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	<title>Comments on: Morning Grind: Mets Will Regret Letting Nick Evans Slip Away</title>
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		<title>By: baby al</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/morning-grind-mets-will-regret-letting-nick-evans-slip-away.html#comment-206144</link>
		<dc:creator>baby al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[aa,before geniusalderson can flush a toilet in his office he has to get signed documenation from freddye wilponzie. water costs money.that&#039;s how much in charge i know he is not.he is like every other met gm ....a shot load.his other claim to fame is his oakland team was ground zero for steriods.how a man with such a high baseball iq can miss that going on is hard to fathom.lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aa,before geniusalderson can flush a toilet in his office he has to get signed documenation from freddye wilponzie. water costs money.that&#8217;s how much in charge i know he is not.he is like every other met gm &#8230;.a shot load.his other claim to fame is his oakland team was ground zero for steriods.how a man with such a high baseball iq can miss that going on is hard to fathom.lol</p>
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		<title>By: METS62FAN</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/morning-grind-mets-will-regret-letting-nick-evans-slip-away.html#comment-205979</link>
		<dc:creator>METS62FAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[UNFORTUNATELY FOR NICK, HW DIDN&#039;T HAVE A SPECIFIC SKILL SET WE NEEDED WITH ANY DESPERATION. 1B &amp; CORNER OF. IS THERE A MORE POPULATED PAIR OF POSITIONS IN OUR FRANCHISE?OH WAIT, HE ALSO PLAYED A LITTLE 3B, NOW THERE&#039;S A HIGH DEMAND NEED AS HE&#039;D LANGUISH BEHIND WRIGHT, MURPHY &amp; THE BALLBOY,lol.
NICK LIKELY BURNED A NUMBER OF BRIDGES WHEN HE SULKED HIS WAY OUT OF AAA DOWN TO AA AFTER HIS FIRST ST FAILURE TO MAKE THE CUT. 

IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ALL 3 GUYS DEPLOYED IN THAT TUFFELSHUFFLE BRAIN STORM CONCEPT OF THE 3 RING CIRCUS WITH CARP, MURPHY &amp; EVANS ALL ROTATING DIZZILY FROM 1B TO 3B TO LF AS ALL 3  FAILED TO LAND SOLIDLY IN FLUSHING. THE MOST SOLID IS MURPH WHOSE FOOTHOLD IS UNDETERMINED.

NICK, STRIKES ME AS A POOR COPY OF MAGADAN FROM TYHE 80s AND MORE THAN LIKELY WITH THE CURRENT FO HE&#039;S NUMBER 41 ON THE DEPTH CHART.  CERTAINLY NOT ABSOLUTELY MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY BEFORE HIM.

POST CRITICIZES KEEPING HAIRSTON &amp; EMAUS OVER EVANS LAST APRIL. THE QUESTION IS CAN NICK PLAY 2B OR CF?  2 POSITIONS DEPERATE FOR DEPTH AT THE TIME.

