You have said many times these guys are nothing more than Bench Fodder!
They are never going to amount to real MLB players according to you!

So if you feel that way then using them for what YOU CLAIM is the only thing they are good for can’t ruin them!

Can F-Mart be ruined by starting in the MLB next year as our CF?
If so hasn’t he been ruined years ago then?

Tell us what is more likely to RUIN Tejada and stunt his development? Starting him at 2B or SS or replacing him with Furcal?

Duda is not ready either in your eyes that we need to get CoCo Crisp?
I guess Duda should go back down to the Minors until he is ready?

All I see you doing here is buying opther people’s crap and avoiding the BUILD FROM WITHIN approach you claim and Defend sandy as doing and when someone else suggest it’s you say it is dumb and BAD!

I know you don’t read my posts but you should actually try reading yours and see just how often you flip on what you think depending on who suggests it!

You claim you have a long term view then focus on 2012 only!
You say you want to build from within then when kids show any signs of success you move to quicky replace them with cheap crap!

And in the meantime you slam and would glady get rid of anyone with a .289 or above BA in favor of signing a 2 Million dollar scrub!

And I’m left wondering what happened to your DEEP STATISTICAL ANALYSIS that is supposed to find those cheap GEMS you talked about all this time!

Where are THEY?
Is CoCo Crisp the guy your analysis spit out and the undervalued gem?
Is Furcal?

Your only plan is to slash payroll so you can list 10 names of crap players from other teams that gave up on them and then hoping one plays a decent game enough to call him a successful signing and beat your chest about how smart you are for naming him!

You have no plan just a Defense of a GM who has no plan either just guys who are good at lying and trying to pass it off as such!
The only Plan Sandy has showed so far is to not spend more than 2 mil on any player!
Sell off any player who is good.
And just collect draft picks Jessup has no intentions of using!

Funny I noted Sandy made sure to call the league to make sure he was going to get his picks for reyes!
What does that tell you about what really is the most important thing to Sandy regarding Reyes?

Also, I like the idea of Varitek as the backup, but only on a very incentive laden deal. He hasn’t hit more than .232 in the past 4 seasons and hasn’t managed 100 games played in 3. But he is unmatched among catchers today for his game management skills and leadership behind the plate (Yadier Molina being a close 2nd I would say) and those skills are in demand among the Mets pitchers. And if he can help make Josh Thole a better catcher so much the better. But clearly, Tek is strictly a backup nowadays at age 39 and shouldn’t catch more than twice a week any more.

Something you used to say was a FAILURE but not support!

And NEITHER of you have replied to the question I asked…
HOW does bringing a kid up to the MLB HURT his development?

He has BETTER players, Coaches to learn from…
Will face BETTER Players and Pitching!
Will learn how to DEAL WITH and ACLIMATE to the big leagues
and gain experience he isn’t going to get in Buffalo!

YOU GUYS SAY THEY SUCK!
SO what exactly do you think we are going to hurt by promoting them?

Florida didn’t seem to have a problem promiting from the Minors when they had two sell offs!

You guys are only interested in getting guys on BA’s list and haveing the best AAA team but NEVER seem interested in PROMOTING them!

You say you want to build from WITHIN yet when it is suggested to DO JUST THAT you guys say you can’t!

I think I can speak for a lot of posters here and say we all wish your Slashers would make up you god damned mind!

You say don’t spend then only want to build by spending!
You say build from within but say you can;’t promote kids in AAA

Which side of the mouth talking should we be listening to here and how do we know which side is talking when you guys flip then flop?

A) If he’s not good enough to be in the big leagues but is put on a big league roster he will start to feel and act like a failure

B) You’re not in the major leagues to learn, coaches and managers aren’t in the big leagues to teach players, you’re in the major leagues because you have surpassed your goals for minor league development. If you skip lessons of how to be a big leaguer and just throw them into the mix, they will fail.

You’re argument is totally idiotic. Why even have the minor leagues? Why not just throw everybody in the majors?

If you HONESTLY think that a player who hasn’t proven he’s ready for the big leagues will benefit MORE from being a NY Met than a Buffalo Bison than you are more crazy than I thought you were.

“Florida didn’t seem to have a problem promiting from the Minors when they had two sell offs!”

