Nov
16
2011

Reyes Has A Second Offer, It’s Not From Mets

Updated 11:50 PM

According to Jim Bowden of ESPN, Jose Reyes now has two legitimate offers, but Adam Rubin has confirmed the second offer is not from the Mets.

Tuesday morning, Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports reported that the Marlins had offered Reyes a six-year, $90 million deal.

Jon Heyman thinks the Mets are still in play, Andy Martino says it’s now unlikely.

Joel Sherman did reports that the Mets believe they will get an opportunity to match or beat any offer when he’s done shopping.

Original Post 10:00 AM

The Miami Marlins’ preliminary offer to Jose Reyes was for six years, $90 million a source has told Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports.

In addition to that going for them, the story cited a source saying the potential of playing in a warm climate, which would lessen the risk to his hamstrings, as well as playing for Ozzie Guillen, would be attractive to Reyes.

If this is true it disputes the prevailing theories that somehow Reyes was being offered a three year deal for high dollars which Matt Cerrone of MetsBlog had heard from his sources and reported.

As Steve Popper of The Record wrote this morning, “Reyes wants security and this is the time to secure a long term deal. If the Marlins starting point is truly these numbers it’s easy to see them bumping up to the place he wants to be.”

Yesterday, an MLB source told Joel Sherman of the New York Post, that Jose Reyes is targeting at least a $100 million deal.

“Until he gets a deal that starts with a one, he will not sign.”

More to come obviously…

Thoughts from Joe D. - 

Not shocking and not surprising at all. Definitely in the same ballpark that many of us including myself envisioned.

This a TREMENDOUS preliminary offer. Remember this is the starting point – the ground floor – it only goes up from here. Alderson wanted other teams to set the market, and boy he sure did.

The real question is, if this report from Rosenthal is true, would you want the Mets to top this offer?

By top it I mean go to a $19MM or $20MM average annual salary or add on an option year.

Would you want the Mets to top this offer?

I say yes.

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  • It’s interesting to me that this is now the THIRD offer reportedly given to Reyes…from the Marlins

    The first was some 3 year $25mil a year
    then yesterday it was 5 years 18/19 mil a year
    Now it’s 6 years/90 mil

    So either the reporting is terrible, or the Marlins are in fact bidding against themselves. I don’t recall reading ANY other offer in detail like the THREE we’ve read about Reyes. Do you?

    • I dont remember reporting on a five-year deal it sounds like something speculative another writer may have written, but the three year deal came from Matt Cerrone which I reported here on MMO and referred to a couple of times. He has been mentioning this three year deal for some time.

      • Hojo: It was in yesterday’s post about Alderson speaking with Reyes’ agents.

        According to ESPN Insider Buster Olney, the Miami Marlins are expected to sign Jose Reyes.

        “There is an expectation they will work something out with Reyes for something in the range of five years, $18-20M a year. They are seen as the team that’s going to be most aggressive and he certainly fits the style that Ozzie Guillen loves to play. He loves to have a team that runs the bases aggressively, puts pressure on opposing defenses. Reyes would be a centerpiece for that with Hanley Ramirez moving to another position.”

        Granted, I recognize Buster said “range of 5 years” but that stirs up a discussion of 5yr/18-20 mil a year.

        Making it 3 contract “offers” being discussed.

        I still can’t believe other top teams are sitting back and watching 3 Reyes’ contract reports and not picking up their phone and kicking the tires ya know? Either the Marlins are bidding against themselves or somebody will swoop in and this is long from over

        • Jessup remember two of the three contract offers you have read about are from the Mets not Reyes or the Marlins!
          Note it didn’t say an MLB source, FO Source, Miami source, or give any hint as to where the source might have gotten the information!

          And in the journalism business thats usually a clear sign that someone is trying to throw misinformation out there!

          You have to ask yourself who has something to gain by leaking that info if it were actually true?

          The Marlins? Hardly that would tell the league hey come jump into the pool the water is fine!
          Reyes? Hardly, It’s too low a number to be worth putting out there especially if you want a 20+ Mil deal.

          I Say it is the Mets who put it out there hoping to gauge how much of a firestorm there would be if Reyes actually took an offer like that to leave!
          If Fan reaction is that we should match that deal or jump all over it then they know they can’t let him walk without taking a major lashing from the fans. And if Fans say that deal is too much they know they will be able to get away with letting him go!