IMO, AS I&#039;VE ALWAYS LIKED NICK, I ESTIMATE HIS BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS HE DID A LOT OF THINGS WELL; BUT NOTHING OUTSTANDINGLY WELL AND THERE WERE PLENTY OF OTHER  OPTIONS(DAVIS,MURPHY,DUDA) THAT DID NEARLY EVERYTHING BETTER.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UNFORTUNATELY FOR NICK, HW DIDN&#8217;T HAVE A SPECIFIC SKILL SET WE NEEDED WITH ANY DESPERATION. 1B &amp; CORNER OF. IS THERE A MORE POPULATED PAIR OF POSITIONS IN OUR FRANCHISE?OH WAIT, HE ALSO PLAYED A LITTLE 3B, NOW THERE&#8217;S A HIGH DEMAND NEED AS HE&#8217;D LANGUISH BEHIND WRIGHT, MURPHY &amp; THE BALLBOY,lol.<br />
NICK LIKELY BURNED A NUMBER OF BRIDGES WHEN HE SULKED HIS WAY OUT OF AAA DOWN TO AA AFTER HIS FIRST ST FAILURE TO MAKE THE CUT. </p>
<p>IT WOULD APPEAR THAT ALL 3 GUYS DEPLOYED IN THAT TUFFELSHUFFLE BRAIN STORM CONCEPT OF THE 3 RING CIRCUS WITH CARP, MURPHY &amp; EVANS ALL ROTATING DIZZILY FROM 1B TO 3B TO LF AS ALL 3  FAILED TO LAND SOLIDLY IN FLUSHING. THE MOST SOLID IS MURPH WHOSE FOOTHOLD IS UNDETERMINED.</p>
<p>NICK, STRIKES ME AS A POOR COPY OF MAGADAN FROM TYHE 80s AND MORE THAN LIKELY WITH THE CURRENT FO HE&#8217;S NUMBER 41 ON THE DEPTH CHART.  CERTAINLY NOT ABSOLUTELY MORE VALUABLE THAN ANY BEFORE HIM.</p>
<p>POST CRITICIZES KEEPING HAIRSTON &amp; EMAUS OVER EVANS LAST APRIL. THE QUESTION IS CAN NICK PLAY 2B OR CF?  2 POSITIONS DEPERATE FOR DEPTH AT THE TIME.</p>
<p>IMO, AS I&#8217;VE ALWAYS LIKED NICK, I ESTIMATE HIS BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS HE DID A LOT OF THINGS WELL; BUT NOTHING OUTSTANDINGLY WELL AND THERE WERE PLENTY OF OTHER  OPTIONS(DAVIS,MURPHY,DUDA) THAT DID NEARLY EVERYTHING BETTER.</p>
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		<title>By: Kay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[...........and this guy says I&#039;m a crazy woman,look at my posts.   As if, anyone gives a rats butt what transpired between Bayonne and Des months ago.    When did this become a teenage site?   Grow up already...............]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..and this guy says I&#8217;m a crazy woman,look at my posts.   As if, anyone gives a rats butt what transpired between Bayonne and Des months ago.    When did this become a teenage site?   Grow up already&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alwayzamazin</title>
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		<dc:creator>alwayzamazin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 05:52:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just please no more Rocket Boy]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just please no more Rocket Boy</p>
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		<title>By: alwayzamazin</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/morning-grind-mets-will-regret-letting-nick-evans-slip-away.html#comment-205966</link>
		<dc:creator>alwayzamazin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 05:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;japan&#039;s jeter&quot;  lol!  prolly selling cars over there too...or deodorant like mo...lol
don&#039;t u think sandy is in charge?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;japan&#8217;s jeter&#8221;  lol!  prolly selling cars over there too&#8230;or deodorant like mo&#8230;lol<br />
don&#8217;t u think sandy is in charge?</p>
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		<title>By: alwayzamazin</title>
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		<dc:creator>alwayzamazin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 05:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol what is a sinjo and i hope he won&#039;t be our new ace?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol what is a sinjo and i hope he won&#8217;t be our new ace?</p>
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		<title>By: alwayzamazin</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/morning-grind-mets-will-regret-letting-nick-evans-slip-away.html#comment-205963</link>
		<dc:creator>alwayzamazin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 05:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[well written, Clayton.  I am very sad to see our guys move on, and wish Nick the best!  i hate to see us let go of guys we like and have been good players in exchange for....who knows...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well written, Clayton.  I am very sad to see our guys move on, and wish Nick the best!  i hate to see us let go of guys we like and have been good players in exchange for&#8230;.who knows&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: baby al</title>
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		<dc:creator>baby al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 04:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[some japanese guy ,when introduced to ny by freddye wilponzie,was described as japan&#039;s jeter.if he could throw a ball and play for 10 dollars an hour freddye is game.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some japanese guy ,when introduced to ny by freddye wilponzie,was described as japan&#8217;s jeter.if he could throw a ball and play for 10 dollars an hour freddye is game.</p>
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		<title>By: baby al</title>
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		<dc:creator>baby al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 04:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[des, if freddye wilponzie could he would cut the payroll down and collect some of that luxury tax monies.freddye probally has been jealous of pittsburg and kc all these years.as far as jeffye goes he will swear yes to anything ole freddye says(as long as he stays in the will).the other son is probally scouting in japan for his next sinjo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>des, if freddye wilponzie could he would cut the payroll down and collect some of that luxury tax monies.freddye probally has been jealous of pittsburg and kc all these years.as far as jeffye goes he will swear yes to anything ole freddye says(as long as he stays in the will).the other son is probally scouting in japan for his next sinjo.</p>
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		<title>By: baby al</title>
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		<dc:creator>baby al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 04:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[joe, just as there is a thin line between love and hate when it comes to what  the wilponzie family has done to this franchise....... there is a thin line between hate and more hate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe, just as there is a thin line between love and hate when it comes to what  the wilponzie family has done to this franchise&#8230;&#8230;. there is a thin line between hate and more hate.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Diaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Diaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 03:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ummm no I&#039;m not missing or ignoring any points.I simply ignore any posts made by you so I have no idea what you are debating but I asked Donal that question because he seems to believe Murphy was penciled into the lineup over Evans and I&#039;m pretty sure that Evans was in the minor leagues when Murphy was getting the majority of the starts at 1B.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm no I&#8217;m not missing or ignoring any points.I simply ignore any posts made by you so I have no idea what you are debating but I asked Donal that question because he seems to believe Murphy was penciled into the lineup over Evans and I&#8217;m pretty sure that Evans was in the minor leagues when Murphy was getting the majority of the starts at 1B.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellsbury - now there&#039;s a guy I wish we had patrolling CF for the Mets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellsbury &#8211; now there&#8217;s a guy I wish we had patrolling CF for the Mets.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome back, baby al.  I agree with most of what you&#039;re saying.  But don&#039;t overlook the minimum salary scale.  It&#039;s a great equalizer for the cheapie owners you don&#039;t like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome back, baby al.  I agree with most of what you&#8217;re saying.  But don&#8217;t overlook the minimum salary scale.  It&#8217;s a great equalizer for the cheapie owners you don&#8217;t like.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Baby Al where have you been man? I see your disdain for Mets ownership remains unwavering, lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baby Al where have you been man? I see your disdain for Mets ownership remains unwavering, lol</p>
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		<title>By: larman</title>
		<link>http://metsmerizedonline.com/2011/11/morning-grind-mets-will-regret-letting-nick-evans-slip-away.html#comment-205932</link>
		<dc:creator>larman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This guy never had a chance, once again the mets let go of good talent that will bite them again, they do this all the time. when will they wake up and realize what they have. I feel bad because he be productive and put up numbers for a team that will allow him to play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy never had a chance, once again the mets let go of good talent that will bite them again, they do this all the time. when will they wake up and realize what they have. I feel bad because he be productive and put up numbers for a team that will allow him to play.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Vinnie.  Good points all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Vinnie.  Good points all.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is his adjusted numbers:

