Comments on: Kicking The Tires On Roy Oswalt and Brad Lidge

By: tlagee

tlagee — Thu, 27 Oct 2011 01:35:48 +0000

There’s one sure way to know for sure whether Reyes makes the HOF. Build a time machine and set it for 2025 and look it up. Then get back to us.

Reyes is arguably the most exciting offensive player in the majors right now. He has the ability to put the Mets on his back and carry the team.

But one of the major reasons most are picked for the Hall is: “did they help their team win the world series?”.

In my opinion, Phil Rizzuto does not belong in the Hall – except for one big reason – he played in a lot of world series.

Jeter and Rivera are shoe-ins. They deserve to be AND they played a ton of World Series games.

The way the number one market Mets stand right now – post Madoff – they will not be sniffing the playoffs for at least a couple of years. So the easy money on Reyes and the HOF is he would need to go to a contender if he hopes to get in (that and 3000 hits).

By: Donal

Donal — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:18:52 +0000

Where did I say Reyes sucks and isn’t worth signing?

I want to see the quote.

By: jessep

jessep — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:50:45 +0000

maybe he’s got special vitamins bro

By: jdon

jdon — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:29:01 +0000

Nothing in that post suggest a bashing of Reyes. Read it again.

By: Joe Diaz

Joe Diaz — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:34:20 +0000

My bad,I thought you were saying Chipper is not a lock.Miggy is on his way,no doubt.IF he stays healthy of course.

By: Joe Diaz

Joe Diaz — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:32:39 +0000

C’mon X-Man you know Chips a lock,he’s a 1st ballot HOFer.One of the greatest switch hitters of all time.

By: Joe Diaz

Joe Diaz — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:18:38 +0000

I saw the he’s not on a hall of fame pace,I’ve seen he’s not worth signing but I never ever saw a single Met fan say Reyes sucks.I’m caught up too.

By: Joe Diaz

Joe Diaz — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:14:44 +0000

Butch Huskey was a spring training hall of famer.

By: Joe Diaz

Joe Diaz — Wed, 26 Oct 2011 04:12:07 +0000

The whole team choked but somehow only Wright is to be blamed.No mention that the pitching staff blew leads just about every night to sub par teams like the Nats and Marlins but Wright only homered in the 1st inning so you can’t count those you can only go by the pop up in the 8th inning after Maine,Glavine or Perez gave up 4-5 run leads.No mention of Delgado and Reyes’ failures.Just Wright’s.At least be fair about it,Reyes did nothing,zippo in both September collapses but that’s somehow forgotten because he had a big time year in 2011.Only on MMO can you get such objectivity.

By: XtreemIcon

XtreemIcon — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:54:40 +0000

He’s still too young to call it a lock, but gun to my head, nothing but a career ending injury in the next year or two could derail Miggy Cab’s HOF career. And Tim Raines is the most underrated player in baseball history. It’s a crime he’s not in already.

By: francis

francis — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:48:46 +0000

Chipper Jones is a HOF lock.

By: francis

francis — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 23:47:34 +0000

Sign Oswalt. We need to continue the storied Mets tradition of aging, used-to-be-great pitchers residing on the 60 day-DL.

By: Edgar

Edgar — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:27:11 +0000

Are you serious? Sadly, I think you actually are. You continue to call Jessep out for everything YOU do yourself. He NEVER bashed him, NEVER,by saying he’s not on pace to be in the HOF but that doesn’t fit into your twisting of what he says everyday.

You do the same exact thing about Wright, but that’s ok. You are the king of “do as I say, not as I do”.

By: Edgar

Edgar — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:14:37 +0000

Don’t say EVERYONE because you’re not speaking for everyone with your OPINION.

You are the epitome of hypocrisy…..crying your eyes out because someone factually stated that Reyes is not on pace for the HOF is NOT bashing him, now matter how many ways you try and twist what was said.

By: Edgar

Edgar — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:12:47 +0000

WOW you have quite the vivid imagination and are really starting garbage that Joe D has specifically asked to cease. NOT ONE PERSON BASHED JOSE, not one in this thread.

Saying and back up with the requirements that he’s not on pace for HOF now is NOT BASHING the guy.

I’ve never read such garbage from people that want to argue just for the sake of arguing.

By: Who

Who — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:02:40 +0000

Oh right…forgot to add this:

The Mets borrowed 25 million from MLB: http://www.metstoday.com/6194/2011-spring-training/mets-borrowed-25-million-from-mlb/

The Mets took loans for SNY: http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozanian/2011/02/01/sny-debt-will-impact-sale-of-new-york-mets/

The Mets took loans for Citi Field: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/de_perate_mets_in_new_relief_pitch_3Sp88YVWEvp3QZH8q8HwtO

By: Who

Who — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:57:19 +0000

The question is, do players get healthier as they get older? Unless they are taking steroids like Barry Bonds or Roger Clemens, no they do not. There’s something called an aging curve that the majority of athletes follow. Jose will most likely only get hurt more as he gets older since he’s, you know, a human being.

By: Who

Who — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:54:29 +0000

They were 11-16 in April, though.

This is me waving hi to you from the real world, where April, May, June, July, August and September all count as part of the baseball season.

By: Who

Who — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:51:45 +0000

To dispute your claims:

1. If I think everybody in Mets uni sucks, why do I want to re-sign Jose for 6 years, 120 million like I said just above?
2. I don’t go see them play? And you know this how? I went to five games last year and I make it a point to go that amount of games every year. No, I don’t have season tickets but frankly, times are tough monetarily. I go as often as my means allow.
3. You want me to prove the Wilpons finances? Okay:

Here’s a link to an article saying that the most the Wilpons will have to pay back is 386M: http://articles.nydailynews.com/2011-09-28/sports/30240146_1_madoff-estate-sterling-equities-saul-katz

Here’s a link saying that they lost 70 million in 2011: http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2011/09/mets-win-madoff-battle-but-might-lose-jose-reyes.html

Here’s a link saying that they lost 50 million in 2010: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/25/sports/baseball/25mets.html?_r=1&ref=sports

Not to mention that the economy is terrible and their business, the real estate market, is in a gigantic recession. But hey…what do I know, right? It’s not like you can’t figure this stuff out by reading a newspaper or something. Oh wait…you can? Oh, okay.

And once again, I go to plenty of games a year. Enjoy trying to disprove the facts that I provided you.

By: Who

Who — Tue, 25 Oct 2011 21:42:49 +0000

Metsie…you missed where Donal said:

“A guy with leg problems whose game is based on speed just has to perform at All Star levels for the next 12 years?”

You’re really one to talk. How about some reading comprehension, bud?