In 1998 the year after the Marlins World Series win their starting lineup consisted of

Gregg Zaun 27 years old 4th year in the bigs
Derek Lee, 22, 2nd year in the bigs
Craig Counsell, 27 career minor leaguer til then
Edgar Renteria, 21, 3rd year in the bigs
Todd Zeile, 32
Cliff Floyd 25, 6th year in the bigs
Todd Dunwoody, 23 played 19 games in 1997
Mark Kotsay, 22

then they had Livan Hernandez 2nd year, Brian Meadows, Jesus Sanchez, Andy Larkin, Rafael Medina

So if your goal is for the Mets to have Todd Dunwoody, Jesus Sanchez and Andy Larkin… sure just call up anybody! Who cares if you go 54-108 right?

“You guys are only interested in getting guys on BA’s list and haveing the best AAA team but NEVER seem interested in PROMOTING them!”

No I’m interested in promoting guys when they can help the big league club, not because the mets need to fill a uniform

By the way Metsie your last post had 9 ! in it.

Young? He was actually paid appropriately for what he did. Only made 4 games, but only got paid $1mill. Prorate that, and it would be $8mill over 32 starts.

And you would be doing good to get those numbers over a full season for that price.

Harris: 126 GM 240 AB, 11 2B, 2 HR, 23 RBI, .246/.351/.317 Slash Line 5 SB, 4 CS

Chavez: 83 GM, 256 AB, 11 2B, 5 HR, 27 RBI, .301/.323/.426 Slash Line, 10 SB, 4 CS

Both are 33 years old. The only thing Harris has over Chavez is the OBP. Otherwise, Endy was a better basestealer, produced just as many runs as Harris (59 for Endy, 57 for Harris), and makes better contact (30 K’s in 256 AB vs. 62 in 240 for Harris). The only thing Harris can do that Chavez hasn’t is play the IF.

I’m not saying bringing Chavez back will make or break the Mets in 2012. It won’t. He’s simply a backup. Albeit a potentially useful backup. Having said that, Chavez can be useful off the bench with his ability to make contact, bunt, and run as well as be a really good backup in CF to Pagan or Duda in RF. No, he doesn’t have much power and he is 3 years older since he left the Mets, but the Mets could do worse.

Most of us who point out Young’s signing as a bad one is not pointing it out because we have a problem with the fact that he got hurt but with the fact that guys like Jessup who use injury as an excuse to disparage Reyes, Castillo, Omar, Santana and even Beltran are the ones who seem to have no problem with Young and his injury problems!

It’s hypocritical to suggest one guy should not be signed because he missed 30 games but resign a guy who missed 158 games as a good pickup!

Either your injury adverse or your not!

This is why Young becomes a topic because they identify INJURY as a thing to avoid except in cases where they make a push to re-sign a guy who has far worse injury history!

No sense in slapping lipstick on an already stuck pig!
Lets play kids who are getting older, or not progressing at Buffalo and play them to save money. If we lose a few more games so be it Jessup gets better pick selection next draft!

Maybe some of those guys create some value while here just as Santana and Bay might!
Then you got some trade chips to go and get the player we do not have in the minors to fill holes the next 2 or 3 years (2013 and 2014)

Lets try and make the kids we have valuable by making them MLB players. They can’t do any worse than some 1 million dollar piece of someone else’s crap and MLB service players are worth more in trade than MiL scrubs!

Lets try to CREATE value for what he have and own not what we can sign on the cheap and will not own once the season is over!
Then maybe we can trade for the talent we need or maybe even find what we thought was no good turns out to be an answer to one of our long term problems!

If we want to eventually build from within then no time like the present!
Why put off till tomorrow what we can do today!

And nobody despises Young. People just didn’t like the idea of counting on someone with his injury history.

and by the way, is he even going to be ready to start the season?

Yeah we noticed!

Point is you have been supporting SANDY’s plan saying it is the right one and now you are trying to say his plan is different than yours?

Is that how you expect to weasel out of this mess you posted yourself into?

Doug and I posted a LONG TERM PLAN, what that seems to NOT coincide with what Sandy seems to be doing.

But your plan seems to fit RIGHT TIGHT into what Sandy is doing!
Since you seem to be the biggest Sandy supporter here and the most active excuse and defender of his move, coupled with the similarities of what he is doing with what you propose we can only conclude that what you propose is what you WANT to defend Sandy to do!

Which just gopes to show what I said about your plan exposes everything about the crap you been trying to paint Sandy’s moves as being…
Not a LONG TERM plan, Not a BUILD FROM WITHIN plan…
Just a pack off everyopne who makes over a certain amount, buy crap to replace them and collect picks so you can root for the only team you REALLY are interested in building the Buffalo Bisons!

And when those kids are ready you will send them off or refuse to play them too in favor of buying more cheap crap!

Just like you are proposing to do with Tejada and Murphy now!