          They are the only ones who have any reason to put that type of number out there!
          And since they seem to be the ONLY source of the only other quotes and rumors involving Reyes my guess is the Mets put this one out there as well to try and ascertain what the bottomline they can get away with as a lowball offer before the fans backlash on them!

          • Metsie

            “Jessup remember two of the three contract offers you have read about are from the Mets not Reyes or the Marlins! Note it didn’t say an MLB source, FO Source, Miami source, or give any hint as to where the source might have gotten the information!”

            Directly from Ken Rosenthal’s report. “The Marlins made Reyes an offer last week, major league sources say, and also offered deals to at least three other free agents — first baseman Albert Pujols, left-hander Mark Buehrle and closer Ryan Madson.”

            So there’s one “MLB source” Proving your Mets theory above as having no proof.

            Jorge Sedano who started this whole rumor mill is not an employee of the Mets or a NY paper is he?

            I’m not saying it’s IMPOSSIBLE that the Mets are leaking info, I am saying you have no “proof” (since you love proof) and to flat out say that it has to be true is just wrong.

            • Oh Please Jessup that is just so weak!

              When oh When did the Mets stop being an MLB SOURCE?
              It is these feeble attempts at semantical arguments that start all the flames between you and I!

              • Metsie I can’t help it if you say

                “Note it didn’t say an MLB source”

                yet Ken Rosenthal cleary said

                “The Marlins made Reyes an offer last week, major league sources say”

                You can’t keep making up different ways to try and make your argument look true every time it’s proven wrong?

                You have absolutely no evidence that the Mets are the ones supplying Sedano, or any of these other Miami based columnists or Buster Olney or Ken Rosenthal. None. You’re just speculating because you want to assume every time Sandy Alderson takes a breath, he does it in a way that is wrong.

                Get over it. The “sources” could be anybody INCLUDING jose reyes’ agent.

                • And you have absoloutly no evidence they didn’t!

                  I didn’t SAY they did just that it is likely since they are the source of the only other two RUMORED deals we have talked about!
                  Maybe if you READ what I said instead of taking on the typical Donal Practice of flaming based on who posted the info regardless of what the post said you wouldn’t find yourself in these pissing matches all the time!

                  And regarding the SOURCE?
                  What does the first sentence in the article say?

                  “$90 million a source has told Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports.”

                  Mets happen to be an MLB source do you deny this?

                  Or is this another childish semantical bull session I have to have with you on a daily basis!

                  No wonder you and Donal agree on everything! Reading your posts I’m starting to believe my initial assessment of you was wrong and you ARE Donal just creating multi personalities to back yourself up!

            • And Sedano only said they made an offer which you profoundly called Bull but appears to be true!

              The only terms of a deal ever mentioned have BOTH come from the mets and while they used MLB sources for this one the Mets ARE an MLB source aren’t they?

    • Perhaps Team Reyes isn’t as enamored with the Marlins as everyone was reporting?

      Perhaps he really does want to see what everyone else has to offer?

    • The 3 year deal cerrone reported came from a NY MET source not anyone with any intimate knowledge of what the marlins offered.

      • That was laughable.

  • That can’t be right. All this hoopla and they offer $15m/year?

    According to certain parties here, that was a slap in the face.

    • According to me it is.. but at least they’re willing to go 6 years… which the mets offer allegedly was to be around60 milllion …

    • First of all are we really supposed to believe that Reyes has a lesser shot of hurting his hamstring in Florida because it’s warmer, didn’t he have pull in August. Plus if the Marlins think Hanley is a head case now, wait until he’s playing a position he doesn’t want to be at. Oh I forgot Ozzie is gonna make it all work, Yeah because he’s not a head case himself.

    • 15M IS LUDICROUS ONCE U CONSIDER HIS SALARY FROM HIS LAST DEAL WAS 11M & THATS FROM A CONTRACT MOST EXPERTS EVALUATED AS “UNDERVALUED”. TO CONSIDER HE’S WAITED ALL THESE YRS(7) TO NET AN INCREASE OF MERELY 4M IS ALMOST AS LAUGHABLE AN INSINCERE OFFER TO PUJOLS FOR 9Y @ SUB 200M DESPITE FL’S LACK OF LOCAL INCOME TAXES(APPROX 15% (.1415) IN NYC/NYS)

      MOSTLY THESE ‘TOKEN’ OFFERS WERE TARGETED MORE TOWARDS ACCOMODATING THE UNION AS LORIA CAN NOW COUNTER THAT THEY ARE ATTEMPTING TO BE BIG SPENDERS & HIS REJECTIONS ARE NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY.

