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2011
Mets Want Boatload For Wright, Interested In Marquis, Will Tender Pagan and Pelfrey,
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Pagan and Pelfrey Will Be Tendered: According to Jon Heyman of SI.com, the Mets will tender contracts to both Angel Pagan and Mike Pelfrey. The two contracts are expected to total somewhere in the $10 million range for 2012. It was reported last week that the Mets planned to tender Pagan and yesterday Scott Boras stated that he believed Pelfrey would be tendered.
It was more of a given that Pelfrey would be tendered than Pagan out of lack of in-house starting pitching, but it appears that the Mets will not be able to find a decent centerfielder that is cheaper than what they will likely pay Pagan at arbitration.
When asked about Pagan, Sandy Alderson said:
“I think Angel gave us quite a bit that maybe was underappreciated. Maybe the defense was not up to his expectation or even ours. But he gave us some speed on the bases. He filled in, I think, reasonably well for Jose when he was out, filled in at the top of the lineup. So I think there were some positive things there that maybe were overlooked by some people. If we have Angel in center field to begin next season, I think we’ll be happy with that.”
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Alderson Has High Asking Price For Wright: Also according to Heyman, Sandy Alderson has a very high asking price for David Wright. Alderson said he would only deal the all-star third baseman “if someone blows us away”. Wright has an option for 2013 that is only valid for the Mets, so getting such a large deal that Alderson is seeking for a rental player is unlikely.
Mets Interested In Jason Marquis: According to Ken Davidoff of Newsday, the Mets have interest in Jason Marquis to replace Chris Capuano in the rotation. It was reported earlier this week that the Mets had “crossed Capuano off their list” because he was seeking a multi-year deal.
The 33-year old Staten Island native grew up a Mets fan and has shown interest in playing in Flushing. His most recent display of interest came in the 2009 offseason when he ultimately signed with the Nationals for 2-years and $15 million. After missing most of 2010 and struggling with the Diamondbacks at the end of this past season, Marquis would likely come a a cheap, incentive-laden contract.
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I cant stand Marquis, he sucks. Why are we even looking at him? What about Mark Buehrle? I thought these guys were talent experts?
jason marquis is the perfect and typical acquisition for mets management: he had an ok won-loss record which was enough for mets mgmt to overlook his whip which is not too good and his age means diminished skills and no reason to expect him to do either as well as he did last year (how many runs will he have to work with in 2012 without reyes in the lineup?). no end in sight to the mediocrity until the COUPONS sell the team. and don’t rejoice too much over the ample supply of arms and bats coming up through the system cause if the COUPONS are still here these prospects won’t be spending too many years in the orange and blue once they are able to command salaries commensurate with their skills. don’t know if there will ever be joy in mudville again.
I know the Wilpons have many flaws, but being cheap is not among them. The problems we have now is because they spent too freely.
Are you sure that is the problem?? you sure is not the lawsuit they got hanging over their heads for trying to be sneky businessmen?? spend freely, all of that is second guessing, ppl here complaing about beltran being injured and overpaid, yet, NOONE says anything about santana and he hasn’t done anything but have 1 good season for the mets, same as pedro in his 4 years… spend freely, give me a break, is more of bad luck than anything.. santana is relative young and he got hurt, but pedro was 2 years older then is “ohh, we don’t know what we were getting into”.. all of this second guessers have ruined this site..
Ya, I’m pretty sure spending freely without thought to the long term consequences put us here, as you demonstrated. The Madoff situation would have hurt, but not as badly.
so, explain to me, how jason bay was a bust but santana isn’t..? and i love johan santana, but let’s not use double standard here, we needed santana, but he also needed to get paid, so we got him at 7 years, he’s only pitched 1 year and a half out of 3, yet, NOONE complains about his contract who’s the highest in the roster.. is minaya’s fault he got hurt? or beltran? and both got hurt at age 31, which is relativeltely young, noone could’ve predicted that..
Very simply put- when Santana has pitched, he has mostly been the top of the rotation guy the Mets traded for in 2007. He was also traded for absolutely nothing. Bay has been anything but the power hitting corner outfielder they signed at a premium.
Let’s be honest, Injuries cost us seasons 2006-2010 and even 2011 could be thrown into there…with a healthy Santana, Wright and Ike, maybe Sandy wouldn’t have “punted” at the All Star Break.
Injuries lead to collapses, which lead to move aggressiveness in FA market, which lead to weakaning the
and relying on high priced, old free agents lead to more injuries.
Brian, i am not comparing the 2. my point is, ppl here criticize the minaya’s years saying he spent freely and he failed to win anything, yet never give him the benefit of the doubt, yes he made huge dumb mistakes in oliver,m castillo and bay, but them weren’t the main reason why the mets didn’t make the playoffs, the players failed to produce in 2007 and 2008, and in 2009 we had a barrage of injuries NOONE could’ve had predicted.. from reyes, delgado, beltran, santana, putz etc.. i mean, come on, ppl only tend to focus on the bad signing omar did, but is not his fault santana went down now is it? yet santana makes 23 million per year, you think he’s going over to the wilpons and say, let’s restructure my contract since i haven’t pitched in more than a year? nope, yet noone is saying anything about santana making too much money AND BEING HURT.. yet, that is all we hear about reyes.
