Comments on: Are Scott Boras’ Clients Worth The Money?

By: Ron Davis

Ron Davis — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:24:51 +0000

this is not a fight just a discussion. How does one measure Success or failure i hate A-Rod but forget that he won a world series that is the Yankees goal but when Beltran signed the Mets were terrible he and Pedro help build the 2006 team to make the playoffs. So how does one measure success. Zito also a client of Boras has a world championship under his belt . So i ask kindly what is success or failure. Each of his clients should kiss his backside especially Oliver Perez who got 36 million for doing nothing for his money.

By: Ron Davis

Ron Davis — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:19:04 +0000

Carlos can’t say he did not make a fortune with Boras. as bad of a person that Scott is . Carlos could of ditched him before he could of said hey your fired i am not signing for 7 years at 119.5 with the Mets As a Mets fan we know not one player can put you over the top . Regardless who your agent is or was . It takes 15-20 players on your roster to help put you over the top some teams it takes all 25 like St Louis. Puljois can’t win anything all by himself no matter how great he is.

By: Donal

Donal — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:09:38 +0000

Actually, the question is ife the teams that sign the clients more or less likely to succeed.

By: Ron Davis

Ron Davis — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:08:21 +0000

I know what your saying and not totally disagring but if a owner is stupid enough to agree then he Boras is doing his job . I said i do not like Boras and some of his tatitcs are over the top but do you think he is pointing a gun at anybodys head. its up to the owner to say get lossed if 30 owners tell him where to go then what can he do. You can listen then say that is too rich for our blood and if you can find a taker so be it.

By: cpins

cpins — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 18:05:18 +0000

The real question is are Boras clients more or less likely to “succeed” compared to other agents $30m+ players. Is it just that all big dollar contracts are inherently risky or is there actually something about Boras clients that don’t apply to other agents.

By: TooGooden16

TooGooden16 — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:53:13 +0000

A contract for $30 Million in 1992 has a totally different value than a $30 Million contract in 2011, so the basis of your evaluation of those contracts must change accordingly. If you are comparing a 1992 contract to todays and calling it a good deal, remember in 1992 that was a lot more money and not many contracts of that amount were given out, so that might be equivalent to a $70 Million contract today. Now re-evaluate.

By: Chria

Chria — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:50:35 +0000

A 30 million dollar player in 1992 is very different from a 30 million dollar player in 2011. A 30 mil player in 1992 is a superstar; a 30 mil player now is a solidly above average player. It’s apples and oranges.

I tend to think the bad contracts reflect more on poor GMs than on Boras being a magician – he’s just a smart guy who works to get his guys the biggest money deals (although not necessarily in the best position for them to succeed). The worst of the 100mil deals are obviously Brown and Zito, but he didn’t put a gun to the Yankees or Giants head and make them give crazy money to declining pitchers.

By: Ron Davis

Ron Davis — Tue, 08 Nov 2011 17:48:51 +0000

I hate the idea of defending Boras but once a player is signed its the players job to try to live up to the contract not Boras all he can do is negotiate the contracts and put them in the best light. alot of luck must go into it. But Boras is a jerk but hey if i was a talented player i would use him he is among the best at what he does.

By: hdawg

hdawg — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 18:40:27 +0000

werth has skills, just not 126 million$ of it

By: Metstheory22

Metstheory22 — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 14:40:16 +0000

That is why I trade Pelfrey if possible. Boras will make him look like the second coming of Tom Seaver when he should be Ollie Perez or Craig Swan. And no, I am NOT comparing him to Seaver. Pelfrey is not worth the money Boras will ask the Mets for when he becomes a free agent, 200 innnings or not. I do not think Anderson WILL resign him at Boras money though.

By: any

any — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:56:25 +0000

I think it was a myth that Boras got much bigger deals than other agents would for the same players.

Boras just (at least for a while) had the top players. And those are the FAs that get huge contracts. And of course, have the best chance to bust big time with that type of deal.

GMs really aren’t so stupid that they don’t already know everything about a player, so that his presentations suddenly make them think a guy is way better than he really it.

now negotiating skills (getting Gms to pay more than they “know” a guy is worth) is a different story!

By: 86mets

86mets — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 04:12:45 +0000

Oh yeah, I feel really bad for Boras losing clients! First A-Rod, now Carlos Beltran ditching him. Poor man, how will he EVER feed his family! LOL I think I could live comfortably for years (if not the rest of my life) just on the commission he got off A-Rod’s $250 million deal with the Rangers. But say this for the man, if you’re a client with skills, he WILL make you filthy rich (along with himself of course). Even if you don’t have skills he’ll make you filthy rich (see Werth, Jayson and Zito, Barry).

By: Metsie

Metsie — Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:43:08 +0000

He’s not getting the clients he used to get before and A-Rod had a bit to do with that!

First losing out on us to go to Texas and then the whole opt out fiasco where he finally negotiated the deal without Boras to get it done because Boras was playing games at the time!

The best way to deal with Boras is make your offer and tell him take it or leave it cause it expires in 15 Minutes!
Or ask him what the number is to sign right now or your not interested.

Then he can’t use it as a negotiating number against someone else.