      AS IT’S MU UNDERSTANDING THAT MLB DIDSABILITY INSURANCE IS UNAVAILABLE FOR TERMS EXTENDING BEYOND 5Y I WOULD THINK A WINNING OFFER OF 5Y/100-110M+ A CLUB OPTION WHICH GUARANTEES ONLY IF REYES GAMES PLAYED EXCEEDS 75% OVER THE FIRST 5Y COULD CERTAINLY BE CONSIDERED “A WINNING ENTRY” IN THE REYES SWEEPSTAKES.
      NB FROM HIS DEBUT TO THE COMPLETEION OF LAST SEASON REYES’ PGAME PARTICIPATION RATE WAS 72% A VERY REPRESENTATRIVE PERCENTAGE WHEN MEASURUING AGAINST HISTORICAL DATA FOR DYNAMIC, GAME CHANGING BASERUNNERS. TAKONG OUT CONTRACT DISABILITY INSURANCE HAS TO BE CONSIDERED THE MOST PRUDENT OPTIONAL EXPENDATURE WHENEVER A DYNAMIC BASERUNNER IS UNDER CONTRACT, CONSIDERED AN ACCEPTABLE ‘COST OF DOING BUSINESS’ CERTAINLY IS A MITIGATOR OF THE CONCERN OVER FIN’L EXPOSURE CAUSED BY LONG D/L STINTS AS FOR PRODUCTIVITY LOSS, LOSING REYES FOR THOSE D/L PERIODS IS NOWHERE NEAR AS EGREGOUS AS LOSING HIM TOTALLY & COMPLETELY TO A COMPETITOR WITHIN THE DIVISION.

      FOR THOSE ARGUING AGAINST RESIGNING REYES, THE D/L INSURANCE COUNTERS THEIT FINANCIAL GRIEVANCE WHILE HAVING TEJADA PLAY SS IN HIS MISSED GAMES ONLY CETAINLY IS MORE PRODUCTIVE THAN TEJASDA @ SS 100% OF THE TIME; THUS THE ARGUEMENT CITING LOSS OF PRODUCTION DUE TO D/L IS LUDICROUS SINCE HE WON BATTING CROWN DESPITE 2 STINTS

      PERSONALLY, I SEE ABSOLUTELYU NO LOGICAL REASON FOR LETTING HIM DEPASRT FOR HEALTH REASONS AND CONSIDERING THE PAYROLL WITH HIM @ 22M IS STILL WITYHING TYHE >100M GUIDELINE FRED HAS LAID OUT THE OVERALL EXPENSE EFFECT ON PAYROLL IS MOOT AS IT’S 90-100M WITH HIM & 70-80M WITHOUT HIM. THE ONLY LOGICAL RATIONALE FOR LETTING REYES EWALK IS IF THE CONTRACT DURATION REACHES 7Y+ BEYOND THE CAPABILITY TO CLOSE THE GAP FROM 5Y GUARANTEED WITYH EARNED OPTIONS. THUS PRECLUDING TYHE ABILITY TO INSURE AGAINST FIN’L LOSS DUE TO INJURY.
      UNTIL SUCH AN OFFER APPEARS ALL EFFORTS SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON RETAINING THE MOST DYNAMIC PLAYER IN NYC

  • Just an FYI, I know some of you care about draft pick comp and if its the marlins it may not matter but Joel Sherman posted this

    2 execs tell me #Mets have been assured Type-A draft compensation for Reyes is not going away this offseason even if CBA eliminates going forward. Expectation is that Type-B compensation will be eliminated this offseason and maybe a few Type-As who really shouldn’t be categorized that way like Saito, Kelly Johnson, etc

    • Not if the marlins sign him!
      Thier 1st rounder is protected!

      • remember when I said “if its the marlins it may not matter” ?

        • Yep and if they don’t change the comp proccess it may not matter either!

          Pointless post really as the TRUTH right now is the team who is hottest on Reyes will not have to give up anything more than a 2nd rounder!

          And until they change the rules or if they don’t change and someone like the brewers or Phillies sign him the picks we get are not all that much better than what we are getting from the Marlins!

  • Let me just add that 6/$90 is a starting point and a preliminary offer only as I worded in my post. That means it usually goes up from there. Reyes will get his $100+ million and possibly $120+ million.