Santana has performed. Was a 7 year deal a bad idea? Perhaps. But that was the price to get the most dominant pitcher at the time when the Mets believed they were contenders.
Should Minaya have accounted for elbow problems? Absolutely. He already had some issues there.
Bay is a right handed pull hitter with power in a park designed to pretty much nullify that kind of hitter.
That said, all you’ve done is demonstrate how free spending has hurt the Mets in the long run.
Hey, he hits well!
Here’s out of the box thinking,
The Braves are dangling Jair Jurrgens out there. The Mets have 2 potentially good 2B prospects in Havens & Valdespin. I would offer Wright & Valdespin to the Braves and if they accepted that would free up money to sign Reyes and then I would non-tender Pelfrey to free up cash for Jurrgens who is arbitration eligible.
Of course this is all contingent on the Braves saying yes. In essence it would be Wright & Valdespin in order to keep Reyes…and Jurrgens. And with a healthy Murphy at 3B and Ike at 1B I feel this team starts to give the Mets a better chance to compete.
Who knows? Maybe the Braves can turn around and use Valdespin in a trade to get a pitching prospect of their own?
Gun to my head if I had to say yes now while Murphy’s status is unsure I’d say yes because the next thing I’d have to do is look for a good defensive 3B backup for Murphy and if need be Turner.
That what I would try and do in an attempt to stay competitive and show the fans we are trying to stay competitive with the budget we have. While keeping in mind that if the fans know the team is trying to win regardless of their financial status they will be buying tickets now.
And the Mets are offering up plans now right? What is Alderson doing to motivate the fan? He’s doing nothing, if anything he’s losing fans!!!
Back to the trade proposal
If the Braves said no to me then I would offer that Wright/Valdespin combo to another team.
And if the Braves said “give us Havens instead and you got a deal” I’d say yes.
And if the Braves said “give us Tejada with Wright and as long that I know i can keep Reyes if I make this deal than that puts the Mets back in a 2B quandary again. Do you want to pair Reyes with Murphy? If I was running the show that would be out of the question. Tejada is not the talent Reyes is but he’s smarter than both Reyes & Murphy ad that does matter. So if the Braves threw that curve at me i’m not sure i would do that according to what I think is best to keep this team relevant in the NL east/wild card.
Oh, and while all this is going on we have people hired to overlook the minors don’t we? So I’m not stopping them from doing their job while I try to keep the big team competitive and to keep fans energized and wanting to buy tickets.
Anyway, this is just one idea and if you’re the Braves would you even consider it if I called you with this idea?
One would think they’d do Wright for Jair straight up. I would think Havens and Wright for Jair is borderline ridiculous. I’d be asking for Minor or Teheran for Wright, not Jair.
What a great analysis but would the Mets want Wright on the Braves in the same division, but boy do the Braves need him.
You’re not looking at it from a Braves perspective. The have Uggla at 2B long term and Chipper at 3B for at least the one year they’d have Wright for. This trade makes zero sense to them. And Chipper notwithstanding, Wright and one prospect isn’t netting a pitcher like Jurrjens, anyway.
Disagree on Chipper. At 40 years old he is only good for about 60-80 games, can’t run an d his HR production is way off. I think they would salivate for Wright at 3rd. Juergens is an all star pitcher and I wouldn’t accept anything less. Hanson may be an alternative or one of their closers.
Believe me, I’d make that deal from a Mets persepctive yesterday. But the Braves have no reason to make that trade.
i absolutely did look at it from the Braves perspective. I don’t make trade proposal without thinking about how the other team may look at it. The Braves have a plethera of pitching coming up and that’s why Jurrgens is available. They can feel that even though they are parting with Jurrgens in their division they still have enough pitching and now they’re offense just got better. And I said maybe they can use the prospect we sent them to make another trade.
Sure, they’re shopping Jurrjems, but why in the world would they move him for Wright and Valdespin? That’s what I mean by not looking at it from their angle. Both their positions are blocked. What would they do with Uggla and Chipper?
Doesn’t Valdespin play both 2B and SS?
Yes, in the “his body occupies the space” sense. He’s not that good at either spot because of a lead glove.
Pastornicky projects to be a good hitter with plus defense and plus speed, the latter two being more important for a SS. Valdespin has a higher ceiling offensively but far more questions and his defense eats corn the long way. I don’t know that the Braves would be upgrading very much.
while other teams try to get the good players first like CJ wilson, Buerhle, try to trade for good pitchers etc, the mets go straight for the jugular and show interest in…. jason marquis… LOL.. this is just getting comical here…. hell, capuano is already out of their price range and noone knows how much he’ll be asking for… i tell you, 3 gm’s, and they can’t even come up with a trade to get someone here to help this team… jason marquis is the best these 3 saber goons can come up with!? amazing
the core salutes you…lol
Lol, will, the CORE salutes you as well….