2008: 21.2 UZR(2nd best in the league among OF&#039;s)

2009: -9.7 UZR(3rd worst in the league among CF&#039;s)

2011:  15.6 UZR(best in the league among CF&#039;s)

I didn&#039;t include 2010 because he was hurt almost the enitre year. For two years they say he&#039;s the one of the best, then one year they have him as one of the worst - they just change so much year to year. So, they can&#039;t be trusted if we are talking about a guy who hasn&#039;t played one full year at 1B, like Murphy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is his adjusted numbers:</p>
<p>2008: 21.2 UZR(2nd best in the league among OF&#8217;s)</p>
<p>2009: -9.7 UZR(3rd worst in the league among CF&#8217;s)</p>
<p>2011:  15.6 UZR(best in the league among CF&#8217;s)</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t include 2010 because he was hurt almost the enitre year. For two years they say he&#8217;s the one of the best, then one year they have him as one of the worst &#8211; they just change so much year to year. So, they can&#8217;t be trusted if we are talking about a guy who hasn&#8217;t played one full year at 1B, like Murphy.</p>
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		<title>By: Des</title>
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		<dc:creator>Des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bayonne --- 

1) First answer my questions.  You didn&#039;t because you&#039;re just a person with an outsized mouth who is afraid of numbers and most anything new. I&#039;ll be waiting for your answers.

