in HS?

        He had Generation K disintegrate and the players strike take parts of two seasons and inherited a 59-103 team and got it to 55-58 his first year and produced an 88 win team without borrowing anything from the future in just three years. Yeah he had some busts in the draft. He went after the elephant, hit a few and missed on a bunch but all you need to do is hit on 8 over a 4 year period and you can fill in around them with average quality and win consistently. Ten Aaron Heilman’s will never carry a team like one Todd Helton or Derrick Lee (players he drafted while with San Diego)

        His drafts in the early 80′s are what made the mid 80 Mets. He drafted Gooden, Aguilera, McDowell, Dykstra, Myers, Mitchell, Elster, Magadan and some or all of the pieces to get Carter, Knight, Hernandez and Ojeda and was involved in the decision making of those trades.

        Can’t see what’s not to like about his tenure here. Dykstra/Samuel, Mookie/Muscleman Inexplicable but he wasn’t the GM he was just a part of the process.

        Burnitz trade? Dallas Green hated Burnitz, not sure why but he got 3 starting pitchers of above average ability. Byrd, Dipoto, Mileki. Didn’t work out but it was still a credible effort IMO.

        Kent/Baerga deal? Terrible trade. In defense of the trade all I can say is Kent is one of those extremely rare players who’s slugging percentage went up and stayed up for 8 years beginning with his 30th birthday. Baerga is one of those rare players who’s slugging percentage went down and stayed down coinciding with his 26th birthday. Strange but bad trade. One of the 10 worst in franchise history.

        Overall I feel Mcilvaine would have obtained top flight talent if left alone to bring it here and if the owners had spent the money to sign the HS kids he drafted we wouldn’t have had so many crashes and disappointing seasons. We wouldn’t be scrambling around to “fill 8 holes” every off season. We’d have plenty of attractive prospects to talk about and could consequently talk to any team about any player and find the right guy, the right fit. Not just explain away yet another disastrous free agent signing with “well who else were we going to get to play _____?”

        Not trying to puff up his resume, just trying to correct some inaccuracies and point out how a different philosophy would have provided much better results than Monkeyball has.

        • Give them away?

          No Just Squandered them!

          Jay Payton Terrance Long and Paul Wilson?
          You the GREATS of Met History?

          I mean he had three picks in the fist round including the top overall and couldn’t get even ONE good player?

          He must be as smart as a Pakled or something!

          http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Pakled for those non geeks!

          Oh and lets not forget Ryan Jaroncyk and Rob Stratton!

          I mean with picks like that it would have been better if he gave them away for a free agent!

          • There are about 3 guys taken after Payton in the first 10 rounds that had better careers than he did. What can you do? Some drafts are better than others.

            Mcilvaine took a lot of big boom/big risk guys. The kind that bust more often but can carry a team for years when they hit. The kind of guy who we go after and pay a fortune to after their on their last legs and can no longer get it done or if they can it’s just for a year or so.

            Phillips busted on 14 out of 17 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks taking the safer surer shot and one of his “hits” was just a semi decent cross over reliever who had only two decent years.

            Those drafts are the one’s that necessitated Omar trading for and resigning Castillo, trading for Schneider and Church, Putz, going free agent twice for a closer, signing Alou and Bay and having to import an entire bench here every year.

            • “What can you do?”

              Simple don’t blow those picks on dogs!

              Please tell me how spending a 1st round pick on a waste who is NEVER going to help you is any better than giving it up for a player who is going to help you make the playoffs right away?

              Wasting on a scrub is MORE of a waste than giving it up for a Type A anyday!

              Look to me like he had THREE shots in the first round and BUSTED on all!

              At least Omar got year of Alou and Wagner for his picks, More years for K-Rod!

              Yet you tout McIlvane and chastise Omar!

              Shame Shame!

              • Free agents are as dodgy as 1st and 2nd round picks without the added downside of roster/trade/payroll flexibility or even the chance of a good 6-10 year run and the possibility of something being left behind when they move on.

                Often times you can’t get rid of a type A at any price and that prevents you from getting better now AND later.

                Bay, Perez, Castillo, Appier, Weathers, Cedeno and it’s not just us. Dunn, Figgins, Werth, Silva, Crawford, Pavano, Lowe, Zito, GMJ, Lackey, Soriano.

                Your much better off identifying the guy you want and trading 2 or 3 prospects for him and keeping your best picks. That way your not limited to just those who’s contracts are up, you can talk to every team about all of their players. The bigger the pool, the bigger the prize.

                Why not address the reason you have so many soft spots in your organization and work to fix that, rather than constantly just treating the symptom? And risk making yourself worse not just in the future but in the present as well?

                Monkeyball has been given an extended enough period of time to work around here and quite frankly if it weren’t for a Division rival having two mega fire sales we wouldn’t have any postseasons to show for it.

                Time to get real.

                • Spin it to your hearts content…SOMETHING is better than NOTHING!

                  Especially when your known to blow 3 1st round selections in one draft!

                  I mean even the damn law of averages says you get at least ONE good player!
                  And you don’t need to be a genius, especially when you have the top pick of EVERYONE in that draft!

                  Spin what you think the risk and longevity of a free agent but the bottomline SOMETHING is FAR FAR MORE than NOTHING!

                  SO McIlvane wasted and practically GAVE AWAY 3 1st round picks in his very first Draft!

                  Omar took 5 years to do that feat!
                  And he managed to get us to the playoffs in one year where McIlvane didn’t sniff them in 3!

  • Clearly the most thoughtful comment in this post was the last sentence…..if we let a superior player at a much more premium position go due to economics, wright is obviously a goner. There may be two or three shortstops in reyes’ class but at least 10 or 12 in Wrights. Good player, nice guy, but not for a team that can’t scrape two nickels together. He can help a good team win a championship some day….but that day is eons away in Metland. No one is coming to the park to pay and see David given his supporting cast. In fact made way more sense to trade him and keep Jose. And for al the Alderson lovers, he will be long gone before the Mets matter again….. He is Buds guy doing Buds dirty work and lying thru his teeth to Met fans every step of the way…….

    • Assuming health who are the 10-12 guys in Wrights class, just curious

  • David Wright for those 3 from the Phillies? Ha ha ha ha. Happy New Year.

  • I do agree that a lot of met fans seriously overvalue their own players.

  • As soon as someone says Placido Polanco is better then Wright they lose me. Clueless

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