Marquis blows, unless they are planning to use him as a pinch hitter. The guy is hurt A LOT. Disappointed in the Pagan tender. I cannot stand dumbass players.
It’s probably better to tender a contract, then look to move him vs. just non-tendering him and then being up the creek without any option if the Mets can not find a replacement. Probably the same in Pelfrey’s case as well, considering they are looking at the Marquis of the world… yuck.
As for Pelfrey, I think the FO is hoping he can have a good first half. He has had them before. Then they get something for him at the deadline. With Wheeler and Harvey and maybe Familia coming in the next few years, I can see this as a scenario. Harvey might replace him in the second half.
Jason Marquis and Joe Nathan are amongst the few FA that would actually like to play for the Mets. The Mets right now obviously aren’t exactly a hot, in demand landing place for a FA.
New Yorker or not, NO thanks on Marquis. We already have enough .500 pitchers. As much as I like Murphy as a hitter, that is ALL he is. With NOW two bad knees and middle of the infield will not work. I would rather trade him than Wright.
2, LMAO.. my feelings exactly
Murphy’s injury history is worse than Reyes by far.
jdon, i once said that and what some people here came up was “those were fluke injuries, is not like reyes who got hurt running the bases”.. i was shocked those ppl said that, but, at least reyes was trying to get on base, murphy’s injuies have been for lack of baseball knowledge… bad position last year, horrible running the bases.. 2 for 2 the last 2 years, but no, he’s not injury prone in those idiots mind..
and Murh’s injuries have been pretty dire.
I agree with you. The Mets obviously need some SP insurance just in case Johan can’t take the ball every 5 days. However, for a team so pressed for $$$, paying a 6SP- Marquis even a guaranteed 5MM is kind of pricey. They might as well go with Schwinden as their 6SP.
have agreed NOT to offer arb to Type A FA Saito, ensuring that he can be signed without loss of draft pick. by ken rosenthal..
this is good news for the mets… somehow i think it is…
Acc, to Sherman, Sandy has been assured by the comm. office, that the draft compensation for Reyes, a true Type A FA will not change with the new CBA.
SAch,
If is another team and not the marlins then sandy will get his much desire draft pick for reyes, if is the marlins then it’ll be a second rounder, also, if the marlins sign 2 type A free agents, sandy will get a 3rd rounder.. based on mets record and the other team’s record, mets got a higher draft pick therefore will be place last in terms of draft pick compare to the other team.. example, if is madson and reyes, phillies get second rounder, mets get 3rd rounder because phillies endded up with better record..
I know that. I posted that the other day in some comment.
I agree with Joel Sherman. I don’t see Sandy splurging for Cordero or even Nathan or Capps as Mets closer next season. But instead trying to bring in 2 more modestly priced Type B or unranked FA at a combined 9MM for next season that can serve as co-closer, 8th inn. set-up men until one of them grabs the closer job. Some names that come to mind are Chad Qualls who earned 2.55 MM last season, Frank Francisco who earned 4MM last season and Jon Rauch who made 3.75MM last season.
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“If we have Angel in center field to begin next season, I think we’ll be happy with that”
Anybody else wanted to throw up after reading that?
As far as Marquis goes, no thank you. I had a slight interest in him back when he was leaving the Cubs but now? Not so much.
Acc. to Sherman, a person with strong Wall Street ties tells him the Wilpons’ stategy of selling 20MM limited partnership units in the Mets at 3% interest with a possible loan repayment in 6 yrs. already has several commitments.
Acc. to Rubin, Tim Teufel fas been fired as mgr. of the Leones del Caracas team in the VWL.
I’d heard that was coming. In fact, it may have been from you.
Acc. to Heyman, the Brewers have added Jimmy Rollins to their list of potential SS and interest is picking up in Frankie Rodriguez.
Acc. to Danny Knobler, the Tigers remain a longshot for Jose Reyes. Owner Mike Ilitch would have to step in and significantly up the payroll budget.
According to Tiger GM Dave Dombrosky in a interview last night with MLB TV, they are NOT going after Reyes.
Acc. to Heyman and his agent Meister, Tim’s agent says Wakefield belongs in the NL. 13 out of 15 knuckleballers that have switched leagues since 1937 have lowered their ERA by an average of 1.25 runs.
According to just about everyone in the entire world and the space station, Heyman is never right.
David Wright has been using the Mets twitter account this afternoon answering some questions from fans. Are the Mets that desperate to sell tickets.
That’s not really new. MLB has had players and celebrities “control” official twitter accounts or a while. Stephen Colbert got the MLB account when he won a bet.
No different than people stopping by the Fan Cave.
Ac. to Rubin, the Mets have signed Vinny Rottino and Valentino Pascucci to minor league deals.