2) Regarding the quotes (as I explained at the time) I  had many different posts on MMO.  As usual, you seemed confused.  I could have repeated each and every entry.  To make it simple enough for your brain, I put together my views, but I didn&#039;t ask you to read each separate post. That&#039;s why I included the quotes.  So what do you do?  You accuse me of some sort of plagiarism, when I was trying to give you the heart of my views in a distilled manner.  You repeatedly misconstrue the intentions of those who you don&#039;t understand and can&#039;t bully.  Really, I think your just full of bluster and nonsense.  I&#039;ve learned over time that you don&#039;t have the skills to debate a subject and still respect the other person and the disparate views.  You&#039;re a bore, a bully and someone who tries to beat the other person down. That&#039;s a working definition of an emotional misfit. Really you should just try to understand why someone thinks differently, but that is beyond your limited capability.

3) I think the date was Oct. 3, 2010 when the New York Times had an article about Jerry Manuel going back to California with the intention of coaching baseball at a small college.  When I said then that he was taking a plane back to the Sacremento area, you took a cheap shot and said I didn&#039;t know that Jerry was taking a plane.  In my mind, the mode of transportation was irrelevant, but that he was going home was the important news.  In fact the writer of the article, George Vecsey, wrote what I relayed to MMO readers, but for some inane reason you got annoyed. You correctly pointed out, as I had elsewhere, that Jerry had said much the same in 2007.  So what if he did?  Can&#039;t a person reiterate a previous view?  Does that make it inappropriate or wrong?  It was presented as current news in the October, 2010 sports pages.  If there was any misinformation that bothered you for some godforsaken reason, you should have taken it up with the NY Times.  

I really think you have some interpersonal and emotional issues.  Get help.  You repeatedly argue the most asinine issues and you repeatedly claim to be an expert.  Ha ha.  For example, recently you said you and your friends could do a better job than Sandy.  That&#039;s another silly claim by a guy who couldn&#039;t even write a formal job description. 

Finally, I don&#039;t expect you to understand what I&#039;ve just written, just as you haven&#039;t understood it the few other times I&#039;ve explained it.  But that&#039;s your challenge.  Surprise me and show some comprehension.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bayonne &#8212; </p>
<p>1) First answer my questions.  You didn&#8217;t because you&#8217;re just a person with an outsized mouth who is afraid of numbers and most anything new. I&#8217;ll be waiting for your answers.</p>
<p>2) Regarding the quotes (as I explained at the time) I  had many different posts on MMO.  As usual, you seemed confused.  I could have repeated each and every entry.  To make it simple enough for your brain, I put together my views, but I didn&#8217;t ask you to read each separate post. That&#8217;s why I included the quotes.  So what do you do?  You accuse me of some sort of plagiarism, when I was trying to give you the heart of my views in a distilled manner.  You repeatedly misconstrue the intentions of those who you don&#8217;t understand and can&#8217;t bully.  Really, I think your just full of bluster and nonsense.  I&#8217;ve learned over time that you don&#8217;t have the skills to debate a subject and still respect the other person and the disparate views.  You&#8217;re a bore, a bully and someone who tries to beat the other person down. That&#8217;s a working definition of an emotional misfit. Really you should just try to understand why someone thinks differently, but that is beyond your limited capability.</p>
<p>3) I think the date was Oct. 3, 2010 when the New York Times had an article about Jerry Manuel going back to California with the intention of coaching baseball at a small college.  When I said then that he was taking a plane back to the Sacremento area, you took a cheap shot and said I didn&#8217;t know that Jerry was taking a plane.  In my mind, the mode of transportation was irrelevant, but that he was going home was the important news.  In fact the writer of the article, George Vecsey, wrote what I relayed to MMO readers, but for some inane reason you got annoyed. You correctly pointed out, as I had elsewhere, that Jerry had said much the same in 2007.  So what if he did?  Can&#8217;t a person reiterate a previous view?  Does that make it inappropriate or wrong?  It was presented as current news in the October, 2010 sports pages.  If there was any misinformation that bothered you for some godforsaken reason, you should have taken it up with the NY Times.  </p>
<p>I really think you have some interpersonal and emotional issues.  Get help.  You repeatedly argue the most asinine issues and you repeatedly claim to be an expert.  Ha ha.  For example, recently you said you and your friends could do a better job than Sandy.  That&#8217;s another silly claim by a guy who couldn&#8217;t even write a formal job description. </p>
<p>Finally, I don&#8217;t expect you to understand what I&#8217;ve just written, just as you haven&#8217;t understood it the few other times I&#8217;ve explained it.  But that&#8217;s your challenge.  Surprise me and show some comprehension.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 00:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I forgot to say that they made changes to UZR in Fenway since that Article was written - So that&#039;s why Ellsbury&#039;s UZR is different in that Article than if you looked at it now......but Ellsbury is still rated poorly in 09, so my point still stands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot to say that they made changes to UZR in Fenway since that Article was written &#8211; So that&#8217;s why Ellsbury&#8217;s UZR is different in that Article than if you looked at it now&#8230;&#8230;but Ellsbury is still rated poorly in 09, so my point still stands.</p>
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		<title>By: Vinny B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinny B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 00:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Des, read this:

http://www.nesn.com/2009/12/jacoby-ellsbury-proves-defensive-statistics-are-essentially-meaningless.html

&quot;Yet according to FanGraphs, Ellsbury&#039;s ultimate zone rating was -18.6 in 2009 -- good for dead last among center fielders. Only Toronto&#039;s Vernon Wells had nearly as low a rating (-18.2), and only two other players (Colorado&#039;s Dexter Fowler and the Cubs&#039; Kosuke Fukudome) were in the negative double-digits.

But for anyone who wants to live and die by the defensive statistics, then what is there to say about Ellsbury&#039;s 2008 statistics? In 2008, Ellsbury&#039;s UZR was a cool 16.5. Yes, on the other side of zero.&quot;

This shows that you cannot trust this statistic to judge a player that hasn&#039;t had much playing time. Ellsbury went from one of the best, to one of the worst, in one year according to UZR! And just two years after he was rated one of the worst CF&#039;s, he was rated the BEST in the league in 2011!!!

They are just extremely volatile - That&#039;s why I don&#039;t trust it ranking Murphy so high - Who knows, maybe if he played a full season there, he might get rated the worst 1B....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Des, read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nesn.com/2009/12/jacoby-ellsbury-proves-defensive-statistics-are-essentially-meaningless.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nesn.com/2009/12/jacoby-ellsbury-proves-defensive-statistics-are-essentially-meaningless.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Yet according to FanGraphs, Ellsbury&#8217;s ultimate zone rating was -18.6 in 2009 &#8212; good for dead last among center fielders. Only Toronto&#8217;s Vernon Wells had nearly as low a rating (-18.2), and only two other players (Colorado&#8217;s Dexter Fowler and the Cubs&#8217; Kosuke Fukudome) were in the negative double-digits.</p>
<p>But for anyone who wants to live and die by the defensive statistics, then what is there to say about Ellsbury&#8217;s 2008 statistics? In 2008, Ellsbury&#8217;s UZR was a cool 16.5. Yes, on the other side of zero.&#8221;</p>
<p>This shows that you cannot trust this statistic to judge a player that hasn&#8217;t had much playing time. Ellsbury went from one of the best, to one of the worst, in one year according to UZR! And just two years after he was rated one of the worst CF&#8217;s, he was rated the BEST in the league in 2011!!!</p>
<p>They are just extremely volatile &#8211; That&#8217;s why I don&#8217;t trust it ranking Murphy so high &#8211; Who knows, maybe if he played a full season there, he might get rated the worst 1B&#8230;.</p>
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