    • It may not even be the starting point HoJo it could be just the base and there is a signing bonus involved that would bring the total package up to 20 Mil per!

      Since it did not give any hint to WHERE the source came from (Marlins/Reyes/Ken’s Cousin’s Gardener) it is very likely not the complete picture.

      The devil is always in the details.

      It could be:

      1 – He has a deal for 15 Mil per plus signing bonus or incentives can put him up above 20 Mil per
      2 – Could be it’s a 5 year deal with a 10 Mil buyout option for year 6, (20 Mil per plus 10 Mil buyout or for higher than 25 Mil Salary)
      3 – Could even be the three year deal the Mets said it was at 20 Mil per with two team option years.

      The deals are all over the place because there are a lot of sources making statements that have nothing to do with the negotiations.

      Mets saying it was a 3 year 20 Mil per deal
      Then the suggestion by them it is a 5 year deal
      Now this rumor from an unnamed unhinted at source!

      If the number given wasn’t so low I would suspect Reyes’ Agent released it!

      But since the Mets seem to be the biggest source of news on Reyes I suspect this rumored deal ALSO came from them!
      Not because they know what Reyes was offered but they are trying to gauge what the fan reaction would be if he were allowed go at that number!

      • Metsie “But since the Mets seem to be the biggest source of news on Reyes I suspect this rumored deal ALSO came from them!”

        I guess where I am confused is how I can question all of these sources as being obscure. You reply that they are all Miami based, and now you’re saying the biggest source seems to be the Mets?

        Do you have proof the METS are the ones leaking this info? Why wouldn’t the Marlins have more of a motive to leak the info? they are the ones trying to gain national attention, sell season tickets to a new park etc.

        • Jessup you yourself have said it in a post above?

          Who quoted the three year deal? Sandy Alderson!
          Who quoted the 5 year 18-20 Mil deal? Sandy Alderson!

          Now this!
          I can’t say for sure it was the Mets who leaked this I’m just pointing out that the mets are the only ones who gain by that info being out there!

          Reyes sure doesn’t do you think knowing this that the Brewers are going to go about 20 Mil per?
          The Marlins sure have no interest in announcing they have a steal of a deal for Reyes that could easily be topped by anyone!

          And considering the biggest source of past Reyes Contract offers is the Mets and they have the most to gain by keeping the Bids on Reyes low, what does that tell you about this rumor?

          Personally I hope the mets DID do it because it’s smart for them to be throwing mis information out there if they really want to resign Reyes at a reasonable amount!

  • If this is their offer, the Mets should go 5 yrs $100M. There is a lot of speculation, but no one knows how far the Mets are willing to go.
    Reyes must be smart though; does he really think he will play for the Marlins for the length of that contract? Just ask Carlos Delgado, Al Leiter, Dennis Cook, et al.

    • I agree 5yrs/$100mill seems like the deal Reyes should get from the Mets.

    • Yes, 5/100 should be the Mets offer. If he wants more, move on. That would suck though.

  • 15 million per year sounds like the Marlins who already have Ramirez (and who is not going to be happy switching positions) are not going to get involved in a bidding war for Jose Reyes.

    It is my contention that if the Mets offered bigger bucks for fewer years with extension options he just might want to stay in New York. The Marlins may have placed a higher priority in trying to sign Albert Pujols instead.

    • Heyman reported yesterday that the Marlins aren’t serious at all about signing Pujols and it’s just something ‘silly’ or close to that type of description.

      That sort of tells me the Marlins marketing ploy this off season is to spread the word their talking to every big ticket FA trying to drum up business for their new park.

      • thank you srt! what I have been saying all along!

        The Marlins MAY sign one of these guys. It’s not impossible but when you open a brand new park with a fan base that is historically NOT supportive… how do you sell season tickets?

        New marketing, new logo…. new stadium…. new manager… now public attempts at “changing their ways” and talking to every high priced free agent?

        I guarantee these reports are selling season tickets whether at a high medium or low level, they are selling features.

        Again they may sign one or some of them, but why is it that ONLY the Marlins have been reported to meet and make offers to these guys? Especially when it just so happens they unveil their new look?

        Nobody else wants to talk to Pujols or Reyes? Really?

  • 5 years $20m per with a team option for a 6th.

  • even if alderson throws 6/100 and ends up 6/110 i’ll be happy.. but…………….

  • Jose Reyes is a great player when he’s on the field. The problem is keeping him on the field. He plays now about 60% of the time.

    If Jose were the Jose of 2005-2008, it would be a no brainer. But its’ not, so I don’t think a prudent GM should offer more than four years. If Jose gets a huge contract, more power to him. I don’t envy him and I wish him the best of luck. I’d be surprised if Sandy makes the gargantuan offer.

  • All I know is one thing, if the Mets dont try to beat this offer then this GM is only here to slash payroll to shreds. I’m not saying he has to win the Reyes sweepstakes, but this is an offer any New York market team should easily beat. If we dont, then this regime has no interest in winning anything only putting more cash in the Wilponzies pockets.

  • I know he’s gonna love playing before those tremendous crowds of three-four thousand. Sure that will pump him up!

  • Alex: Thanks for reading!

    • ohhh, were you that idiot!?!? ahh, silly me, should’ve known better..

      • If you’d like to discuss my blog, I’d welcome you to comment on mine rather than soil Hojo’s reporting with your attacks. Thanks!

        • i am not discussing anything with you.. i was just stating the obvious, i look forward your crap about how it was the right thing by alderson to let reyes go.. if you’re already writing articles about how is ok for reyes to go to miami instead of NEW YORK shows what type of fan you are.. never seen anybody like you, you LOVE the braves and their prospect, praise players from other organization, yet anything met related that doesn’t include somebody you like, wright eamus etc than you don’t care one bit for.. i apologise to hojo for even comment on his thread about your garbage, i do not see how you can call yourself a met fan, let alone reyes fan as you claim to say in your little crappy profile, you’re a liar and a little ***** who i do not understand why joe d even lets you be here if all you do is put down anything met related…..

          • probably worth noting that Kimbrel won rookie of the year and dillon gee didn’t get a single vote. While I disagree with Gee not getting a vote, I pretty much called that back in the summer and that is where your obsession with me loving the braves came from. I guess the baseball writers of america love the braves too huh?

            By the way “i am not discussing anything with you”

            You kind of are. So lets take this to my post since your problem is with what I wrote and not Hojo. Thanks

            • CRAIG KIMBREL IS THE BEST CLOSER IN THE GAME… that was my problem with you… funny how you disappear when he choked that last game to complete the BRAVES collapse… FUNNY met fan are you, probably were crying like the b**** you are when they choked away the lead.. pathetic!

              • you’re still going at this? I said he was the best closer in the NL and at the time I said it he was ranked #1 in the Rolaids Reliever standings for the NL. Mariano is the best closer in the game. Kimbrel was the best in the NL in 2011 until September. Yet he still won Rookie of the Year.

                I’m not sure why you are fixated on Kimbrel. Tell me right now you wouldn’t want him on the Mets?

                • what kind of players are hose alex? How do you know who I liked in 2010? you were banned from the site for the majority of the 2010 baseball season…. what does Carlos Marmol have to do with anything? Are you a cubs fan now? Should I call you a cubs fan?

                  BTW nobody asked me in 2010 about Marmol, probably because there was nobody running around screaming that he is no good since everybody knew he was.

                  I would have gladly accepted with open arms Carlos Marmol circa 2010.

                • just STHU, you weren’t this googoo gaga over marmol in his 2010 season, it seems you only like cetain kind of ballplayers.

  • I don’t think any team values Reyes as a 20MM or more per year player but more like 16-18MM per year including probably Sandy. If that contract offer from the Marlins is true, the Marlins are going to have to subtract 1 year from that offer plus add a 5MM signing bonus and then Reyes will probably sign with the Marlins for 5 guaranteed yrs. and a guaranteed 95MM.

  • if the offer to beat is 6/90, that is a no brainer to beat.

    Offer it as 5/90, with a vesting option (games played?) for year 6. That way he gets at least as much money in fewer years. And a higher annual salary than a 6/100 deal.

  • Match or make slight better offer, 6/$100ish is fine..i think Mets have a pretty good situation as even if the injury bug continues w Reyes, we have Tejada cheap to replace and develop..Reyes can dominate a playoff series, he’s 28 so in 6 years he’s borderline still in his prime, he’s a homegrown Met im a fan of him and his game..sign him and lets the second half of the Wright/Reyes era begin…

  • Side note- If the Marlins sign Reyes and Madson or Bell as their closer, the Mets would only get a compensatory sandwich pick after the 1st rd. and only the Marlins 3rd round draft pick because both Madson and Bell have a higher Elias draft compensation rating than Reyes.

    • Marlins are committed to Nunez as their closer.

      • Is the artist formally known as Nunez allowed to play ball?

        • Ha! I saw the visa issues, but I didn’t know about the assumed name. Wow, that is bad. Like, get put on a government watch list bad.

          • That’s why I thought the chatter about the Marlins looking for a closer had come about. Oh well… Hopefully he’ll clear up those issues and get to play again (speaking as a human). Then again, I hope he never plays again (speaking as a met fan). ;)

  • Yes.

  • This is just getting ridiculous, one idiot is now posting an article about how the marlins are a better fit for reyes than us.. this is just amazing, the guy is already conceding the fact that the guy he portrayed as the savior of this franchise sandy alderson will not sign reyes and is already starting his campaign of “why it was a good move by sandy” by using those articles as excuse, is pathetic and amazing how this site who had good writers who cared about the mets and winning has just now turned to “let’s allowed whoever to write crap and post it”.. is a real shame, but knowing that guy i knew it was just a matter of time till he started popping up with articles making comments like this: “Whether we as fans like it or not. Miami is a better fit for Jose Reyes than Queens, and even if the money was the same, I wouldn’t blame Reyes if he chose to take his talents to South Beach”
    basically, he’s getting ready to live without reyes while defending his saber idol sandy by saying well, miami was a better fit anyways ..
    next up from that same guy is a list of draft picks we might consider with the sandwich pick we’ll get for reyes in the next year’s draft.. amazing….

    • ohhh, were you that idiot!?!? ahh, silly me, should’ve known better..

  • The Marlins are not committed to the ex Leo Nunez or Juan Oviedo who is on the restricted list as their closer next season. Oviedo would be due app. 6MM in arb. for next season and the Marlins are looking to improve a couple of areas on their club- 3B,CF LHSP, bullpen and not just bring in Reyes.

  • I think the $15M a year definitely should be topped but I don’t think the 6 years should be. At least not on a guaranteed scale.

  • Didn’t Jose pull his hamstring in july and august?

    • so he sould have no trouble pullling it in Miami.

    • Ya. Funny thing, baseball tends to be played in warm weather.

    • According to DiComo he tweets,

      Anthony DiComo
      When Reyes first pulled hammy, it was 82 degrees in NYC. Second time was 86 degrees. So no, I don’t think weather was a major factor. #Mets

      twitter.com/#!/AnthonyDiComo

  • What can 20 mil a year buy? Maybe a Madsen and a Grady Sizemore and an available starting pitcher (can’t think of any at the moment-having a Rick Perry moment) or it can buy Jose Reyes. So we have good options for the 20 mil.

  • 6 years, $90 million? I’m sorry, but I think it would be smart for the Mets NOT to top that. 6 years is too rich for my blood, and offering Reyes $100+ million? That’s really risky with the hamstring issues he’s had the last few seasons.

    • Hitman, how does this sound? Guarantee 5 years, $90 million (more annually), then have a $20 million 6th year option that’s mutual, but the club’s side vests. Say, if Reyes hits 600 PA in the final year, or 1,100 over the final two (arbitrary figures), the the Mets are on the hook. If he doesn’t hit those marks, the Mets are off the hook However, if it does vest on the Mets half, Reyes can decline and hit free agency a full year earlier if he wishes.

      If the option vests, it means Reyes is healthy, and his talent is worth the money. And if it does vest and he also exercises his half, then his final deal is 6 years/$110 million, which seems right now to be an offer that would blow him out of the water.

  • I don’t know my fellow Met fans but doesn’t this entire situation seem somewhat grotesque in light of our high unemployment rate and miilions who have lost their homes. I know this is not a social commentary site but this entire greed thing going on with these professional athletes is really turning me off. Yes they do a lot of charity work but the fan still has to pay the freight. It just doesn’t seem at this point in our history to be so damn greedy. That’s all I have to say on this but I am sad over what is happening. This doesn’t excuse the greed of the owners either. Ultimately it’s the fan who gets it you know where.

  • I don’t get it. Jose Reyes is supposedly the best player in baseball on this site, but the league has determined that Ryan Madson brings back more compensation if he is signed by another team?

  • I wonder who the mystery team is that made a concrete offer to Reyes? it certainly wasn’t the Mets. I really see the Marlins bidding against themselves for Reyes like the Mets did for Jason Bay 2 years ago and Oliver Perez 3 years ago.

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